This isn't hard to believe, to be honest. We know that the CIA did bring in Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's sons (ages 7 and 9 at the time) -- from Pakistan to the US -- in order to get him to talk. Considering that he was able to withstand 183 waterboarding sessions in one month -- do you think that the mere fact that the CIA had his sons to "interrogate" them (even assuming their claims about treating the boys with "kid gloves" is true) would really work? But, if you were beating them -- or worse, for a radical Muslim -- raping them -- that would be much more effective.
Also, when you consider that we brought in Israelis to consult on how best to "interrogate" Arab suspects at Abu Ghraib, you can bet that there may well indeed be some pretty nasty things on video. And it may not actually be US soldiers on those tapes who are doing it. But the mainstream media -- while they have no problem railing against the US military -- will never, ever, ever criticize or expose the misdeeds of the Israelis. Just look at the USS Liberty incident. If we will cover up them killing Americans, we will certainly cover up them raping some Arab prisoners.
Soldiers - as history has proven - are capable of murdering babies and raping on a massive scale. American soldiers are not immune to this; once you are able to kill, other inhibitors wear down.
True, but a decent person never gets to the point where they could do some of the really nasty, evil stuff. A decent person could be a little trigger happy (out of fear) and end up shooting people who weren't really a danger to them. But only a psychopath will enjoy doing the really sadistic and vile things that some (not all -- I'd say the majority are basically decent human beings) soldiers do. They like to blame it on the "fog of war" or other things -- but the problem is with them. They actually like being liberated from the normal morality and are basically just serial killers. A good person might keep their mouth shut about what they saw (because of fear, shame, etc.), but they won't participate unless they are literally forced to do so. From there, you'll see a descent on the sliding scale of deviancy -- starting with those who would rape to those who would murder and all the way down to those who would rape and murder a child. Unfortunately, that means that the "best" (in terms of meeting combat objectives) soldiers are the psychopaths. So, those most likely to rise to the top -- just like in politics or business -- tend to be the very ones who are much too dangerous to have that power in the first place.
You're right. The issue is grey, and not black and white. There are soldiers who truly regret their actions and also defy the vile acts of their comrades. I'm just saying that no army - as a whole - throughout history, has been atrocity free. There's people in this thread who truly believe that American soldiers can do no wrong. This isn't supported by a single shred of evidence out there. Soldiers from every empire, society, civilisation have enacted cruelty on those they subjugate, and irrespective of the good apple and bad apples, people have suffered under military rule for aeons. Whether its the European colonialists, the Romans, the Ottoman Turks, the Omayyads, the Mongols, the Han, the Persians, the Russians, the Nazis, etc, all have shown that they're capable of cruelty beyond the average person's scope on the moral plane.
I know a serial molester who was protected by his high ranking marine father. And when the day came for his son to join, we'll psychologically he didn't pass the test, his grade A father pulled some strings and VAAA LAHH!
You know I do think it's disrespectful to not stand for the pledge of allegiance I too am also aware that sick fucks breed in places of power.
You are a loon. Who said soldiers don't rape? Your story is bullshit fed by your hatred of Christians and America. Everyone who disagrees with you or down votes is a pedo. Nutjob!
You're the loon, pretending this problem doesn't exist. Because of dumbarses like you, this issue continues. You want soldiers you can trust to actually protect you? Take the rotten fucks and put em behind bars. But noooooooo cant have that.
Yeeeaaahhh everyone hates America when they call out your soldiers when they act like dirty fuckers. "American Sniper is the best movie ever!!11 sempre fi hooooraahhhhh i play CoD and think i know about soldiers gaiz" - You
Mandi Rei Serra - Authoress on Twitter: "UNFUCKINGACCEPTABLE. This is what America has become? Bitch about Trumps pussy-grabbing all you want, but if you ignore this, you're just as bad due to enabling. Rape is never acceptable. And that of kids to torture their mothers? I hope the rapists dicks get eaten by fire ants.… t.co/fo8TvcQC5r"
For me it sounds more like uninvited imperialists ordering their dogs to invade a country, leave a genocide behind, destroy the preys spirit by raping women and children, build pipelines, rob all valuable resources.. but beside of all the obvious and the subject in this matter, all you can say is this? Can you grasp the fact that war enables monsters to thrive beyond manmade concepts?
BlackDadsScatter ago
Nothing their own family wouldn't have done,see this why is we should have went final solution and flattened the continent and started over
Laskar ago
Here's the article: https://www.mintpressnews.com/classified-evidence-us-soldiers-raped-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/200160/
Female soldiers were taking pictures of this.
This has been going on in Israeli jails for decades: https://www.mintpressnews.com/israel-tortures-palestinian-children-keeps-them-in-outdoor-cages-in-winter-rights-group/212808/ and https://snippits-and-slappits.blogspot.com/2009/06/israeli-ill-treatment-and-torture-of.html
Many Europeans saw the photos and videos which did not make it into the controlled US media.
Fateswebb ago
I was bitching about this literally 15 years ago or so..
Laskar ago
Me too.
Gothamgirl ago
Awful, they should have to pay the consequences like anyone else.
dumb000000 ago
Effective torture for Mohammedin. Once defiled by a kafir, the mother basically has no choice but to honour kill jihadi jr
BlackDadsScatter ago
Every cloud eh?
scarlettm512 ago
This isn't hard to believe, to be honest. We know that the CIA did bring in Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's sons (ages 7 and 9 at the time) -- from Pakistan to the US -- in order to get him to talk. Considering that he was able to withstand 183 waterboarding sessions in one month -- do you think that the mere fact that the CIA had his sons to "interrogate" them (even assuming their claims about treating the boys with "kid gloves" is true) would really work? But, if you were beating them -- or worse, for a radical Muslim -- raping them -- that would be much more effective.
Also, when you consider that we brought in Israelis to consult on how best to "interrogate" Arab suspects at Abu Ghraib, you can bet that there may well indeed be some pretty nasty things on video. And it may not actually be US soldiers on those tapes who are doing it. But the mainstream media -- while they have no problem railing against the US military -- will never, ever, ever criticize or expose the misdeeds of the Israelis. Just look at the USS Liberty incident. If we will cover up them killing Americans, we will certainly cover up them raping some Arab prisoners.
PrideOfOshtekk ago
Soldiers - as history has proven - are capable of murdering babies and raping on a massive scale. American soldiers are not immune to this; once you are able to kill, other inhibitors wear down.
scarlettm512 ago
True, but a decent person never gets to the point where they could do some of the really nasty, evil stuff. A decent person could be a little trigger happy (out of fear) and end up shooting people who weren't really a danger to them. But only a psychopath will enjoy doing the really sadistic and vile things that some (not all -- I'd say the majority are basically decent human beings) soldiers do. They like to blame it on the "fog of war" or other things -- but the problem is with them. They actually like being liberated from the normal morality and are basically just serial killers. A good person might keep their mouth shut about what they saw (because of fear, shame, etc.), but they won't participate unless they are literally forced to do so. From there, you'll see a descent on the sliding scale of deviancy -- starting with those who would rape to those who would murder and all the way down to those who would rape and murder a child. Unfortunately, that means that the "best" (in terms of meeting combat objectives) soldiers are the psychopaths. So, those most likely to rise to the top -- just like in politics or business -- tend to be the very ones who are much too dangerous to have that power in the first place.
PrideOfOshtekk ago
You're right. The issue is grey, and not black and white. There are soldiers who truly regret their actions and also defy the vile acts of their comrades. I'm just saying that no army - as a whole - throughout history, has been atrocity free. There's people in this thread who truly believe that American soldiers can do no wrong. This isn't supported by a single shred of evidence out there. Soldiers from every empire, society, civilisation have enacted cruelty on those they subjugate, and irrespective of the good apple and bad apples, people have suffered under military rule for aeons. Whether its the European colonialists, the Romans, the Ottoman Turks, the Omayyads, the Mongols, the Han, the Persians, the Russians, the Nazis, etc, all have shown that they're capable of cruelty beyond the average person's scope on the moral plane.
Conspiracyqueen ago
I know a serial molester who was protected by his high ranking marine father. And when the day came for his son to join, we'll psychologically he didn't pass the test, his grade A father pulled some strings and VAAA LAHH! You know I do think it's disrespectful to not stand for the pledge of allegiance I too am also aware that sick fucks breed in places of power.
PrideOfOshtekk ago
The same old story isn't it? And people like that get away with it, time and time again.
BlueEyedDevil64 ago
total bullshit
PrideOfOshtekk ago
You're retarded. Inherently so.
"Americans can't rape Jesus stops them!!!!1111" - You
BlueEyedDevil64 ago
crawl back to your hole demon bitch. you are a shill on multiple platforms.
PrideOfOshtekk ago
Is that so? Prove it.
Keep buying the Americans can do no wrong lie.
BlueEyedDevil64 ago
You are a loon. Who said soldiers don't rape? Your story is bullshit fed by your hatred of Christians and America. Everyone who disagrees with you or down votes is a pedo. Nutjob!
PrideOfOshtekk ago
You're the loon, pretending this problem doesn't exist. Because of dumbarses like you, this issue continues. You want soldiers you can trust to actually protect you? Take the rotten fucks and put em behind bars. But noooooooo cant have that.
Yeeeaaahhh everyone hates America when they call out your soldiers when they act like dirty fuckers. "American Sniper is the best movie ever!!11 sempre fi hooooraahhhhh i play CoD and think i know about soldiers gaiz" - You
BlueEyedDevil64 ago
go fuck yourself loser
Poohwhisperer ago
Story from 2014. Guess the cover up is working.
derram ago
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GassyMcGasface ago
Sounds like a Muslim. After all its the Muslim thing to do. Or could be a Kike they are into that shit too.
PrideOfOshtekk ago
Nice try shill.
Look at this guy: never posts in PizzaGate and only posts in trash subs. Fuck off, alright sunshine?
Aasb ago
And you sound like a dumbfuck.
For me it sounds more like uninvited imperialists ordering their dogs to invade a country, leave a genocide behind, destroy the preys spirit by raping women and children, build pipelines, rob all valuable resources.. but beside of all the obvious and the subject in this matter, all you can say is this? Can you grasp the fact that war enables monsters to thrive beyond manmade concepts?
duhiki ago
So are MK Ultra fucknuts.