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shadow332 ago

Thank you for sharing. I think it means so much to put a personal story here so people can look for the signs, in themselves and in their own families. Even look out for such behaviour with neighbor's kids or more distant family.

The question I have for you is this: if I were to recognize something is off, and the more I see, the more I am convinced, what can I do as an "outsider"? Like you said, the trick is that they 1) keep it ihidden and 2) most normal people won't see it at first glance because their minds protect them from it.

Do you have any suggestions?

21yearsofdigging ago

So true. Most have no memory of ritual abuse and so they don't understand when they are subjected to a horror show of harassment. The clue or one clue I guess, is that you need to read up on the alters, what they are. Also, how advanced they have become the last few years. Much of it is done with A.I and simulated horror but the effects are the same. When someone exhibits that comatose reactions to gruesome events or a gleefulness at someone else's pain. Much like sociopaths, SRA victims are trained to become sociopaths, in other words, have NO feelings for anyone or anything. They can't! Also, you can't reason with them. They will lie and defend their position. They may even cry crocodile tears but, if you are sensitive, you will sense it is insincere. IMAGINE WE ARE DEALING WITH ROBOTS. Sadly it isn't their fault but that doesn't mean they won't kill you in a second. The only fear, getting caught but as in the case of many of these people, the law, the police almost always cover for them. that is why the Podestas are so brazen.

shadow332 ago

Yes, this is true. And even if they are put in prison. There is no regret. A lot of phychologists believe, at least for psychopathy, that this lack of empathy like you mentioned, is hard wired in the brain. When they test for reactions to cruelty or instances that would normally evoke and emotional reaction, such as sympathy, there is no or less activity shown in the MRIs. So these people aren't "choosing" to be that way. This means, however, that they cannot be reformed. They are treatable in the sense they can be given medication to lessen their urges, but there is no chance of "fixing" anything through therapy.

A psychopath that kills people basically must stay institutionalized for the rest of their lives because they are a danger to society.

The clue or one clue I guess, is that you need to read up on the alters, what they are. Also, how advanced they have become the last few years. Much of it is done with A.I and simulated horror but the effects are the same

When and if you have the time, would you be able to point me to some sources you find reliable or well-read on the subject? I'd be interested in reading further on that. Thanks a lot!

21yearsofdigging ago

Sure I'll dig around. There re a few examples of victims that have come forward or been somewhat deprogrammed. I have spoken to Fiona Barnett and she is one. Her life however, is a living hell as there is little safety once someone comes out. I also theorize that the Cathy O'Brien's of the world are passe now as the programming is so much more advanced. My ex wife had some tell tale signs such as spinning when Kim had asked her who beat her up or threatened our son. Spinning is where all the wires seem to jump around and you are forced to see say, 5 distinct personalities or alters in say 3 minutes.Kim witnessed this in France where we found them.My ex completely lost control. All alters had different voices and mannerisms.Kim, who was a theater actress, had NEVER seen anything like it. It was beyond anything!

shadow332 ago

Thanks. I'll read up on Fiona Barnett to start. Has your ex been evaluated by professionals at all?

21yearsofdigging ago

Sorry but I am literally laughing out loud!! No No No. These kinda people, these victims are protected. She will never be evaluated unless she is out of her element away from her handlers. Imagine a CIA asset or an assassin, they don't generally go to a regular hospital or mental health institution. If they do, they are quickly whisked away.The infrastructure is just unreal. Unless you have seen this kind of thing, you wouldn't believe it. It really is like a Bourne Identity thing. Yeah, unless you have witnessed it and the sudden rush of ops or Men in Black kind of stuff NO ONE would believe it. maybe why they make movies like Bourne Identity. Regular Joe just thinks it's a movie and that it never happens in real life. I have lived 22 years in this world. If the covert fuckers spend say, 40 million on programming 100 children then out of that group another 10 million on their best assets, one of which may have been my wife then what are they going to do to protect that asset?? Guessing on the numbers but it is all black budget stuff. Where the trillions form the pentagon goes or whatever other secret vault of drug and organ harvesting money.The goal, create the perfect army of slaves that are assassins, whores, newscasters, corporate leaders and for the failures, maybe drug mules and low level hookers and porn stars. Fritz Springmeier has written about this but i prefer a woman who may now be dead, called Svali Speaks. Keep in mind, it is all way more advanced now!!!

21yearsofdigging ago

Also, professional wives and husbands. Goal is get someone next to the power broker or the charismatic leader.At the time, I was starting a production company called Lionsgate Entertainment out of Vancouver Canada. It is treated like a science which I guess is why, when I wanted a divorce in the beginning, she told me, "you can never leave me. I know very powerful people. If you try, you will lose everything and wish you were dead". My partner, John A Hardy, told me, after my children had been taken illegally to Europe, that I should "keep my mouth shut about my kids or I was dead".

shadow332 ago

Wow, I see I am way way behind on this stuff. I've read up on it here and there but only got my interest back when I came across Pizzagate. Where does this programming take place?

ESOTERICshade ago

Best book I know of about creating mind control slaves. It is not long, dry, boring reading either. It is fascinating and Fritz gets straight to the point.

Springmeier & Wheeler The Illuminati Formula Used To Create An Undetectable Mind Control Slave

https://archive.org/details/SpringmeierWheelerTheIlluminatiFormulaUsedToCreateAnUndetectableTotalMindControlledSlave

21yearsofdigging ago

Every big city around the USA and also cities in Europe. However, they love using isolated properties in the country for their training purposes. I guess farms (like I had) are ideal. Shit, My farm was so hidden from the road you couldn't hardly see it. Long driveway, all hidden by a grove of trees