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ESOTERICshade ago

The Schiff family has a lot of protection. Jacob Schiff was one of the strongest men in financial matters in New York and worldwide, and was a protege of the Loeb and Morgan families. The Schiff family is also intermarried with the Rothschild family.

wtf_is_happening ago

Damn. Pretty jelly right now.

pby1000 ago

Ah, yes! The Jacob Schiff that gave $20 M to the Bolsheviks, and then they set sail with it to Europe from New York Harbor.

Who Financed Lenin and Trotsky:

http://www.wildboar.net/multilingual/easterneuropean/russian/literature/articles/whofinanced/whofinancedleninandtrotsky.html

Jacob Schiff:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Schiff

Trotsky’s day out:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trotskys-day-out-how-a-visit-to-nyc-influenced-the-bolshevik-revolution/

ESOTERICshade ago

$20,000,000.00 in 1917 had the same buying power as $425,041,379.31 in 2018

https://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=20&year=1917

pby1000 ago

Hitler ransomed a Rothschild in 1938-1939 for $21M. I think he should not have done that. He gave up all of that leverage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Nathaniel_de_Rothschild

madhatter67 ago

To be fair....these people will sacrifice rheir own if the price is too high

pby1000 ago

I am still wondering about all of this. Something is not right. Churchill was a Druid, Hitler did not take over the Vatican and capture the Pope, and Hitler did not invade Switzerland and capture the world's gold.

ESOTERICshade ago

I think he should not have done that. He gave up all of that leverage.

lol...yup

ESOTERICshade ago

Ah, yes! The Jacob Schiff that gave $20 M to the Bolsheviks

That was a hell of a lot of money back then too.

pby1000 ago

Yep, and it was all to settle a score with the Czar.

ESOTERICshade ago

Yep, and it was all to settle a score with the Czar.

The Czar was the cousin of the English royalty too. So when they clipped the Czar they clipped their own kin. From the way I understand it the Czar was not necessarily bothering his cousins. His English cousins were pissed because the Czar was so fabulously wealthy and successful so they took him out and robbed the country blind. And then started killing tens of millions of people.

Are_we__sure ago

What does any of that have to do with Adam Schiff?

Shizy ago

You're such a bore

ESOTERICshade ago

What does any of that have to do with Adam Schiff?

I can assure you that it is more than you might be able to figure out. Its is a pretty tangled web.


For several generations the crowd was strikingly intramural when it came to marriage, making the crowd — to the larger crowd outside it — seem so cohesive and tight-knit as to be impenetrable. The "people we visit" became also the people we married. In the first American generation, a number of founding fathers married their own close relatives.


Joseph Seligman and his wife were first cousins, and in the next generation Joseph's brother's daughter married Joseph's sister's son. Meyer Guggenheim married his stepsister, and a Lewisohn married his own niece — and had to go to Europe to do it since such a union was, at that time, against the law in the United States — and as a result of this match he became a great-uncle to his children and his brother's son-in-law.


Three Seligman brothers married three sisters named Levi; several other Seligmans married Walters, and several married Beers. The Seligmans also followed the Jewish practice of offering widows in the family to the next unmarried son, by which process several women became double Seligmans.


Double cousinships abound. Seligmans have also married Hell- mans, Loebs, Lewisohns, Lilienthals, Guggenheims, and Leh- mans; Lehmans, who have married first-cousin Lehmans, have in addition married Lewisohns, Buttenwiesers, and Ickelhei- mers; Ickelheimers have married Stralems; Stralems have mar- ried Neustadts; Neustadts have married Schiffs; Schiffs have married Loebs and Warburgs; Warburgs have married Loebs, who, of course, have married Seligmans.

DeathToMasonsASAP ago

And Peter Schiff pretends to fight the "FED", yet never mentions who owns it. He also denies that his grandfather Jacob Schiff is the same Jacob Schiff who involved with Kuhn and Loeb start the FED. Schiff is controlled opposition. Wonder if Adam is also related.

Are_we__sure ago

Nothing you posted has anything to do with Adam Schiff. He's not from this family.

ESOTERICshade ago

Nothing you posted has anything to do with Adam Schiff. He's not from this family

I didn't say it was proof. I said it was complicated in your hood of the woods.

Are_we_sure ago

So you just posted 800 irrelevant words that don't apply to Adam Schiff, why?

Just to rile up Voat's anti-semitism?

ESOTERICshade ago

So you just posted 800 irrelevant words that don't apply to Adam Schiff, why?

That is your opinion. You are entitled to it.

Are_we_sure ago

The facts are that is not Congressman Adam Schiff's family. He is not part of the New York Schiffs.

alloutwar ago

Why are you always so annoying? Just wondering.

Are_we__sure ago

My tone is because ES is lying to you by implication. Schiff the Congressman has nothing to do with Schiff the banking family.

If tone is annoying to you, might mean you would prefer to believe the lies.

DeathToMasonsASAP ago

Except that he probably is related. So there is that.

Are_we__sure ago

He probably is related?

Are you just guessing? I am not.

alloutwar ago

I'm not referring to this particular comment but in general. I have no real preconceptions or biases about this I just wanted to know why you're annoying. What's your intention here on Voat?

Are_we__sure ago

To counter the conspiratoria propaganda regularly posted here and advocate for critical thinking and evidence based conclusions.

alloutwar ago

Wrong. You're a pest. I've seen you over in Pizzagate for months doing your thing and you have no clue what you're talking about most of the time.

Are_we__sure ago

You're welcome to point out any fact I got wrong or any argument that isn't sound.

alloutwar ago

Oh we did.

Are_we__sure ago

Go ahead and find a fact I have wrong.

alloutwar ago

Oh I will in the future. I'm not digging through past account comments.

Are_we__sure ago

just found out I got something wrong today.

pizzaequalspedo ago

He’s a paid propagandist just like you