That or Jesus who said judge not? Find a place where Jesus advocating punishing someone for sin (even horrible sins). I can find more than one where he argued the opposite.
It's funny how Kohlberg stage 4's need to present themselves as moral so they attempt to associate themselves with Jesus but Jesus spent all his time telling stage 4's they aren't actually moral.
Hmm. Ever heard about about the millstone for those who hurt children, in Matthew 18:16? Besides Christ is God and God has clear-cut punishments throughout the Bible for those who transgress against him and his creations. What Christ is saying is that one should not be a hypocrite when judging others. As it happens, there are plenty of people out there who don't actively sex traffic teenage girls so they are more than free to judge such a monster and mete out punishment for them.
I'd like to see the passage where Christ says that humans should not be punished for even horrible sins! Interesting that you find the need to twist God's message in relation to the topic at hand. I wonder why.
That's not advocacy for punishment. He doesn't advocate that you should put the millstone around his neck, but only that it would be better for him that he hadn't sinned in the first place.
This is an example of how people look for any excuse to justify harming others while attempting to inflate their sense of justice. They will read between the lines of anything and even misread things to promote the premise that they should harm people they see as less valuable than themselves.
So what do you suggest? Jesus says that bad things ought to happen to bad people, but that in reality we ought to not do anything to punish these bad people? Do you suggest that Christ advocates sheer anarchy? I hope you also realize that Christ is one with YHWH. The Old Testament has very clearly defined punishments for crimes, as commanded by YHWH/Christ. So what, Christ threw all that out of the window and now instead tells his followers that nothing at all should be done to punish the wicked.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
^So here Christ says that he has not come to destroy the laws of the Old Testament. Your inane argument is destroyed.
Altogether, you sound like a very strange person. Why are you so hell-bent on exonerating immoral and destructive behavior?
So the law is fulfilled. He pointed out in the case of the woman found in adultery that those punishing others are not always moral. So instead of exonerating immoral behavior I'm condeming all of it including unworthy sense of judgement.
So? If the people accusing the woman of adultery had been moral, the actual witnesses and the other counterpart of the committed adultery present, the woman and the man would've been stoned, according to God's/Christ's law. This is the same law as in the Old Testament.
As for the modern-day case in question, surely you are not suggesting that there aren't people out there who have not trafficked teen girls for sex, and that for this reason the trafficker should go unpunished?
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Smartech ago
Which God exactly? I am thinking about Moloch.
fusir ago
That or Jesus who said judge not? Find a place where Jesus advocating punishing someone for sin (even horrible sins). I can find more than one where he argued the opposite.
It's funny how Kohlberg stage 4's need to present themselves as moral so they attempt to associate themselves with Jesus but Jesus spent all his time telling stage 4's they aren't actually moral.
Hagen18 ago
Hmm. Ever heard about about the millstone for those who hurt children, in Matthew 18:16? Besides Christ is God and God has clear-cut punishments throughout the Bible for those who transgress against him and his creations. What Christ is saying is that one should not be a hypocrite when judging others. As it happens, there are plenty of people out there who don't actively sex traffic teenage girls so they are more than free to judge such a monster and mete out punishment for them.
I'd like to see the passage where Christ says that humans should not be punished for even horrible sins! Interesting that you find the need to twist God's message in relation to the topic at hand. I wonder why.
fusir ago
That's not advocacy for punishment. He doesn't advocate that you should put the millstone around his neck, but only that it would be better for him that he hadn't sinned in the first place.
This is an example of how people look for any excuse to justify harming others while attempting to inflate their sense of justice. They will read between the lines of anything and even misread things to promote the premise that they should harm people they see as less valuable than themselves.
Hagen18 ago
lol
So what do you suggest? Jesus says that bad things ought to happen to bad people, but that in reality we ought to not do anything to punish these bad people? Do you suggest that Christ advocates sheer anarchy? I hope you also realize that Christ is one with YHWH. The Old Testament has very clearly defined punishments for crimes, as commanded by YHWH/Christ. So what, Christ threw all that out of the window and now instead tells his followers that nothing at all should be done to punish the wicked.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
^So here Christ says that he has not come to destroy the laws of the Old Testament. Your inane argument is destroyed.
Altogether, you sound like a very strange person. Why are you so hell-bent on exonerating immoral and destructive behavior?
fusir ago
So the law is fulfilled. He pointed out in the case of the woman found in adultery that those punishing others are not always moral. So instead of exonerating immoral behavior I'm condeming all of it including unworthy sense of judgement.
Hagen18 ago
So? If the people accusing the woman of adultery had been moral, the actual witnesses and the other counterpart of the committed adultery present, the woman and the man would've been stoned, according to God's/Christ's law. This is the same law as in the Old Testament.
As for the modern-day case in question, surely you are not suggesting that there aren't people out there who have not trafficked teen girls for sex, and that for this reason the trafficker should go unpunished?