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Shizy ago

Many of us knew this revelation would only be a matter of time. Hopefully something actually comes of this and others involved are identified and prosecuted. These sick pedo freaks can't help but "share" their porn with each other

Fahrvergnaked ago

Paddock is a patsy. You believe he had CP because it's what you want to believe. Not saying that he didn't, exactly, just that this entire investigation stinks and I won't start believing them now just because they say he had CP.

This entire operation reeks of FF and I don't believe for a second that anyone is telling the truth. If he was part of PG cabal they WOULDN'T TELL YOU he had CP. They are smearing him to make him look guilty of the shooting.

The traffickers and elite also use CP as the ultimate tool to destroy enemies, plant some CP and throw that person's career, credibility, and reputation away forever. Nobody believes Paddock was the shooter? Say they found CP and suddenly no one cares if he was guilty of the shootings because he was "obviously" a perv. This kind of "believe what we say without any evidence or proof" from the LE/INT community is making me sick.

And how come this community thinks that LE can be involved in pedogate but isn't capable of lying to frame someone? We need to stop listening to the narrative or a word that LE or the gov tell us and focus on what we actually know, which is that the elite are pedos and just because someone is accused of possessing CP doesn't mean it isn't planted evidence by aforementioned elite. They are using our own hatred of child abuse and our desire to expose the elite against us.

I'll reiterate one more time. If he was part of cabal that we can assume involves bad actors at high levels of LE and Gov. (which I believe it does), he would NOT be exposed as a member of said cabal. Where is the logic there? We're entering a Mcarthy-esque paranoia in this community and we're blindly accusing everyone of being a pedophile without realizing that the elite have the power to frame anyone as a pedo to get rid of them, or to make them look guilty. Please, please start thinking more critically about this and stop hair trigger connecting everything to PG like this.

BloodSnail ago

I agree with your reasoning here, but your use of "McCarthy-esque paranoia" is wrong, because McCarthy was largely correct about all of his suspicions and any claims that he made. Check out Stefan Molyneux's presentation "The Truth About McCarthyism: Modern Parallels". He details in great length how McCarthy is similar to Trump, and that he was a hero.

Fahrvergnaked ago

You're not wrong. I used McCarthy-esque as a shortcut to illustrate the concept. Furthermore, McCarthy was right, but the "red scare", he caused was largely misdirected. That's what I don't want to see in this community. This stuff is real, I'm not denying that. I just don't want the community to start equating EVERYTHING involving children as related to this. We're starting to accuse anybody who mentions children, pizza, or Haiti and I just think we should be more precise and less bombastic, any error we make and any false connection we allude to is a weapon against us.

If we're right (which we are) we should be able to be more calculated, less error prone, and less excitable. I'm seeing people in this community post links to one tweet taken out of context while anons on /pol/ have spent MONTHS autistically tying real connections together and making graphics. Low effort Barney Fife posting is the surest way to get people to think that this is a community of nut-cases. I don't so much care if people don't believe us, but the whole point of Q-anon and the pizzagate community in general is to bring widespread awareness of this to the normies. We cannot do that effectively with bs connections and poor reasoning and logic. All in all I think this movement is unstoppable and I'm excited by that. But I'd like to eliminate some of the low-effort boomer posting that is going on here, I don't think it's malicious or ill-intentioned, but it is a distraction and a hindrance to proper investigation.

BloodSnail ago

I've concluded that the solution to the advanced Reddit shillery and censorship was, and is not, moving to Voat. It was a nice temporary escape while it lasted, but the shills evolve too rapidly these days. Something like Steemit, a blockchain-based content curator, seems to me like it would be more effective, but Steemit itself isn't the platform to end all platforms. It has lots of problems, shilling of their own, etc. I'm of the mindset that a long term, might I even say permanent solution to The Great Online Shill Epidemic is not through community-driven efforts to keep up the quality. That type of solution will never last. The structure of the platform must be shill-proof, but I don't know if that exists yet.