What doorway has supposedly been cloned out? There are only two doorways in that end part (this is not the whole of Pegasus, only about a third of it), both of which are shown.
Ah okay. Might be a good idea to put in a comment about that as it makes it seem like you are focusing on that with that post/link.
I have been looking into Pegasus ever since it came up. I've been looking into all manner of potential links and things are still coming up empty. That building, by the looks of things, has undergone quite a costly restoration. We know it was, for a time, used as a pop-up music venue, but I think I've also seen something at some point (I don't have that to hand at the minute) that said that some people were living there as well. It doesn't look like it's a place that has been refurbished to be living quarters, and that also goes against why exactly Alefantis called it 'Pegasus Museum'. As far as I've seen, and I have looked a lot, I've never seen it used as a museum at all. So the question does stand: what is that building actually being used for?
Let's call Scott Cummings or Alefantis and ask them what it is for. Seriously, where the do you think proof is going to come from ? I clearly said it was open for speculation and given the copious amount of evidence that indicates what these freaks do to children, it's a pretty solid conclusion I am making. Why don't you stop being a bugger and tell me why the room is designed that way ? Do you even have an opinion?
That part of Pegasus, with the rolling Mezzanine creating a kind of second floor, is certainly odd in its design. I have seen a photo of the ground-floor area being used as a performance area for a gig, with people watching from both the ground-floor and up on the Mezzanine.
As a working area for Squareform, which is what is pictured in those images you link to, it has attributes that make you think yes, it could be legit, and some that make you think otherwise. The rolling Mezzanine clearly has two desk areas for the two main designers, Joseph Wills and Scott Cummings, a drawing board, it's high up near to the windows for better light, and obviously is well situated being in the end part of a building whose main function was fabrication of various objects/products, so close proximity to the people doing the fabricating.
The things that go against are the fact that there seems to be no electric sockets to power the laptops used in these images. There is also no storage for tools and equipment. While the lighting is slightly better on the 'upstairs' was it really necessary to go to the trouble and expense of building the Mezzanine? The ground-floor, although pictured with a table that they had made, wasn't a space that was necessary to be kept clear for transport of products out of the building, as they had the garage doors of the fabricating room for that, which is a far easier job that getting something through that small door. Then there are the obvious connotations of the term 'Castellum' (watchtower) and the vantage point that those guys had at that time, from those 'upstairs' windows or on the roof.
show the photo of the performance on the ground. Have not seen that. Have seen the monkeys on the top floor hanging over, watching 'something', but that image seems to be lost. The sliding floors cut off any access to the stairs when pulled to the ends and centers the odd shaped table below.
I see no bars on the red or blue houses. Also, I see bars on only ONE window of the property, even more suspect. A single pic of a performer does nothing to poke holes in my conclusions, but thanks for the pic. Had not seen it.
There are black bars on the red house right in front of you on that pic and white bars on the darker blue house further to the right. Lots of others have bars on the doors, and some on the other side of the street have them as well. There are lots of them.
Don't worry, it's not necessarily to poke holes in your conclusions, it's simply one piece of available evidence of that space being used to showcase music on one occasion; I don't think that was a regular occurrence or anything. We know that the rest of Pegasus was used as a music venue BEFORE it was Pegasus, back when it was referred to as 'Paper Sun', but there has been no evidence that I have found for Pegasus being a music venue, an art venue, a museum, or anything for that matter. Which is why I want to know what it is. A lot of time and money has gone into that building and seems to be serving no purpose, officially at least.
I agree with your response. Do not see the bars on the Red and Blue houses either. Hmm. A small gathering for such a big place and owned by someone like JA, really does not convince me. Also it says the groups new spot Square Forum? Is that the new name for Pegasus? Odd.
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Yuke ago
What doorway has supposedly been cloned out? There are only two doorways in that end part (this is not the whole of Pegasus, only about a third of it), both of which are shown.
Oh_Well_ian ago
disregard that... That was not my notation.
Yuke ago
Ah okay. Might be a good idea to put in a comment about that as it makes it seem like you are focusing on that with that post/link.
I have been looking into Pegasus ever since it came up. I've been looking into all manner of potential links and things are still coming up empty. That building, by the looks of things, has undergone quite a costly restoration. We know it was, for a time, used as a pop-up music venue, but I think I've also seen something at some point (I don't have that to hand at the minute) that said that some people were living there as well. It doesn't look like it's a place that has been refurbished to be living quarters, and that also goes against why exactly Alefantis called it 'Pegasus Museum'. As far as I've seen, and I have looked a lot, I've never seen it used as a museum at all. So the question does stand: what is that building actually being used for?
Oh_Well_ian ago
It's a venue for ritualistic abuse. It's also a one stop shop to exchange art for pizza. It is intended to clean up and consolidate the operation.
Sliding platforms that cut off access from below and provide a mezzanine level for spectators. A table perfect for splaying out a victims. Ugh.
I left out any of my personal conclusions in the submission and would like other to chime in.
Yuke ago
And all of that is your own conclusions or opinions, you don't have any proof of any of that, which is exactly what we need.
Oh_Well_ian ago
Let's call Scott Cummings or Alefantis and ask them what it is for. Seriously, where the do you think proof is going to come from ? I clearly said it was open for speculation and given the copious amount of evidence that indicates what these freaks do to children, it's a pretty solid conclusion I am making. Why don't you stop being a bugger and tell me why the room is designed that way ? Do you even have an opinion?
Yuke ago
That part of Pegasus, with the rolling Mezzanine creating a kind of second floor, is certainly odd in its design. I have seen a photo of the ground-floor area being used as a performance area for a gig, with people watching from both the ground-floor and up on the Mezzanine.
As a working area for Squareform, which is what is pictured in those images you link to, it has attributes that make you think yes, it could be legit, and some that make you think otherwise. The rolling Mezzanine clearly has two desk areas for the two main designers, Joseph Wills and Scott Cummings, a drawing board, it's high up near to the windows for better light, and obviously is well situated being in the end part of a building whose main function was fabrication of various objects/products, so close proximity to the people doing the fabricating.
The things that go against are the fact that there seems to be no electric sockets to power the laptops used in these images. There is also no storage for tools and equipment. While the lighting is slightly better on the 'upstairs' was it really necessary to go to the trouble and expense of building the Mezzanine? The ground-floor, although pictured with a table that they had made, wasn't a space that was necessary to be kept clear for transport of products out of the building, as they had the garage doors of the fabricating room for that, which is a far easier job that getting something through that small door. Then there are the obvious connotations of the term 'Castellum' (watchtower) and the vantage point that those guys had at that time, from those 'upstairs' windows or on the roof.
I just want to know what is there now.
Oh_Well_ian ago
show the photo of the performance on the ground. Have not seen that. Have seen the monkeys on the top floor hanging over, watching 'something', but that image seems to be lost. The sliding floors cut off any access to the stairs when pulled to the ends and centers the odd shaped table below.
check out Alefantis' painter friend Eames Armstrong's 'Thong Dungeon' http://www.eamesarmstrong.com/2015-present.html
Also, the 11th street address is the ONLY house in that row with bars on the windows
Yuke ago
Performance pic https://www.instagram.com/p/d8b_T7CjIh/?taken-by=littleredfoxdc
I agree that the Mezzanine design is odd and that part of the building could be used for illicit practices.
There are other houses on that row with bars. The Red house and the darker Blue house to name just two.
Oh_Well_ian ago
I see no bars on the red or blue houses. Also, I see bars on only ONE window of the property, even more suspect. A single pic of a performer does nothing to poke holes in my conclusions, but thanks for the pic. Had not seen it.
https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9332197,-77.0285034,3a,75y,274.67h,81.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXc_uAxP5wfhhQBc1iFK6kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Yuke ago
There are black bars on the red house right in front of you on that pic and white bars on the darker blue house further to the right. Lots of others have bars on the doors, and some on the other side of the street have them as well. There are lots of them.
Don't worry, it's not necessarily to poke holes in your conclusions, it's simply one piece of available evidence of that space being used to showcase music on one occasion; I don't think that was a regular occurrence or anything. We know that the rest of Pegasus was used as a music venue BEFORE it was Pegasus, back when it was referred to as 'Paper Sun', but there has been no evidence that I have found for Pegasus being a music venue, an art venue, a museum, or anything for that matter. Which is why I want to know what it is. A lot of time and money has gone into that building and seems to be serving no purpose, officially at least.
carmencita ago
I agree with your response. Do not see the bars on the Red and Blue houses either. Hmm. A small gathering for such a big place and owned by someone like JA, really does not convince me. Also it says the groups new spot Square Forum? Is that the new name for Pegasus? Odd.