Yahweh is satan, there is no way around it. If you have read the bible critically you would come to the same conclusion. I make this long post to prove this point. Just a reminder, this is just a few passages of many in the bible that can prove the point that Yahweh is indeed satan, but these should be good enough.
He is the creator of evil; “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”- Isaiah 45:7
Yahweh on many occasions presents himself as a consuming fire and can even fucking breath fire from his nostrils and mouth; ''Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it''-Psalm 18:8
What about Yahweh actions throughout the bible, are they evil? OH YEAH , in fact references in where Yahweh is being kind and loving are VERY few compared to how many references there are that shows what an evil bastard he is.
Yahweh is a god of war(not the ''devil):
''The lord is a man of war, the Lord is his name''- Exodus 15:3
How does Yahweh like to conduct his warfare? Here are some examples:
"I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian-- brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom''- Isiah 19:2
''I(Yahweh) will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)
Yahweh ordering genocide; ''Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.''-1 Samuel 15:3
Yahweh ''choosen ones'', following the sick and disgusting orders of the demon Yahweh; '
And they(The Hebrews) utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young old and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword'' Joshua 6:21
'' And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain''- Duetronomy 2:34
''And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle and the spoils of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves''- Dueteronomy 3:6-7
Yahweh orders directly to his ''Choosen ones'' to slay old and young, little children and women; ''Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. - Ezekiel 9:5-6
More quotes to show how loving the biblical god is;
''Everyone one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished''- Isiah 13:15-16
''Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly and all that is therein, and the cattle, thereof, with the edge of the sword''- Dueteronomy 13:15
Yahweh calling for burning and destruction of properties and places;
''Ye shall UTTERLY DESTROY all places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire, and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names out of that place. - Dueteronomy 12:2-3
Satan Yahweh likes to murder people by consuming them with fire ''And there came out of a fire from the LORD, and consumed two hundred and fifty men that offered incense'' - Numbers 16:32-35
And Yahweh is proud of his murderous kill streak; ''The LORD had smitten many of the people with great slaughter''- Samuel 6:19
Yahweh also likes vengence: ''The righteous shall rejoice when he sees the vengence. He shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked''
And of course, there is also human sacrifice in the bible;
Yahweh showing his obsession for the first born son;
“Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.” Exodus 13:2
“At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, “If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”- Judges 11:31
Later on we read that the first one who come out of Jephthah house was his daughter so what did he do? He burnt her as a sacrifice to Yahweh.
‘’When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin’’- (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)
Did the loving God intervene and stop him from sacrificing his daughter to him? Of course not, he wanted him to sacrifice her to him.
Yahweh commands burning Humans;
“The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire. (Joshua 7:15 NLT)
More human sacrifice:
Chastised a little, they shall be greatly blessed, because God tried them and found them worthy of himself. As gold in the furnace, he proved them, and as sacrificial offerings he took them to himself (Wisdom 3:5-7)
What does God want to with the nonbelievers? Burn them of course as sacrifice to him!
If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
According to Yahweh, Humans are fuel for fire(do you see how fire is constantly associated with the ‘’loving’’ god)
n the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken. (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB)
And then you have Leviticus 27:28-29
’’Nevertheless, anything which a man sets apart to the LORD out of all that he has, of man or animal or of the fields of his own property, shall not be sold or redeemed. Anything devoted to destruction is most holy to the LORD. No one who may have been set apart among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death’’
The only reason why Yahweh is shown to be mad about human sacrifice like his opposition to sacrificing to Baal, is because, it’s not a sacrifice being made to HIM. Baal was competition. He has no problem with human sacrifice at all! He only has a problem with it when sacrifice is being made in the name of other gods and not him. Because in the story of Jeremiah 19, it is never stated that Yahweh is mad because of the ACT of human sacrifice but sacrifice beingmade in the name of other gods.
Also here are cases of cannibalism in the bible, caused by the demon Yahweh:
As punishment for sacrificing children on the altar, what does the loving god do?
‘’And I will(Yahweh) cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them. – Jeremiah 19:9
This is what the loving god does, instead of rescuing the children and punishing those who involved themselves in human sacrifice. Instead he punishes everyone, including children to the point where they get eaten.
‘’Because of the suffering the enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will EAT the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters, the lord your god has given you – Dueteronomy 28:53
Here is god saying it is a-ok to eat the fetal tissues and then also the flesh of the sons and daughters.
Another one;
‘’Therefore the father shall eat the sons in the midst of thee and the sons shall eat their fathers’’- Ezekiel 5:10
‘‘By the wrath of the LORD Almighty the land will be scorched and the people will be fuel for the fire;they will not spare one another. On the right they will devour,but still be hungry;on the left they will eat, but not be satisfied. Each will feed on the flesh of their own offspring’’- Isiah 9:19
There are more passages that shows that Yahweh was into cannibalism along with human sacrifice, but this should be enough to show that Yahweh is the devil.
The bible is satanic and is just as evil as Aleister Crowley’s and Anton lavey’s work because Yahweh is all for the same evils those two bastards were and why? Because he is Satan and he is the one both Aleister and Anton worshipped. The difference with Christians is that they have been fooled into believing that Yahweh is loving and kind because they’ve never seen these passages I’ve mentioned above (and many others) only the few ones in the bible that are wholesome, but is that not how Satan is suppose to work? To be deceptive, to show himself as good and loving to lure his victims so that they can worship him not realizing they are actually worshipping the devil?
That's a distortion, but I will play along... as with both of your examples, people make that choice to submit. Why would anyone have a problem with what a person chooses for themselves?
If it were called sado masochism instead of Christianity I would say they chose it, its complete mind control garbage IMHO, fathers should not brutally sacrifice their sons, women should not be considered less than a man, placing the consequences of ones "sin" on another is being a scapegoat....it's very dangerous stuff.
"How often are you reading about Christian dads killing their sons for god? " God killed his "only begotten son" in a very bloody way I might add and every good American should be willing to send their son into battle and die.
He is the creator of evil; “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”- Isaiah 45:7
According to the Book of Formation, reality has three spatial dimensions, one temporal, and a dimension of peace and evil.
''Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it''-Psalm 18:8
Free will has consequences, as Creator he has the responsibility of preventing these consequences from going too far.
''The lord is a man of war, the Lord is his name''- Exodus 15:3
War can be fought for a just cause.
"I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian-- brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom''- Isiah 19:2
Executing justice can involve punishment. Sometimes that punishment is severe (eg the flood), but there is a good reason for it:
And YHWH saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. (Genesis 6:5)
And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. (Isaiah 13:15)
Your description of just punishment as murder is absurd, who are you to judge the actions of deity?
''According to the Book of Formation, reality has three spatial dimensions, one temporal, and a dimension of peace and evil''
What does this have to with the passage in which Yahweh admits that he creates both darkness and light? And how a deity claim to be good if they can create and do evil? Even jesus(son of satan) said ''No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit''. So how can Yahweh be a good tree if he bears bad fruit? Also the whole philosophy behind having a balance between good and evil is Kabbalistic.
War can be fought for a just cause? What just cause was it that Yahweh started wars over? Because the people he considered his enemies were heathens, ''evil'' pagans? You think it is ok to massacre an entire people because they are pagan?
''Executing justice can involve punishment''
Yeah, executing justice through punishment on children, infants and sucklings. Can you explain to me how it is justified in anyway to kill children, infants and sucklings as ''punishment'' when they are by definition innocent and pure? What crime did they commit or even can commit? Was there crime, simply existing or did Yahweh just wanted to see children being murdered, which one is it???
And how can a loving god command the death of children? In no context will that ever fucking make sense. What makes sense is that Yahweh is the opposite of a loving god, he is the fucking devil. The devil want to see wars, destruction and mass death with mercy shown to none, not even to a freaking infant. Your god is evil, your god is SATAN, period and if you can't see that then there is really no hope for you.
What does this have to with the passage in which Yahweh admits that he creates both darkness and light?
It's hardly an admission of anything.
And how a deity claim to be good if they can create and do evil?
Justice involves repaying evil with evil.
So how can Yahweh be a good tree if he bears bad fruit?
What bad fruit? Justice and righteousness are the same thing in the Hebrew language.
Also the whole philosophy behind having a balance between good and evil is Kabbalistic.
I wasn't talking about a balance between good and evil.
War can be fought for a just cause?
Of course.
What just cause was it that Yahweh started wars over?
What wars do you think he started?
Because the people he considered his enemies were heathens, ''evil'' pagans? You think it is ok to massacre an entire people because they are pagan?
It's not about their beliefs, it abut their actions.
Yeah, executing justice through punishment on children, infants and sucklings. Can you explain to me how it is justified in anyway to kill children, infants and sucklings as ''punishment'' when they are by definition innocent and pure?
A quick death is better than a slow death by starvation.
What makes sense is that Yahweh is the opposite of a loving god, he is the fucking devil.
Like I said, you're the devil. You've previously ignored context which explains genocide after you claimed to read the Bible critically.
The devil want to see wars, destruction and mass death with mercy shown to none, not even to a freaking infant.
Like I said before, devil means slanderer, which is what you are because you misrepresent the facts about deity.
Your god is evil, your god is SATAN, period and if you can't see that then there is really no hope for you.
I'm not the one who is ignoring the facts that refute my position.
I have heard similar before. Not an expert at all, but this sounds plausable. Forgive me if I am giving this too easy a pass, I am not religious, and have not spent time with scipture. So I don't have strong feelings. But the idea that they have fooled everybody into mistakenly worship their master, is the type of thing I think they are capable of pulling of. We know that Christmas is not the date of any Brithday or holy day for Jesus. So why that date?
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worldofmadness ago
When you realize that the biblical god aka Yahweh is actually the devil this all makes sense and this should not suprise anyone.
Random101 ago
LOL You're the devil. Devil means slanderer.
worldofmadness ago
Yahweh is satan, there is no way around it. If you have read the bible critically you would come to the same conclusion. I make this long post to prove this point. Just a reminder, this is just a few passages of many in the bible that can prove the point that Yahweh is indeed satan, but these should be good enough.
He is the creator of evil; “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”- Isaiah 45:7
Yahweh on many occasions presents himself as a consuming fire and can even fucking breath fire from his nostrils and mouth; ''Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it''-Psalm 18:8
What about Yahweh actions throughout the bible, are they evil? OH YEAH , in fact references in where Yahweh is being kind and loving are VERY few compared to how many references there are that shows what an evil bastard he is.
Yahweh is a god of war(not the ''devil):
''The lord is a man of war, the Lord is his name''- Exodus 15:3
How does Yahweh like to conduct his warfare? Here are some examples:
"I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian-- brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom''- Isiah 19:2
''I(Yahweh) will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)
Yahweh ordering genocide; ''Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.''-1 Samuel 15:3
Yahweh ''choosen ones'', following the sick and disgusting orders of the demon Yahweh; ' And they(The Hebrews) utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young old and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword'' Joshua 6:21
'' And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain''- Duetronomy 2:34
''And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle and the spoils of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves''- Dueteronomy 3:6-7
Yahweh orders directly to his ''Choosen ones'' to slay old and young, little children and women; ''Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. - Ezekiel 9:5-6
More quotes to show how loving the biblical god is; ''Everyone one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished''- Isiah 13:15-16
''Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly and all that is therein, and the cattle, thereof, with the edge of the sword''- Dueteronomy 13:15
Yahweh calling for burning and destruction of properties and places; ''Ye shall UTTERLY DESTROY all places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire, and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names out of that place. - Dueteronomy 12:2-3
Satan Yahweh likes to murder people by consuming them with fire ''And there came out of a fire from the LORD, and consumed two hundred and fifty men that offered incense'' - Numbers 16:32-35
And Yahweh is proud of his murderous kill streak; ''The LORD had smitten many of the people with great slaughter''- Samuel 6:19
Yahweh also likes vengence: ''The righteous shall rejoice when he sees the vengence. He shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked''
And of course, there is also human sacrifice in the bible;
Yahweh showing his obsession for the first born son; “Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.” Exodus 13:2
“At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, “If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”- Judges 11:31
Later on we read that the first one who come out of Jephthah house was his daughter so what did he do? He burnt her as a sacrifice to Yahweh.
‘’When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin’’- (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)
Did the loving God intervene and stop him from sacrificing his daughter to him? Of course not, he wanted him to sacrifice her to him.
Yahweh commands burning Humans; “The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire. (Joshua 7:15 NLT)
More human sacrifice: Chastised a little, they shall be greatly blessed, because God tried them and found them worthy of himself. As gold in the furnace, he proved them, and as sacrificial offerings he took them to himself (Wisdom 3:5-7) What does God want to with the nonbelievers? Burn them of course as sacrifice to him!
If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
According to Yahweh, Humans are fuel for fire(do you see how fire is constantly associated with the ‘’loving’’ god)
n the place where you were created, in the land of your origin, I will judge you. I will pour out my indignation upon you, breathing my fiery wrath upon you, I will hand you over to ravaging men, artisans of destruction. You shall be fuel for the fire, your blood shall flow throughout the land. You shall not be remembered, for I, the LORD, have spoken. (Ezekiel 21:33-37 NAB)
And then you have Leviticus 27:28-29
’’Nevertheless, anything which a man sets apart to the LORD out of all that he has, of man or animal or of the fields of his own property, shall not be sold or redeemed. Anything devoted to destruction is most holy to the LORD. No one who may have been set apart among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death’’
The only reason why Yahweh is shown to be mad about human sacrifice like his opposition to sacrificing to Baal, is because, it’s not a sacrifice being made to HIM. Baal was competition. He has no problem with human sacrifice at all! He only has a problem with it when sacrifice is being made in the name of other gods and not him. Because in the story of Jeremiah 19, it is never stated that Yahweh is mad because of the ACT of human sacrifice but sacrifice beingmade in the name of other gods.
Also here are cases of cannibalism in the bible, caused by the demon Yahweh: As punishment for sacrificing children on the altar, what does the loving god do?
‘’And I will(Yahweh) cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them. – Jeremiah 19:9
This is what the loving god does, instead of rescuing the children and punishing those who involved themselves in human sacrifice. Instead he punishes everyone, including children to the point where they get eaten.
‘’Because of the suffering the enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will EAT the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters, the lord your god has given you – Dueteronomy 28:53
Here is god saying it is a-ok to eat the fetal tissues and then also the flesh of the sons and daughters.
Another one; ‘’Therefore the father shall eat the sons in the midst of thee and the sons shall eat their fathers’’- Ezekiel 5:10
‘‘By the wrath of the LORD Almighty the land will be scorched and the people will be fuel for the fire;they will not spare one another. On the right they will devour,but still be hungry;on the left they will eat, but not be satisfied. Each will feed on the flesh of their own offspring’’- Isiah 9:19
There are more passages that shows that Yahweh was into cannibalism along with human sacrifice, but this should be enough to show that Yahweh is the devil. The bible is satanic and is just as evil as Aleister Crowley’s and Anton lavey’s work because Yahweh is all for the same evils those two bastards were and why? Because he is Satan and he is the one both Aleister and Anton worshipped. The difference with Christians is that they have been fooled into believing that Yahweh is loving and kind because they’ve never seen these passages I’ve mentioned above (and many others) only the few ones in the bible that are wholesome, but is that not how Satan is suppose to work? To be deceptive, to show himself as good and loving to lure his victims so that they can worship him not realizing they are actually worshipping the devil?
Shillaxe ago
The bible also teaches the flock to be submissive, fearing your master whom you also love is the premise behind sado masochism as well.
Shizy ago
That's a distortion, but I will play along... as with both of your examples, people make that choice to submit. Why would anyone have a problem with what a person chooses for themselves?
Shillaxe ago
If it were called sado masochism instead of Christianity I would say they chose it, its complete mind control garbage IMHO, fathers should not brutally sacrifice their sons, women should not be considered less than a man, placing the consequences of ones "sin" on another is being a scapegoat....it's very dangerous stuff.
think- ago
Agree. This is why so many pple leave the Church nowadays. They don't want to be treated like masochists.
Shizy ago
None of that happens in Christianity!
Shillaxe ago
"How often are you reading about Christian dads killing their sons for god? " God killed his "only begotten son" in a very bloody way I might add and every good American should be willing to send their son into battle and die.
Shillaxe ago
Whatever.
Random101 ago
According to the Book of Formation, reality has three spatial dimensions, one temporal, and a dimension of peace and evil.
Free will has consequences, as Creator he has the responsibility of preventing these consequences from going too far.
War can be fought for a just cause.
Executing justice can involve punishment. Sometimes that punishment is severe (eg the flood), but there is a good reason for it:
And YHWH saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. (Genesis 6:5)
And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. (Isaiah 13:15)
Your description of just punishment as murder is absurd, who are you to judge the actions of deity?
worldofmadness ago
''According to the Book of Formation, reality has three spatial dimensions, one temporal, and a dimension of peace and evil''
What does this have to with the passage in which Yahweh admits that he creates both darkness and light? And how a deity claim to be good if they can create and do evil? Even jesus(son of satan) said ''No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit''. So how can Yahweh be a good tree if he bears bad fruit? Also the whole philosophy behind having a balance between good and evil is Kabbalistic.
War can be fought for a just cause? What just cause was it that Yahweh started wars over? Because the people he considered his enemies were heathens, ''evil'' pagans? You think it is ok to massacre an entire people because they are pagan?
''Executing justice can involve punishment'' Yeah, executing justice through punishment on children, infants and sucklings. Can you explain to me how it is justified in anyway to kill children, infants and sucklings as ''punishment'' when they are by definition innocent and pure? What crime did they commit or even can commit? Was there crime, simply existing or did Yahweh just wanted to see children being murdered, which one is it??? And how can a loving god command the death of children? In no context will that ever fucking make sense. What makes sense is that Yahweh is the opposite of a loving god, he is the fucking devil. The devil want to see wars, destruction and mass death with mercy shown to none, not even to a freaking infant. Your god is evil, your god is SATAN, period and if you can't see that then there is really no hope for you.
Random101 ago
It's hardly an admission of anything.
Justice involves repaying evil with evil.
What bad fruit? Justice and righteousness are the same thing in the Hebrew language.
I wasn't talking about a balance between good and evil.
Of course.
What wars do you think he started?
It's not about their beliefs, it abut their actions.
A quick death is better than a slow death by starvation.
Like I said, you're the devil. You've previously ignored context which explains genocide after you claimed to read the Bible critically.
Like I said before, devil means slanderer, which is what you are because you misrepresent the facts about deity.
I'm not the one who is ignoring the facts that refute my position.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
I have heard similar before. Not an expert at all, but this sounds plausable. Forgive me if I am giving this too easy a pass, I am not religious, and have not spent time with scipture. So I don't have strong feelings. But the idea that they have fooled everybody into mistakenly worship their master, is the type of thing I think they are capable of pulling of. We know that Christmas is not the date of any Brithday or holy day for Jesus. So why that date?