One piece of "evidence" that I've seen over and over again is the photo of JP with a fish and the number 14 painted on his hands.
I debunked that photo over a year ago and it has been used and re-used, bantered about and re-propped up and is still used today as proof of absolutely nothing at all.
(The debunking was in the form of a very obvious explanation: He was clearly Tweet-promoting the UN agenda related to saving the environment. All you need to do is read his Twitter for any length of time to see this is an issue he cares about.)
Goal #14 is simply: Conserve and sustainably use the oceans, seas and marine resources...(Hence the FISH symbol and the number 14! Doh!)
The 14 and the fish are 100% directly tied to that, even on the UN website: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/
I didn't join PG to particiapte in a witch-hunt or to falsely accuse people of anything.
Though it appears there are huge mysteries surrounding many OTHER facts/ideas behind PG, the echo chamber of actual bullshit needs to truly stop.
The internet should be scrubbed of that iconic 14/fish / photo and the guy should be apologized to over it. The explanation I proffered came pretty easily, just by reading many of his older tweets. His connection to environmental matters is pretty hard to overlook.
If the guy actually turns out to be just a passionate "foodie", then many here look a bit ridiculous as well.
THIS all said, IF anyone is actually hurting kids -- I have no problem with anyone continuing to do what we can, to put a stop to it and bring justice about for these priceless souls, but if all we have is a collection of assumptive facts and a fairy-tale narrative, are we doing right?
Yes. The Instagram stuff is beyond disgusting, but that wasn't JP. Yes, the bands are sick, but what does that have to do with JP? Yes, the comments by SL are over the top, but that was at CPP, not by JP.
Yes, I find JA to be uncomfortably creepy, but that isn't JP. Yes, the artwork is over-the-top disgusting, but that is TP, not JP. Spirit cooking looks reprehensible and gross, but does this prove what it has been assumed to prove?
The photo of the teddy bear in the adult bedroom is bizarre, but bizarre does not make a case such as what is implied.
Yes, I find the debunking and censorship over-the-moon bizarre, and yes, it "feels" like something is amiss in all this -- somewhere, but can we justify tormenting anyone whatsoever without any actual proof of anything at all?
I am not excusing/minimizing or making excuses for anyone. I just know for a fact that PG has gotten it wrong with several so-called smoking gun facts and is very slow to retract them -- and I find that disturbing to be a part of.
What I'm saying is that we need to be sure that this thread is always about keeping it real.
Seeking truth and telling the truth are not always the same and knowing the difference is essential.
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CantStopCrying ago
I mean crap, look at the Icon for #14:
http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/
Isn't this exactly what he painted on his hands?
This meme has been circulating for a very long time and was used to "red-pill" many people.
How ethical is it?
VivianMcGloob ago
@Asolo claims the number and fish was photoshopped altogether on his blog angerfishin
ASolo ago
NOT my website and that photo is one of the most spurious and circumstantial photographs out of this entire investigation and one that I have never had the wherewithal, evidence or desire to comment or even speculate on. Something tells me you GCHQ fuckers like to focus on these little details repeatedly to set up your cute counter-memes in the MSM. Flog off you flagellate bundle of sticks.
CantStopCrying ago
The original image itself was posted directly on JP's twitter feed, by whomever posts to his account.
He posted it to promote this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/
He had MANY tweets about the environment and goals around it at that time.
(The fingers may be shopper later. Can't remember.)
This is why this disturbs me so much.
I merely decided not to take anyone else's word for it and read a bunch of his Tweet's going back as long as I had interest.
I found that original picture and knew it was about this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/
and have been very sad seeing how it has been used as a bed-rock of the "case" against this guy.
That pic is used in meme-warfare to taunt this guy over and over again.
Does this make him innocent? No idea.
But, that pic may not make him "guilty" in the slightest.
Yet, that IS the pic that red-pilled probably millions of people.
If that is all a ruse, it is sad as hell.
VivianMcGloob ago
Just ask @ASolo he will tell you that it is completely photoshopped from day one. You think Podesta cares about oceans? Think again. He cares about lining his stomach with risotto and watching re-runs of x-files pretending aliens are anything more than weather balloons. That is his one political ambition, to run the FBI and uncover the existence of aliens. NASA even sent him an alien email. We know they are honest. Not.
CantStopCrying ago
The photo of the 14 and the fish was posted directly on JP Twitter feed, by whomever posts to that account.
and it related to this: http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/oceans/
Note the 14 and the fish.
It is just plain scary to me, that my "fact-checking" would be called into question so much.
I mean shit, his Twitter is public and easy to verify for yourself.
That is all I did.
No sorcery here.