Repost of deleted item -- link to original below.
While most of Q's offerings align with what researchers here have found over the past year -- there are things that don't jibe.
It's important that this community take a moment to think on those things Q and other high-ranking anons are saying that don't ring true for each of us, and compile them so we can review, see what others are thinking, and, if necessary, escape any groupthink and/or confirmatory bias that might have swept us up in the excitement.
Three things off the top of my head:
The Las Vegas narrative they offered seems even more far-fetched than anything that's come out of LVMPD and the FBI so far.
The Saudis-afraid-of-fracking narrative seems similarly far-fetched. Clinton was NOT going to stop fracking if she'd been elected.
The Saudi-Rothchild-Soros triangle is, as we know, over-simplistic and misdirectional.
Pizzagate-related because if we're being intentionally led off track, we need to regroup and refocus on our purpose here. If everything looks fine after we calmly review it, then we can more forward with more confidence.
Reposted with obligatory link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlG6MpIh6Mo (no real new info here -- couldn't find anything that truly addresses the topic I'm raising)
Link to original post -- good comments, please read: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2252303
Also cross-posted to /pizzagatewhatever -- more good comments here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2252304
Commenters @11-11 @angelafogo @ESOTERICshade @think @SoldierofLight @Cantilever @Oh_Well_ian -- just a heads up in case you'd like to repost comments here.
Thanks all for your patience. I'm learning my way around.
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ESOTERICshade ago
Its a massive troll in my opinion. Plain common sense tells us that you don't let children be raped and tortured because you have to condition the delicate minds of the public first. If they had the power to stop it they would stop it immediately regardless of how surprised the public would be. This will require military and intelligence intervention and has nothing to do with the public.
Operations of this nature are not leaked to public image boards so that the enemy can watch the plans unfold. Common sense alone should provide awareness of that. These people are so ruthless that they torture and rape children. You do not notify them you are coming for them and let them watch the plans. This a cruel joke. It boggles my mind that anybody would believe it.
The whole narrative about the "bad saudi princes" got arrested and now we have the good ones is a non-starter. The whole Saud family is a bunch of savages. Make that depraved savages.
Q sold that as knocking out "one leg of the triangle" for the first time in history. Nope. The true triangle is D.C. - Vatican - London. Saudia Arabia is a puppet of the world banking oligarchs and is continuing to starve millions in Yemen and exposing them to cholera on behalf of the NWO. Iran will be next on the list. Good Saudis?
Zerohedge has reported that negotiations are ongoing to free the arrested Saudis if they agree to give up about 70% of their wealth which would be somewhere around about 400 billion dollars maybe, give or take a 100 billion. That should leave them millions to continue to rape kids and be depraved degenerates in grand style.
Saudia Arabia has no choice anyway because they helped Mossad, C.I.A., and British Intelligence pull off 911. If they do not do as they are told the western banking oligarchs will blackmail the hell out of them and accuse them of 911.
So the Q take on that benefits who? The deep state. The deep state gets to look like they took out the Saudis that Clinton was affiliated with to help pizzagate. The truth is that this is probably nothing more than a turf war between Clinton/Bush and the Kushner/Trump factions.
I think Clinton seriously pissed off Trump's ego and he does not take that lightly probably. The Clinton's may receive some ass pain because they have pissed off a lot of people but they also have who knows how many people blackmailed? The Clinton/Bush cabal may be somewhat on the ropes of a waning criminal dynasty but that remains to be seen.
Gangsters abhor a vacuum where money is to be made. Brings us to Kushner. Kushner comes from a criminal Ashkenazi family. I think it was his father that was in the real estate busines, lost a turf war, got busted, and went to prison. Or maybe one of his father's brothers. Don't remember exactly. Point being, if the Clinton/Bush cabal are going to lose some of their empire there are sharks in the tank waiting to scoop it up.
And lets not forget that Kushner is sitting up there in that prime piece of real estate huge building with the 666 address. He must be fairly special to get that occult trophy.
The new Twitter stars are probably part of the larp. Or they just do not understand what is happening.
Q is announcing that Trump is taking down the NWO. It would not be announced on an image board because it would be counter productive to the effort. The Trump faction is not letting a group of people that are so psychopathic that they rape and torture children watch their coup plans on 4Chan.
The NWO is protected by NATO. NATO does not play. Also the entire global banking cartel would have to be knocked out. Gone.
The big hope is that the U.S. military has had enough of the criminals and they will take care of all this. Hmmm....good luck because the military has some pretty bad people at the top of it and is responsible for a lot of the MK Ultra type business.
Moving along somebody has to take care of these people. And this is by far not everybody that would cause trouble if you mess with their power status and money. These Jews, Ashkenazis, Vatican people are all mixed together and hidden in everything. This is not near the whole rat nest either.
Some of the credit for this post goes to @AgainstPedos for helping me find some of the players listed.
Multiple entries re Top Elite Families
The Black Nobility own and run the Vatican, SMOM, Jesuits, KOC, and La Cosa Nostra.
The European Monarchies like the British Crown are branches of Rome and they manage secret societies like the Freemasons which infiltrate government agencies and run corporations for the monarchs.
The SMOM is the top military council and it works closely with the Orders of St John ran by Protestant monarchs.
The Knights of Malta are the engineers of war.
The royal and noble bloodlines are all working together as a global crime syndicate and part of the modernized Roman Empire.
The Greek royal House of Glucksburg run the Greek fraternities and sororities and use initiates as their agents.
The British Crown controls universities like Yale and Harvard and use them for recruiting Crown agents.
Jesuits are Roman intelligence and infiltrators and use their universities for recruiting and training Vatican agents. Many Knights of Columbus are police officers, mayors, lawyers, and judges and they protect the Italian Mafia.
The Italian Mafia are enforcers for Rome involved in extortion, money laundering, murder, and drug trafficking; and they pay their dues back to the Sicilian Mafia which pay dues back to the Black Nobility.
Court blah like the Rothschild, Warburg, Walton, Wallenberg, and Dreyfus families serve the Roman Curia and Royal courtrooms like Buckingham Palace and Stockholm Palace.
The Holy See is the All Seeing Eye and operates as an intelligence network. The Latin phrase Novus Ordo Seclorum means New Order of the Ages and is on the US dollar bill and US Great Seal. The Vatican uses Latin as an official language and for documents.
The Black Nobility and other Royal Families have been concealing trillions in private banks in Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, and Switzerland. The Swiss Guard protects the Vatican.
The Swiss Cantons have been in contract with the Vatican for centuries and Switzerland is basically a Papal State.
Some top families in the Black Nobility include the Pallavicini, Colonna, Ruspoli, Sforza-Cesarini, Aldobrandini, Odescalchi, Torlonia, Gaetani, and Massimo families.
Prince Carlo Massimo and Duke Leopoldo Torlonia are running the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.
Prince Carlo Massimo is the President of the Italian Association for the Order of Malta and is the one giving the orders.
Prince Carlo of Bourbon-Two Sicilies is a top manager of the Society of Jesus.
The Jesuits are Roman intelligence and infiltrators serving the Black Nobility authorized by the Farnese family's Pope Paul III.
The Bourbon-Two Sicilies family are the continuation of the Farnese family and Farnesivs is engraved on the Jesuit's headquarters called the Gesu Church of Rome.
The Colonna family are running the Knights of Columbus and Colombo crime family. Colonna means column like Colombo and Columbus.
The Massimo and Gaetani families own and run the Gambino crime family and Philadelphia crime family. The Massimo family also own and run the Casamonica mafia clan or Roman Mafia and the Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari which still exists.
The Sforza-Cesarini family own the Stidda Mafia in Italy.
The Boncompagni-Ludovisi family run the Casalesi mafia clan which operates in their former dukedoms and also control the Bonanno crime family.
The Adragna family of Sicily run many of the N'Drangheta factions along with the Gaetani family and the House of Adragna are part owners of Los Angeles crime family which was built up by the Dragna crime bosses like Jack Dragna.
The House of Savoy own and run the Genovese crime family. Don Vito Genovese was from Naples and Prince Vittorio
Emanuele IV of Savoy is the Prince of Naples.
The Savoy and Savoy-Aosta families own and run some Camorra mafia clans in Naples too.
The Chigi-Albani family run most of the Albanian mafia like the Rudaj Organization. The Corsini, Medici, and Bonaparte families are the owners of the Union Corse or Corsican Mafia.
The House of Windsor and German noble families run and finance various Neo-Nazi cults and Nazi propaganda while they also control many of the Jewish banking families.
The House of Bourbon and Italian-Spanish noble families run most of the Mexican and South American drug cartels.
So you better get your ass off 4chan and get busy Q because you have a lot of shit to do.
Al Franken and his filmed skit about grabbing a woman's boobs is the major atrocity on Fox. Nobody gives a fuck and it was fake.
They are trotting Bill Clinton's tired ass out again but hell, he already got drug through sticking a cigar up Monica Lewinsky's you know what so its not a shock.
They don't have to do a damn thing to arrest Bill Clinton except pick from thousands of people he had killed or thousands of other crimes in the NSA database if they want to mess up Bill. If they want Bill, Bill's ass is readily available with plenty of evidence.
You do not condition the delicate feelings of the public before you handle child torturers and let children suffer. People that believe that need to rinse out their common sense because the rinsing is long overdue.
11-11 ago
<< PART I >>
History of the Jesuits From the Book "THE HISTORY OF GERMANY" by Wolfgang Menzel [In four volumes. This quote is From Volume 3 pg 1072. Book not dated but was written in the late 1800's. Menzel, Wolfgang, 1798-1873] ___________ this volume has not been scanned into archives.org yet. Volume 4 has been scanned/is in there - but I did not see anything about the jesuits in that volume. https://archive.org/details/germanyfromtheea08401gut
"The Society of Jesus was founded by Ignatius Loyola, an enthusiastic Spaniard, for penitents, who, in those heretical times, ere long made it their business to confirm the faith of the wavering, and, consequently, became the tools of Rome. Benedict XIV, named them St. Peter's Janissaries.
Their object was the restoration of unlimited hierarchical power, and they despised no means, however base, that might conduce to success, according to their celebrated maxim, "The end justifies the means."
The society was intended to form an aristocracy of talent, whose office it was to guard the avenues of knowledge against the rest of mankind; and, as a precaution against individual treachery, no member was permitted to quit the order except to take the vows of a Carthusian, by which he bound himself to silence and solitude for the rest of his days.
The heads of the society had unlimited power to remove, punish, and assassinate the members. The first vow taken by the initiated was that of unconditional obedience. A system of secret espionage pervaded the whole society; suspicion was condemnation; and the victim was sentenced to die in seclusion of starvation, as it expressly directed by Suarez, the great Jesuitical casuist.
The members were divided into classes, the highest of which, the professors, elected the head or general of the whole order, who resided at Rome. Every province of the order was under the superintendence of a pater provincialis. The higher grades were kept strictly secret from the lower classes, who were merely the blind tools of the former. The pope conferred the most extensive privileges upon the order, which was empowered to interfere everywhere with the clergy and with all other orders. -- And, in order to renew the times of the first apostles, the Jesuits sent out missionaries, who visited the most distant parts of the globe, for the purpose of converting the heathen and --- of taking possession of the New World. They brought countless treasure into Europe, by means of which they placed themselves on a firm footing and acquired immense influence at a period when money was power.
The most celebrated of these missionaries was St. Xavier, who met with a martyr's death in India. Numbers of the Jesuits shared the same fate; many, in particular Germans, were distinguished for piety and learning and by their exploration of unknown countries. Among the European Jesuits were many fervent spirits actuated by the purest zeal; many simple and poetical minds unstained by hypocrisy, for instance, Balde; many deeply learned men, sincere lovers of truth.
It would be unjust to pass a sweeping condemnation upon all the Jesuits. But the ruling spirit and the political effect of the order were immoral.
The manner in which they denied the truths brought to light during the Reformation, sought to veil them by bringing to view the weaknesses and errors of Protestantism, or to suppress them by force, cannot be justified.
The sophistry with which they still defended undeniable and long-sensible abuses was revolting to reason. The means by which they bent the powerful and wealthy to their purposes were often the most unholy.
pg1074 One of the principle objects of the Jesuits was to replace the sale of dispensations, which had fallen into bad repute since the Reformation, and which was, moreover, almost indispensable to the church. This was done by means of the lax morality of the confessional. The more luxurious court life became, the more easily did the Jesuits forgive the sins committed by the aristocracy; in order to pacify the new conscientious scruples awakened by the Reformation, they became the advocates instead of the judges of sins, from every description of which they, by their casuistry, exculpated the offender.
The Spanish Jesuits went furthest. The book of Escobar, the confessor's manual, passed through thirty-six editions, which were printed under the direction of the society and of the church. The church closed her eyes to any measures taken by the confessors, provided they made proselytes and gathered the stray sheep into the fold.
According to their casuistical system, all sins were exculpated: First, by the doctrine of probabilismus, that is, by the mildest of all possible interpretations.
A says, "Sich a sin is too horrible to be forgiven." B says, "Certainly; still it might thus be exculpated, " etc. etc. Upon this C says, "According to A's opinion it cannot be forgiven; but it can be according to B's; and as an authority is all that is requisite, and the mildest point of view is admissible, I agree with B." Secondly, By the directio intentionis, that is, by the thoughts being occupied during the performance of a bad action with an innocent object. Thus, for instance, one might bribe another or accept of a bribe and, at the same time, be merely thinking of civility or gratitude.
Thirdly, By the reservatio mentalis. It was allowable to take a false oath by voluntarily adding a mental reservation, as, for instance, a man might swear he had no money, although he had some, provided he mentally added "none to lend," etc. One might take an oath thus, "I swear (that I say here, although it is untrue) that I, " etc. or "I swear that I did not do that (a hundred years ago or a hundred miles hence), " or " I swear to do so (if I cannot think of something else)."
page 1075 Fourthly, By amphibologia, or equivocation; for instance, one can deny anything touching the French by thinking of the word "gallus" as implying a cock instead of a Gaul. Fifthly, By the intenio bona, which was the principle thing.
Strictly speaking, the only virtue required in a Jesuit was the promotion of the intentions of his order; whoever did this, merited eternal bliss, which was ever the case. The sins of the wealthy and powerful, whom it was to the interest of the order to treat with lenity, were excused on the ground of their having no intenio mala, that is, that the sin had not been committed for the sake of sinning. Thus, for instance, adultery was allowable in princes and nobles, because the marriage vow had been broken, not for the sake of committing adultery, but for the sake of another woman.
Sixthly, and lastly, By pia opera, by good works; woever honored the Jesuits, built colleges for them, gave them money, etc., whoever, in general, did good service to the Catholic church, diligently observed her ceremonies, purchased a dispensation, etc., was completely free from guilt.
Means such as these easily gained over the wealthy and the powerful. The Jesuits displayed the greatest activity at court, their maxim being to influence the flock through its leaders. They long governed all the Catholic courts of Eurpoe, sometimes as confessors or tutors to the sovereign, sometimes as coucillors and negotiators, the most talented men of their order especially devoting themselves to poitical matters; but their principal profession was that of a procurer; the secrets of the confessional rendered them masters of the weaknesses of the princes and princesses, whom they doubly flattered, by affording them opportunities to satisfy their inclinations, and, at the same time, giving them full absolution. Like the Lutheran court chaplains, they ever found means to secure the eternal salvation of the sovereign, whatever might have been his crimes. They even succeeded in creeping into Protestant courts for the purpose of converting the prince or of corrupting his councillors. It was in this manner they converted Queen Christina of Sweden, the [pg 1076] daughter of the great Gustavus Adolphus.