I saw someone comment somewhere else (then I lost it) that it would be a good idea for anyone with old issues to look back through the articles to see if anything of note is there.
A thought of my own is that such magazines might have been a way to subvert young minds. The kids sneak the magazines, see their first sexual images, then that could get tied to whatever is next to them? Trigger words, items, ideas?
I don't think that "mind control" really works like that. I mean it's pretty clear that our government has developed some means to manipulate people into behaving weirdly, but in practice I think what they do is they run a false flag on someone who is already impressionable with a combination of drugs and bullying. And then they roll the dice.
It's not like your brain has some secret receptors in it that I can "hack" or something to make you begin behaving like a robot. Can you bully people? Obviously. Manipulate people? Absolutely. But it would be difficult to get a reliable agent to go against his instincts, against his family, against his country. "Brainwashed people", and that's a terrible word for it, are unpredictable.
My point is that I don't think that this works the way that you think it does.
For the first 40 years of my 48 year life I believed what you've stated, essentially. And I've followed very fringe topics for many years.
Then I was sent "Operation Mind Control" by Walter Bowart. Springmeir had piqued my curiosity after explicitly detailing the many dozens of layers of alters in a single person and the complex relationships between each. But I doubted that such tight control and regulation of consciousness and memory could be possible. But after the Bowart book and a friend explaining that mind control war largely simple hypnosis, I changed my mind.
The final barrier for you may be related to your view of what "susceptible" to hypnosis really means. I heard one hypnotist describe how he often speaks to people who think they aren't good candidates. He said, as he talks them through why their technique doesn't work, they become deeply hypnotized.
When you hear me say "dolphin popcorn" you will awaken and have no memory of this conversation. Really? Is it that simple? Apparently so, with a little bit of other knowledge. Something to think about.
Hadn't heard of the Bowart book -- but on the internet you will find
Operation Mockingbird ...
and there are two other Operations which worked with it ...
Operation Paperclip (200,000 ex-Nazis used to found the CIA, funneled into the FBI and other
government agencies and to "hot spots" around the world to ensure the rise of the Fourth Reich),
and Operation Gladio which would ensure that only right wing governments would rise and
control government in nations over which the US had influence and control after WWII -- i.e.,
France, Italy, Germany, Japan. In Italy, the US actually resurrected the Mafia in order to ensure
the plan was carried out properly.
If you're here, I'm sure you're familiar with CIAs MKULTRA ... but I would suspect that TORTURE became recognized as the way to create new personalities based in information gained by the Catholic Church/Vatican
over the long history of their 'Crusades" and "The Inquistion" and the "Hammer of Witches."
The Vatican would have passed this information on to the Third Reich and Elites.
Organized patriarchal religions underpin Elite Patriarchy.
In turn the Nazis would have passed this info on to the OSS/CIA.
Pope Pius XII actually catapulted Hitler to power.
However, it was American Elites and International Elites who recruited Hitler -- from what
I've read from a brothel where he was a homosexual prostitute.
And, again, we see that Hitler was also severe beaten by his father as a child.
These are the kinds of men recruited by Elites.
Re HYPNOSIS ....
It would be impossible to argue that hypnosis hasn't been made a TABOO subject in the US.
Rarely mentioned or discussed any longer.
From what I've read ... Sigmund Freud's original method of the "talking therapy" was to hypnotise
the patient. However, as he began to recruit followers who would carry on the profession of
psychiatry, it turned out that a good number of them were unable to hypnotize their patients.
Therefore, hypnotism was removed as a necessity for a psychiatrist to be able to perform.
Interestingly, we still see some of this in old movies -- dramas and comedies -- one of these
was SPELLBOUND (1945) where near the end you see Peck being hypnotized.
Mind Control isn't simple hypnosis. In order to create "disassociation" or split personalities,
trauma seems to be necessary -- not only to initiate the split personalities but to maintain them.
You'll find some of the answers in Operation MKULTRA by Wiki.
Also note that the Host is generally unaware of the other personalities or what they are doing.
CIA used young children for homosexual prostitution, drug running, and for espionage/spying-blackmail.
This was all funded by Congress.
Many people who are aware of the splitting of personalities don't know that the new personalities
can also be programmed -- to speak a different language, and/or with photographic memories.
Presumably with other talents?
This is about Mind Control over populations ...
it doesn't begin and end with Mind Control over one individual -- or a few Manchurian Candidates.
pretty damn good, but allow me to pee in the bucket a little;
catholics... good call, but their methods are used for memory retention; making you forget your own insecurities and proceeding with blindness on all endeavors. but they do make tough bastards against pain, too.
mkultra is related to nazis, and so are the catholics, but because they're into trans humanism through pain. druids (british jews) were the first to recognize pain as a mechanism for inducing new states of mind. today, the more civilized among us, and those who have been to india, know that fasting and exercise are the sane person's version of self-torture to produce new states of mind. pain works, but breaks most.
freud; shit... where to start with the inversion (remember that reality isn't duality, it's an inversion. the ying yang is not a flip or reverse, it's an inversion...); so frued's words and skills were well known, but his methods were not passed on in the way that -students- where taught how to prescribe his methods. Freud used his environment, and he new lighting, mood, tonality, temperature, and -ambiance- where the true masters of his skills. he simply orchestrated materials in a way that helped him cast his spells. Midnight mass is held at midnight for many reasons; but the most important—least know reason is; at midnight, after working on the farm or in the fields—everyone is exhausted, and the power of suggestion is easiest at night, when you're fatigued. if you're a parent, consider how often your kids try to tire you patience once they learn it as a skill.
splitting personalities; everyone does it. it's a result of your life, no matter how you are raised. "we are pieces of the people we love and hate" which is why the notion of "broken to be whole" is used for rebuilding personalities on a philosophical level. mkultra is a bastardized version of the jews and catholics taking ritual/performance magic to the next level by conditioning us to openly exploit and expel all facets of our being onto video (with the help of masons, obviously as the prop builders of the world). it's a ritual with each movie... for each person. so I suspect you need to shut down too, if you're going to live on the level.
1 -- No ... Vatican invented brainwashing, especially of children:: "Get them while they're young."
It's always been a dictatorship which requires total obedience from members young and old.
90% of Germans were "Christians." And "obedience" was the problem there ... until it was
too late and any challenge to Hitler meant death.
2 --
MKULTRA is a continuation of the Nazi experiments. Experiments they actually carried out in
concentration camps, as well. Fasting and exercise aren't exactly TORTURE as carried out by Nazis...
Or by Vatican in "The Inquisition" or "The Hammer of Witches" where women they labelled "witches"
were actually burned at the stake. And again, a state of mind isn't a split personality which is quite
different. These new personalities -- Paul Bonacci was tortured resulting in 199 new personalities --
aren't something beneficial to the host. And, again, these new personalities can be programmed
to speak other languages, programmed with photographic memories -- and generally to carry out
assignments they normally wouldn't do -- such as homosexual prostitution, drug running, spying
for blackmail.
3 --
Freud originally used HYPNOSIS -- they stopped when some of those he was training were unable to hypnotize clients.
People are often also exhausted at 9am mass on Sundays -- but now they go to church at 5pm on Saturdays. :)
4 -- If you think disassociation/split personality is the same as everyday moods or upsets, you're quite wrong and you
should read something about it.
The Vatican's files hold many secrets -- presumably shared with Elites/Hitler/Nazis/Gestapo/CIA.
Every once in a while they seem to need to practice torture all over again -- as we've seen at Abu Ghraib.
They don't want the knowledge or art to die -- you can't run a dictatorship without it.
i don't think there is much to disagree with here, and most of what you stated is either a predecessor or precursor to what I mentioned. so at best, it would be arguing timelines or people at this point, which is not the point of my comment originally.
And, should have included these links and info in my response ....
Sigmund Freud studied with Charcot, in France, in 1885 and was impressed by the therapeutic potential of hypnosis for neurotic disorders. On his return to Vienna he used hypnosis to help neurotics recall disturbing events that they had apparently forgotten. As he began to develop his system of psychoanalysis, theoretical considerations,** as well as the difficulty he encountered in hypnotizing some patients, led Freud to discard hypnosis in favour of free association**.>
http://www.freudpage.info/freudhypnosis.html
Although Freud has been criticized for being an inexperienced hypnotist (Schneck,
1954), his own publications provide evidence of extensive clinical experience with
the technique of hypnosis. He probably retained it in his reservoir of clinical tools for
about a decade, from 1886 to 1896 (Strachey, 1966). The therapeutic use of hypnotic
suggestion, he reports, was his “principal instrument of work” during his first years as
a physician(Freud, 1925/1959, p.17). He then adopted Breuer’s cathartic method and
“eventually, especially after my visit to Bernheim in 1889 had taught me the limitations
of hypnotic suggestion, worked at nothing else” (Freud, 1925/1959, p.22).
frustrated because he could not hypnotize
all patients nor put them into as deep a trance as he would have liked
People who have experienced sexual abuse and/or physical or emotional abuse and/or neglect in childhood may be particularly at risk for developing a dissociative disorder. In fact, 90 percent of all people with dissociative identity disorder report at least one type of childhood abuse and/or neglect—dissociative identity disorder being the most common type of dissociation in which a person develops two or more distinct personalities.
To further support this link between trauma and dissociation, authors of a 2014 article in Clinical Psychopharmacology and Neuroscience state that people with dissociative disorders report the highest occurrence of childhood abuse and/or neglect among all psychiatric diseases.
This is a pretty astounding connection, suggesting that dissociation is the ultimate reaction to significant trauma.
CIA/MKULTRA used constant torture of young children by many means -- from radiation to electric prods and many other means of torture of these children. By no means is this torture comparable to what you're describing. (i.e., QUOTE: and those who have been to india, know that fasting and exercise are the sane person's version of self-torture to produce new states of mind. pain works, but breaks most.)
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VIrginiaPerson ago
I saw someone comment somewhere else (then I lost it) that it would be a good idea for anyone with old issues to look back through the articles to see if anything of note is there.
A thought of my own is that such magazines might have been a way to subvert young minds. The kids sneak the magazines, see their first sexual images, then that could get tied to whatever is next to them? Trigger words, items, ideas?
patriot_biz ago
I don't think that "mind control" really works like that. I mean it's pretty clear that our government has developed some means to manipulate people into behaving weirdly, but in practice I think what they do is they run a false flag on someone who is already impressionable with a combination of drugs and bullying. And then they roll the dice. It's not like your brain has some secret receptors in it that I can "hack" or something to make you begin behaving like a robot. Can you bully people? Obviously. Manipulate people? Absolutely. But it would be difficult to get a reliable agent to go against his instincts, against his family, against his country. "Brainwashed people", and that's a terrible word for it, are unpredictable.
My point is that I don't think that this works the way that you think it does.
Tyranny-News-Network ago
For the first 40 years of my 48 year life I believed what you've stated, essentially. And I've followed very fringe topics for many years.
Then I was sent "Operation Mind Control" by Walter Bowart. Springmeir had piqued my curiosity after explicitly detailing the many dozens of layers of alters in a single person and the complex relationships between each. But I doubted that such tight control and regulation of consciousness and memory could be possible. But after the Bowart book and a friend explaining that mind control war largely simple hypnosis, I changed my mind.
The final barrier for you may be related to your view of what "susceptible" to hypnosis really means. I heard one hypnotist describe how he often speaks to people who think they aren't good candidates. He said, as he talks them through why their technique doesn't work, they become deeply hypnotized.
When you hear me say "dolphin popcorn" you will awaken and have no memory of this conversation. Really? Is it that simple? Apparently so, with a little bit of other knowledge. Something to think about.
Votescam ago
Tyranny --
Hadn't heard of the Bowart book -- but on the internet you will find Operation Mockingbird ... and there are two other Operations which worked with it ... Operation Paperclip (200,000 ex-Nazis used to found the CIA, funneled into the FBI and other government agencies and to "hot spots" around the world to ensure the rise of the Fourth Reich), and Operation Gladio which would ensure that only right wing governments would rise and control government in nations over which the US had influence and control after WWII -- i.e., France, Italy, Germany, Japan. In Italy, the US actually resurrected the Mafia in order to ensure the plan was carried out properly.
If you're here, I'm sure you're familiar with CIAs MKULTRA ... but I would suspect that TORTURE became recognized as the way to create new personalities based in information gained by the Catholic Church/Vatican over the long history of their 'Crusades" and "The Inquistion" and the "Hammer of Witches."
The Vatican would have passed this information on to the Third Reich and Elites. Organized patriarchal religions underpin Elite Patriarchy. In turn the Nazis would have passed this info on to the OSS/CIA. Pope Pius XII actually catapulted Hitler to power. However, it was American Elites and International Elites who recruited Hitler -- from what I've read from a brothel where he was a homosexual prostitute.
And, again, we see that Hitler was also severe beaten by his father as a child. These are the kinds of men recruited by Elites.
Re HYPNOSIS .... It would be impossible to argue that hypnosis hasn't been made a TABOO subject in the US. Rarely mentioned or discussed any longer.
From what I've read ... Sigmund Freud's original method of the "talking therapy" was to hypnotise the patient. However, as he began to recruit followers who would carry on the profession of psychiatry, it turned out that a good number of them were unable to hypnotize their patients. Therefore, hypnotism was removed as a necessity for a psychiatrist to be able to perform. Interestingly, we still see some of this in old movies -- dramas and comedies -- one of these was SPELLBOUND (1945) where near the end you see Peck being hypnotized.
Mind Control isn't simple hypnosis. In order to create "disassociation" or split personalities, trauma seems to be necessary -- not only to initiate the split personalities but to maintain them. You'll find some of the answers in Operation MKULTRA by Wiki. Also note that the Host is generally unaware of the other personalities or what they are doing. CIA used young children for homosexual prostitution, drug running, and for espionage/spying-blackmail. This was all funded by Congress.
Many people who are aware of the splitting of personalities don't know that the new personalities can also be programmed -- to speak a different language, and/or with photographic memories. Presumably with other talents?
This is about Mind Control over populations ... it doesn't begin and end with Mind Control over one individual -- or a few Manchurian Candidates.
bonerloner ago
pretty damn good, but allow me to pee in the bucket a little;
catholics... good call, but their methods are used for memory retention; making you forget your own insecurities and proceeding with blindness on all endeavors. but they do make tough bastards against pain, too.
mkultra is related to nazis, and so are the catholics, but because they're into trans humanism through pain. druids (british jews) were the first to recognize pain as a mechanism for inducing new states of mind. today, the more civilized among us, and those who have been to india, know that fasting and exercise are the sane person's version of self-torture to produce new states of mind. pain works, but breaks most.
freud; shit... where to start with the inversion (remember that reality isn't duality, it's an inversion. the ying yang is not a flip or reverse, it's an inversion...); so frued's words and skills were well known, but his methods were not passed on in the way that -students- where taught how to prescribe his methods. Freud used his environment, and he new lighting, mood, tonality, temperature, and -ambiance- where the true masters of his skills. he simply orchestrated materials in a way that helped him cast his spells. Midnight mass is held at midnight for many reasons; but the most important—least know reason is; at midnight, after working on the farm or in the fields—everyone is exhausted, and the power of suggestion is easiest at night, when you're fatigued. if you're a parent, consider how often your kids try to tire you patience once they learn it as a skill.
splitting personalities; everyone does it. it's a result of your life, no matter how you are raised. "we are pieces of the people we love and hate" which is why the notion of "broken to be whole" is used for rebuilding personalities on a philosophical level. mkultra is a bastardized version of the jews and catholics taking ritual/performance magic to the next level by conditioning us to openly exploit and expel all facets of our being onto video (with the help of masons, obviously as the prop builders of the world). it's a ritual with each movie... for each person. so I suspect you need to shut down too, if you're going to live on the level.
they eat your personal philospher's stone
Votescam ago
Hi Bone --
1 -- No ... Vatican invented brainwashing, especially of children:: "Get them while they're young."
2 --
3 --
4 -- If you think disassociation/split personality is the same as everyday moods or upsets, you're quite wrong and you
The Vatican's files hold many secrets -- presumably shared with Elites/Hitler/Nazis/Gestapo/CIA. Every once in a while they seem to need to practice torture all over again -- as we've seen at Abu Ghraib. They don't want the knowledge or art to die -- you can't run a dictatorship without it.
bonerloner ago
i don't think there is much to disagree with here, and most of what you stated is either a predecessor or precursor to what I mentioned. so at best, it would be arguing timelines or people at this point, which is not the point of my comment originally.
Votescam ago
bone --
Actually, it reverses many of your comments.
And, should have included these links and info in my response ....
and ...
CIA/MKULTRA used constant torture of young children by many means -- from radiation to electric prods and many other means of torture of these children. By no means is this torture comparable to what you're describing. (i.e., QUOTE: and those who have been to india, know that fasting and exercise are the sane person's version of self-torture to produce new states of mind. pain works, but breaks most.)
bonerloner ago
does not reverse any of what I typed.
you're just focused on CIA exclusively, or a shill.
Votescam ago
bone --
Your original post and my reply make clear the reversals -- but I'll leave that to other readers to judge for themselves.
I'm focused on everything, including the CIA:: Catholics in Action
bonerloner ago
then you'd be looking for their boy toys. which is how they stay connected to gay community at high levels.
they don't leave the house that often, unless they've actually recruited new opsec fags.