Dressage2 ago

This screams of MK Ultra. Did you note the name? Captain Green. Of course, his name is Green just like all those doctors, Profs, etc. Green is a name/color given to MK victims as a trigger. Just like blue, red, yellow, etc.

carmencita ago

TA DA! We of like minds. MK Ultra. So very obvious to me. Yes and the name of Green. Dr. Green = Mengela too. A name used over and over. I so very much agree with all you have said. Have mentioned it a few times in here.

2impendingdoom ago

You've seen swordfish's post about MK being Milton Keynes (the town) right? Rothschild territory....https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2247507

@Dessage2

carmencita ago

You've seen swordfish's post about MK being Milton Keynes (the town) right? Rothschild territory.... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2247507 I changed the spaces...I do it too!

sarrah ago

strange they haven't named the passenger on the heli yet.

Sackajahweeda ago

I JUST SAID THAT TO MY HUB...Strange indeed...

letsdothis1 ago

This bit might be hard to grasp but, in the article :

Mr Green, who was in his 60s had taken a passenger on a 'gift' sightseeing tour' when his helicopter was hit by a Cessna 152.

I thought that the word 'gift' might be significant.... for those with a background in philosophy and education you might know about the kindergarten movement which was started by Friedrich Froebel and his fame for the 'gifts'... Well, I suddenly wondered if there was an occult background and sure enough...

The Froebel Education Method And The Third Reich

Programming Our Children : Architects of the Human Mind

From this move would spawn Kindergartens across western Europe during the remaining decade, and into the Scandinavian countries, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and India, they also took root in America, Canada, Japan, Russia, Turkey, France and Switzerland for the remainder of the 19th century. In this regard from the point 1851 and it’s banning in Prussia (Illuminati base), Froebel would become the Tavistock programme, albeit Tavistock had not been announced to the world in its current form, what was presented as the study of the effects of shell shock as Tavistock was formed in the 20th century, was the implementation of the new mind control system now in the hands of those controlling the British Crown.

A very thought provoking article.

carmencita ago

So the passenger was on board not because they bought the ticket, but because someone decided they should go and gave them a gift, how nice. Strange. Am waiting very impatiently to hear the name of this passenger. Good Find.

TrishaUK ago

This about 'Q'Anon is odd, BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE TO ME! I am usually confused about these cryptic things but Roy Potter explains and I understand. Listen and it may bring a deeper knowledge of whats going on in the physical AND spiritual. If you have not been following 'Q'Anon message all this might seem gobbledegook so I hope it does make sense to you. This guy, Roy Potter, is very knowledgeable, ANYWAY listen to it as he explains the codes etc., and what Trump is up too. Its like a massive Mystery Game. Love the bit where Trump drinks the water lol. The demons and their hosts are sweating right now! Trump Attacks NWO With Counters Of Its Own Language and Symbols - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOZgwFUEh60 ------ Meaning Of 4, 10, 20 From Q - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbHzHzqjD0w @srayzie @carmencita @2impeningdoom @Gothamgirl @Cc1914 (share if you know anyone else who has been following 'Q'Anon

Redpilled_Canadian ago

Thanks for the videos, explains a lot. Wonder if 4, 10, 20 does decipher to D J T? This all makes a lot of sense based on everything that has been happening

TrishaUK ago

Some say LDR Lynn de Rothschild I think they said. Well Monday starts the kick off according to a lot of people including Hannitys twitter:-

Sean Hannity‏Verified account https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/931677555463159808 @seanhannity Following Following @seanhannity More Tick tock..... From now into next year on many fronts!!!! Monday starts what will become an avalanche. Love to all deplorables. Tick tock!! 4:16 PM - 17 Nov 2017

Gothamgirl ago

Japenese Islands, come to mind.

Cc1914 ago

Thank you for this ! This guy knows what's up!

TrishaUK ago

True true!

Commoner ago

Trish,

I watched first video and it is excellent. The guy is spot on. Thanks so much. I am passing this on to others. Again, thanks!!!!

TrishaUK ago

I thought should be shared. :)

srayzie ago

I haven't started yet. But there seems to be meaning to his taking a drink from a (Fiji) water bottle. Plus, he wasn't coughing or anything and it was the tiniest sip. He looked into the camera with like a grin on his face. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JD2Ynt3fLpI I love it lol.

Oh_Well_ian ago

26 dead in Texas shooting.. hmm.. 26 at Sandy Hook, too!

and then the 26 dead teens in the Mediterranean the day after Texas... hmm...

My guess is Sandy Hook revelations will be the first RED PILL for the masses.

carmencita ago

6 divided by 2 = 3 Must mean something. Hmm. @srayzie

srayzie ago

I don't know how to figure all that stuff out lol

carmencita ago

Its OK. It IS very confusing. It may all boil down to MK Ultra and cloning. I have to get back to this later. Have places to be today and get ready for Thanksgiving Dinner.

srayzie ago

It seems like there's symbolism, codes and numbers connected to this evil the more I learn. It's crazy!

TrishaUK ago

Roy Potter explains this point perfectly! Man, I would be useless at giving these little subtle hints and codes at the right times, people would be going off on a totally different paths lol. Guess thats why I am just a little granny with no influence hahahaha and hes the President of the USA!

Commoner ago

yes, it is explained. Nothing is coincidence!!!

srayzie ago

Oh I would be useless too. Trust me lol.

srayzie ago

Thanks Trish! I have been following it and will definitely go look. Make sure yiu follow Tracy Beanz on youtube. She's following this very thoroughly!

https://m.youtube.com/user/tracybeanz

TrishaUK ago

Great advice I do follow her. The amazing thing about all of this is that the further on you go you find that all the reliable people you listen to online are connected! even when you didn't realise they were. I put it down to good commonsense discernment :)

srayzie ago

Yes!

carmencita ago

Will check out when I have more coffee! Thank you. Had very sentimental happening with a family pet last night and it is having it's toll on all of us. Will take days to recover or weeks. It is hard to deal with when you have other responsibilities. I am trying to keep my mind on voat as I recover for it helps.

new4now ago

lost 2 pets in 3 wks, That's when I finally signed in here

sending Faith and Strength your way

carmencita ago

Yes, it is awful, I send my Sympathy to you as well. Peace.

Blacksmith21 ago

So sorry. We all love our pets as family. God's speed.

carmencita ago

The ones that lost the cat, were in an accident yesterday, but are safe. They are sure their cat was watching over them. We are glad they are safe, but sometimes When it rains it pours.They are safe, that is good.

Cc1914 ago

Awww . I'm so sorry to hear . I well know how hard it is . Pets are family members for sure

carmencita ago

Yes, extended family too. TY.

Fsumom ago

So sorry for your loss!

carmencita ago

Thank you. It will take time. Trying to keep busy. :)

Fsumom ago

My dog died yesterday. I completely understand!

2impendingdoom ago

so sorry to hear this : (

carmencita ago

Yes, well, We were chosen by him and he was chosen by us. We only have them for a short time. So hard to let go. But now it is time to give a loving home to another homeless cat and to be a playmate for the other one. All in Good Time though. Thank you.

Dressage2 ago

Know the pain lost my 2 yr old Airedale to brain cancer two weeks ago and I still am reeling. Peace be with you and your family.

2impendingdoom ago

so sorry : (

carmencita ago

Peace be with you and family too. I know w weeks is not long enough. Thank you :)

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

Family first, carmencita. (that includes the furry members) God will send comfort in his time. God bless you and yours. We ❤ you.

carmencita ago

TY. :)

Sackajahweeda ago

Its heartbreaking I know they are better than most of our family members. I have always repeated as someone else said it first "Four legs good two legs bad"...well not all two leggers but you know....so sorry about your baby.

carmencita ago

So very true. TY. :)

Commoner ago

So sorry to hear Carmencita.

carmencita ago

Thank you. We have to be strong for the other cat for she is only a few mo. old and does not understand where her playmate is. So, another cat will be sought out soon. A Shelter Cat of course.

millennial_vulcan ago

Sorry to hear Carm x stay strong.

carmencita ago

Thank you All in good time.

turitelle ago

So sorry about your fur baby Carmencita, that's a tough one for sure. Hugs.

carmencita ago

Thank you :)

Bitchybadger ago

Sorry about your pet. I know it is hard. Critters make life better.

carmencita ago

Yes, and we all made his life better too, he was the best pet ever and never did anything wrong. Only 9 yrs. old and had lymphoma. They had just lost their other cat a few mos. ago. But they are strong. My voat work helps.

TrishaUK ago

awww thats sad 😭 Its awful, I have had a few pets over the years, its worse when the children were smaller as had to cope with their sadness too. I hope you feel better soon, always console myself with the good times, and pics and videos of course (helps later on if its too raw right now) 💗

carmencita ago

Yes, very hard, but we have each other. I was caretaker for this cat during it's illness for the owners had to work and it has hit me hard.

TrishaUK ago

Booo I love cats the most, always had cats.

carmencita ago

Cats are good for women as pets, especially if they are single for it is sometimes dangerous for them to walk dogs by themselves or when evening starts setting in. I love dogs too, but am really lazy, I could never walk them day after day. Thus we have had a cat too. This was not my pet, but someone in the family that we always visited. So I offered to sit with the pet during it's illness. 2 weeks ago I slept with him for 4 days and so I became even closer than before. Thus it has hit me hard. Part of life and remembering when ours went to Kitty Heaven :(

TrishaUK ago

Reading that was like looking in a mirror, especially the lazy walking bit lol I do not want the responsibility of cats now, espeially as I have my adult childrens cats often at my house when they go on holidays etc, and I have my grandchildren a lot so don't need any extra responsibilities of kitties at this point in time, as much as I love them, I see them daily at their homes.

carmencita ago

We can be grannies and aunties to other peoples pets. That is what I have been doing too.

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

I love dogs so much and I'd never let dumb crooks deter me from doing anything in life! That's what pepper spray and guns are for. 😈 Mwaha! However as a single lady I do have a feline because they can handle the solitude better. Don't have to let them out to go potty, they can amuse themselves, etc. I only have the one cat as it's a small condo and he is a champ about my work schedule. It just wouldn't be fair to a dog since I'm out 40+ hours a week.

carmencita ago

Yes, you are kind to consider your pet. A dog, most of them need a lot more exercise and outside time than cats. Our cat never wanted to go outside. She would run and hide when the door was opened. Never could understand the people that walk with really big dogs and they live in an area with condos and apts. These animals need leg room and running. A neighbor finally gave up his dog to a farm for he had no idea how big the dog would get. I congratulated him for doing the best thing for his animal. The needs of the pet must always come first.

ProudTruther ago

It sucks but I'm pretty sure that kitty had a quantum soul so will be the on the other side somewhere.

carmencita ago

Most def. I asked God last night to make Special Room for him up there. He was exceptional.

ScientiaPotentia ago

Accident pure coincidence........ or Successful suicide attack on an unnamed Rothschild? 18 year old Jihadi or inept stupid kid?

letsdothis1 ago

Check this out :

Earlier that day the helicopter made a trip which is listed as going to London Heathrow. But following the flight path you can see that it flew by Waddesdon Manor twice https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-jamm#f8ecac1

Archive: http://archive.is/zNVMI https://imgur.com/a/NIAMb

and the compare with: http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/GJAMM

Further, the helicopter was registered with A WOODWARD AVIATION LTD. which was only incoporated in January of this year by Alexander John Woodward. Apart from that, I can't find any information on the company.

carmencita ago

IAMDeMolay ago

Acording to a popular Uk actor, Bristol, apparently has a cloning centre.

Bristol university web page;

http://www.bris.ac.uk/alumni/alumni-stories/prominent-alumni/tv-film-and-theatre/

carmencita ago

So possibly this Woodward is connected with Bristol and why @letsdothis1 can not find anything on the Aviation Ltd? I am on the thinking of MK Ultra type of Mind Control being involved in this as well.

TrishaUK ago

This part stood out to me. 'Unmanned Aerial Vehicles' I said yesterday on someones post, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a remote 'pilot' that crashed. ie no real bodies..... I think people are going underground, literally, have you seen the houses built for the mega-rich? It is like a whole city underground. My brother, a carpenter, years ago worked on many of them. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=underground+basements+mega+rich&rlz=1C1GGRV_enGB751GB751&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1y5rXusjXAhVInRoKHcU2Be0Q_AUICigB&biw=1163&bih=563#imgrc=A_tUNKzh_nUEWM: - Inside London's mega-basements — the subterranean mansions complete with swimming pools, banquet rooms, and catwalks - http://uk.businessinsider.com/inside-londons-insanely-luxurious-basements-the-new-favourite-2016-3/#this-grade-ii-listed-mansion-near-st-james-park-in-westminster-has-had-plans-submitted-to-add-an-additional-two-storeys-underground-properties-on-this-street-typically-fetch-between-5-8-million-1

letsdothis1 ago

This was no accident.

BlowjaySimpson ago

Very deliberate Kamikaze attack on da choppa.

carmencita ago

So the attacker was in the Cessna. The Cessna did not take off until the Copter landed to pick up a passenger, and only then the Cessna took off. Then the fiery crash. Speaks volumes, yes, imo.

letsdothis1 ago

Yes.

letsdothis1 ago

The second person in the helicopter has not been named.

In the Cessna,

The other light aircraft was on a training flight with student Saavan Mundae, 18, being instructed by Jaspal Barha. Unfortunately, all four people on the aircraft were killed in the collision.

Mr Mundae, who is a student at Bucks New University was studying air transport and commercial pilot training. He died alongside instructor Jaspal Barha.

Mr Mundae, was just nine weeks into his flight training course when he died.

So is it likely that Saavan Mundae was flying the aircraft?

According to his FB page he studied Aeronautics at Kingston College and prior to that attended St. James Independent School (which seems to have a quite interesting history) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_James_Independent_Schools

I haven't got much time today, so p'haps someone wants to look into them.

In the early 1980s the London Evening Standard ran a critical series of articles focusing on the School's discipline regime and its links to the School of Economic Science.

An independent inquiry into mistreatment of pupils between 1975 and 1985 at St James' and its then sister school St Vedast's, which closed in 1985,[1] was funded by the schools and chaired by James Townend QC. The report,[2] published in January 2006, concluded that "mental and physical mistreatment" of some pupils had occurred, including "criminal assaults" by teachers, during the ten-year period considered by the inquiry. Townend's report also found that throughout this period the schools' management and governors were failing to the extent that they "were not in any real sense in charge of the Schools". In his conclusion, Townend stated that there had been "a real change of ethos and conduct of the schools" since the period of abuses he identified in his report.

On the School of Economic website the trustees are not listed: https://www.schooleconomicscience.org/about-us/

And in this financial report the names are redacted: file:///C:/Users/Nicole/Downloads/Redacted%20FSES%202015%20FINAL%20report%20and%20financial%20statements.pdf

Here are the findings of an inquiry into abuse at the school : http://stjamesinquiry.info/

here's a trustees list: http://www.ses-forums.org/viewtopic.php?t=431

Also relevant http://www.education-renaissance-trust.org.uk/work-in-progress.html

carmencita ago

After reading some of this over, especially the St. James Inquiry, I am more convinced there is Mind Control of some sort there: The Parents & Pupils Inquiry Action Group have broadly welcomed the publication of Mr James Townend QC’s Inquiry Report and its findings that there had been excessive use of corporal punishment, physical and mental mistreatment of pupils and “criminal assault” by teachers at St James and St Vedast Schools in London.

carmencita ago

@TrishaUK. Are there any names on here that you recognize, the trustees listed? Also if you could please check the names below as well, the famous people from around the world attending the school. I will check them as well, but the trustees I would not be familiar with. If you please, thank you.

ESOTERICshade ago

Are there any names on here that you recognize, the trustees listed?

The Saint- Claire Grandmasters of the Priory of Sion were the Sinclairs of Freemasonry and Scotland.

carmencita ago

I don't know much about the Priory of Sion but if connected or similar to Freemasonry, then there is concern for sure.

ESOTERICshade ago

I don't know much about the Priory of Sion but if connected or similar to Freemasonry, then there is concern for sure.

It is seriously connected.

carmencita ago

I figured. There are some serious connections I am sure to the Rothschilds and others of the Evil Cabal. just as in the Knights of Pythias, the Knights Templar, etc. All Secret Societies and what JFK wanted to rid us of.

TrishaUK ago

I will check. I just saw this post which I am busy looking at, its all about the flight crash, maybe interesting? Not sure who letsdothis1 is but may have some nuggets. I am very wary of anyone these days in case its disinfo! Helicopter pilot killed in yesterday's mid-air collision near the Rosthschild's Bucks estate has been named as Captain Mike Green. - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2248512

carmencita ago

I know. I had to read it at least twice to recover this morning. Just got up and soaking my brain with coffee. If you want to laugh some more, My husband usually makes the coffee in morning, and we were both out of it having stayed up rather late. We have one of those machines where you put the cup under it and coffee pours out, KEURIG is the name. Well we both stood there and stared at it as the coffee poured out, not realizing for some time that he had not put a cup under it and it just kept streaming out. Neither one of us caught on for quite some time. Finally I yelled The Cup The Cup! Waking up is hard.

letsdothis1 ago

Another thread from SES forum: Famous people from around the world attending the school: http://www.ses-forums.org/viewtopic.php?t=366

The Ambigous Relationship Between the SES & St James http://www.ses-forums.org/viewtopic.php?t=634

Roger Pincham was in the SES when the St James and St Vedast schools were first set up. Despite not being an active paid up member of the SES it is impossible for him to claim to be independent or be free of any conflicts of interest. Pincham is one of the people who takes a pasting in the Secret Cult for two reasons, one that he is the chairman of the board of governors of the day schools and secondly because of his involvement with the Liberal party. As a result of the secret cult Pincham left the SES presumably to carry on with his political career.

carmencita ago

What have you made of this? The famous people, I have figured that Hugh Jackman attended, but it is not clear about Travolta and Cruise, are they just listing examples or were they in attendance as well. Somewhat confusing. Also Emma Watson. I have in mind something that may have been transpiring at this school. I may be wrong, but it popped into my mind immediately. I will read some more about this.

letsdothis1 ago

Ps: Blavatsky, Theosophy and other 'new age' movements seem to be all over this.

carmencita ago

And MK Ultra is the vibe I am getting. There are def some worrisome things going on there.

letsdothis1 ago

They mentioned Travolta and Cruise because they are Scientologists and are saying that the school seems to be connected to a cult (the School of Economic Science) which is similar to Scientology. I will look into this when I have time but unfortunately I have to drag myself away to get to an appointment.

carmencita ago

I am thinking MK Ultra going on there as well. I will be looking into it some more.

TrishaUK ago

To be honest, I am not up on any of the news here, I can't take the sensationalism and lying, so I haven't watched for over a year now. I know more about the US news, only because of the internet though. I never look at David Icke as he's considred a nut job here, I don't go for all the alien stuff. But this was interesting, (sorry if this is disinfo, not sure just interesting points of view):- https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1062977762

derram ago

https://archive.fo/JCoFe | :

PICTURED: Helicopter pilot and student killed in crash | Daily Mail Online

"A helicopter pilot killed in yesterday's horror mid-air collision near the Rosthschild's Buckinghamshire estate has been named as Captain Mike Green."

'Mr Mundae, who is a student at Bucks New University was studying air transport and commercial pilot training. ', "With 390,000 visitors annually, Waddesdon Manor is one of the Trust's most visited properties.", "If you wanted a training instructor there's no one more highly qualified.", "Wreckage landed near the Rothschild family's Waddesdon Manor, 16 miles north-west of the airfield, just after midday."

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