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carmencita ago

This is very telling, from the article: " The only sign of a food establishment is the few charred aluminum cans shining in the rubble". WHAT? Again, we have proof of metal burning? Refrigeration and metal in the pizza place were all destroyed? Pretty fish, imo. Also there was a thread about Takai a few months ago about him being interviewed on TV and saying something very controversial about pedophilia. I will try to look it up.

Are_we__sure ago

The only sign of a food establishment is the few charred aluminum cans shining in the rubble". WHAT? Again, we have proof of metal burning? Refrigeration and metal in the pizza place were all destroyed?

No.

You should actually try to find out the facts before you leap to your speculation. You understand a local news article is not the same as a fire investigation report, don't you?

http://www.nbc12.com/story/36820066/massive-fire-causes-serious-damage-to-businesses-overnight

If you look at the video, you see that there is a pile of metal debris on site. The shining cans were sodas in a refridgerator and chairs are also still visible.

carmencita ago

You don't have to be a scientist or or a fire investigator to see proof that everything is gone. It clearly states there are a few charred cans in the rubble. As far as finding out the facts, I stated exactly what was in the article, not some made up fabrication. "The only sign of a food establishment is the few charred aluminum cans shining in the rubble." Your way of thinking is par with that of MSM. When given a news report they make up their own facts.

Are_we__sure ago

You claimed the article was "very telling" and that it was "fishy" WITHOUT FINDING OUT ALL the facts. You immediately jumped to speculation of proof of metal burning and you based this on a single description.

If you wanted to gather all the facts, before spouting off, you could have watched the video where the very first shot of the debris is of metal framing of the building. You would also see the metal frames of the front doors still standing, metal chairs still sitting upright.

Your way of thinking is par with that of MSM. When given a news report they make up their own facts.

Do you not understand that your comment is based on a MSM news report?

And this all based on what? A big fire occurred at shopping center therefore it must be tied into your conspiracy somehow?

carmencita ago

It is a well known fact that in order to get rid of evidence in crimes or soon to come investigations that fires are used as an erasure of that evidence. Is this for sure always. Probably not. But being that this is a Pizza Joint and given it's location in VA. where the FARM is located I think it has a strong possibility of being exactly that. Erasure of Evidence.

Are_we__sure ago

This is exactly what I was pointing out. Based on nothing other than your own suspicious imagination and prior belief in a massive conspiracy, you are trying to jam new facts into your jerry-rigged conspiracy.

And since you have zero sense of proportionality, this somehow seems reasonable to you.

For your theory to work you basically ignore all other possibilities

What do I mean by proportonality?

Virginia is 43,000 square miles. It has 8.5 million people. And because something else is located in Virginia, there's a strong possibility this fire has to do with erasure of evidence? The news reports did not mention that this fire is suspicious.

You believe that fires are used to erase evidence. OK. Does that mean every fire is someone trying to erase evidence? Of course not. You know what else you can do to erase evidence. Clean your building. This has the benefit of being cheaper since you are not burning your stuff, less noticeable and will not bring investigators come to your site. Burning a building to the ground is sure to bring investigators to your site.

So already your theory is very far from a strong possibility.

If you want to try critically thinking, here's few questions you might want to ask.

How many fires end up being arson? 1 in 100? 1 in a thousand? Even less?

How many arson fires are set to destroy evidence? 1 in 100? 1 in a thousand? Even less?

Do you see how far we are walking away from a strong possibility? If 1 in 100 fires are arson and 1 in 100 of those arson fires are caused to destroy evidence that's 1/100th of 1 percent.

So instead of your scenario being a strong possibility, your theory wind up being incorrect in 99.99% of all fires

Let's look up the actual stats.

The National Fire Prevention association said there were 1.35 million reported fires last year There were 260,000 intentional fires of which about 50,000 structural fires.

So about 3.7% of fires were intentional structural fires.
Intentional fires that were set to destroy evidence account for about 2% of intentional fires.

I believe this gives up about 1000 structural fires intended to conceal evidence. 1000 divided by 1.35 million means that 99.99% is too high

Your scenario is wrong in 99.93% of all fires and in 98% of intentional fires.

So I don't think you have a good grasp on what a strong possiblity means.