The part about a director on the set calling out her lesbianism is anti-climactic-she WAS lesbian; crude? yes, criminal? I don't think so-frank discussion is the order of the day for actors on a set, even if it was rude and cxrude
Make sure to read the second half of the article too. I do find it troubling that every single article mentions ratner first, and then later discusses the underage sexual assault. That being said, I don't think any of these victims are coming forward for attention. Abuse and harassment is rampant in this sick world. It has affected me deeply. There's never a plus side 6o coming forward -- quite the opposite
I'm not trivializing serious sexual harassment, but I want to make sure the subject of Government Sponsored Sex Trafficking Pedophile Rings are not confused with typical sexual harassment/pimps & prostitution-the PTB are attempting to diffuse Pizzagate with these very tactics, in fact Voat has overwhelmingly steered in this very direction over the last year-the acts involved in Pizzagate go far beyond the norm for sick behaviour
I know they do, but also this all occurs on a spectrum. No black and white. For example, human trafficking doesn't always involve chains. The line between pimps and sex traffickers is far from a clear one. "Normal prostitution " is often darker and more organized than people realize . So much abuse. And it seems easy for others to downplay what victims have been through, for example, Ellen page says she was sexually harassed at 16, but she also says she was sexually Assaulted by another filmmaker at age 16, which is much more serious. I have been through abuse and harassment and am traumatized from both. Someone "grabbing someone's ass " might not seem like a big deal, but from the victims side, he or she may never be able to let a person walk behind then, ever again, without looking back and moving and making sure another nonconsentual grab cannot occur and leave its lifelong imprint. nightmares galore
No-I do not think grabbing someone's as is a big thing-in today's society we have allowed the leftist nazis to create a ridiculous environment where typical human behavior is criminalized-a guy cannot avoid many less-than-honorable women attack him over the slightest provocation-I don't buy it and I wont support that kind of societal nonsense;
however you make a good point about the overlap of organized prostitution, their interconnectedness, etc., point well made,
they however not the same, or on the same level, Pizzagate involves the planet's elite, most powerful syndicates, families, government institutions that provide top level support, manpower, unlimited resources, secrecy, cover behind bought and paid for judges, cops, politicians at the highest level,
and the crimes are the most heinious, involving the most sacred and vulnerable members of our society
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sunajAeon ago
The part about a director on the set calling out her lesbianism is anti-climactic-she WAS lesbian; crude? yes, criminal? I don't think so-frank discussion is the order of the day for actors on a set, even if it was rude and cxrude
3141592653 ago
Make sure to read the second half of the article too. I do find it troubling that every single article mentions ratner first, and then later discusses the underage sexual assault. That being said, I don't think any of these victims are coming forward for attention. Abuse and harassment is rampant in this sick world. It has affected me deeply. There's never a plus side 6o coming forward -- quite the opposite
sunajAeon ago
I'm not trivializing serious sexual harassment, but I want to make sure the subject of Government Sponsored Sex Trafficking Pedophile Rings are not confused with typical sexual harassment/pimps & prostitution-the PTB are attempting to diffuse Pizzagate with these very tactics, in fact Voat has overwhelmingly steered in this very direction over the last year-the acts involved in Pizzagate go far beyond the norm for sick behaviour
3141592653 ago
I know they do, but also this all occurs on a spectrum. No black and white. For example, human trafficking doesn't always involve chains. The line between pimps and sex traffickers is far from a clear one. "Normal prostitution " is often darker and more organized than people realize . So much abuse. And it seems easy for others to downplay what victims have been through, for example, Ellen page says she was sexually harassed at 16, but she also says she was sexually Assaulted by another filmmaker at age 16, which is much more serious. I have been through abuse and harassment and am traumatized from both. Someone "grabbing someone's ass " might not seem like a big deal, but from the victims side, he or she may never be able to let a person walk behind then, ever again, without looking back and moving and making sure another nonconsentual grab cannot occur and leave its lifelong imprint. nightmares galore
sunajAeon ago
No-I do not think grabbing someone's as is a big thing-in today's society we have allowed the leftist nazis to create a ridiculous environment where typical human behavior is criminalized-a guy cannot avoid many less-than-honorable women attack him over the slightest provocation-I don't buy it and I wont support that kind of societal nonsense; however you make a good point about the overlap of organized prostitution, their interconnectedness, etc., point well made, they however not the same, or on the same level, Pizzagate involves the planet's elite, most powerful syndicates, families, government institutions that provide top level support, manpower, unlimited resources, secrecy, cover behind bought and paid for judges, cops, politicians at the highest level, and the crimes are the most heinious, involving the most sacred and vulnerable members of our society