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Votescam ago

The_Savant --

Obviously, the study is garbage --

But your comments here seem just as unreal ...

I would argue that this is far more prevalent in constructed leftist beliefs such as the illusion of privilege and the wage gap

Can you explain how you can ignore Elitism? Or the fact that Our Founders actually created Elite Patriarchy in total betrayal of the citizens of this nation, endowing them with land grants, giving them immense influence and control over our "people's" government, the nation's wealth and natural resources. In fact, that was the FIRST redistribution of wealth from the public to Elites.

And how is the wage gap between men and women an "illusion" ... until the early 70's most women were still making only 50% of what males were making for the same work. And currently, it's still averaging something like only 78%.

but even with all external factors have been adjusted for, a gender pay gap generally still exists.[1][2][3] Unadjusted pay gaps are much higher. In the United States, for example the unadjusted average female's annual salary has commonly been cited as being 78% of the average male salary.[4]> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap

Consider also that many women who retired in the 90's and 2000 were women whose pensions and Social Security checks still reflect that discrimination. Many women, in fact, who retired in those years, don't have private retirement benefits because they interrupted their working years to care for children.

DomKeyhote ago

The problem is that even if it were proven to be more beneficial for all you wouldn't want to admit that men are more productive workers and women better nurturers of children.

Luckily we will simply pay women cash incentives to stay home and stop crowding men out of jobs, and they will naturally prefer it once more.

Soon we will achieve a four-per-woman birth rate.

This is precisely what was achieved by the greatest leader of modern times and how.

Votescam ago

How is male-domination of any part of society "beneficial for all".....?????

Nor are men "more productive workers" .... in fact, wherever women work they are highly valued. And that included their history of production during the War Years.
That was also true of their military service. They also find that female police officers bring assets to the work which results in more peaceable settlement of conflicts and less conflicts.

I'll agree that NATURE recognizes women as the more reliable gender in giving females the major part of responsibility for reproduction and child care.

And what is this ...

Luckily we will simply pay women cash incentives to stay home and stop crowding men out of jobs, and they will naturally prefer it once more. Soon we will achieve a four-per-woman birth rate.

More Trump male-supremacist insanity?

Isn't he busy enough trying to deny that male delusion and the Industrial Revolution created Global Warming which is pretty close to destroy our environment and all humanity?

As for child bearing -- also known as creating LABOR for Elites -- I think you've missed that women are having children by the 5's, 6's, and 7's now... due to Fertility treatments. Why is that happening? Because men are losing the ability to produce viable sperm. Rather than acknowledging that problem and treating men ... the solution was to go around the problem and fertilize the eggs with accumulated sperm.

Men have been working on the artificial womb since time began ... the fact that women have the power to create life and they don't is the reason for their paranoia and hatred of women and Nature.

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

"Homosexual males are 100X LESS likely to sexually abuse a child than a heterosexual male. "

Don't make up statistics. Or if you must fabricate, at least do a better job. After reading that I rolled my eyes so hard they almost got stuck that way.

I feel like you reaaaally hate straight white males. You're like a female donkeyhote, only his scapegoat is the Jews. Seems like y'all deserve one another.

srayzie ago

She's a crazy broad. I've had bad arguments with her. She HATES men. A conversation between her and the real donkeyhote would be really entertaining LOL 😂

Votescam ago

eucalyptus --

I've posted the study probably 50X here -- so you're making clear that you don't really read posts -- mine or anyone's?

Also, you should be aware that INCEST goes back forever .... Father sexual abuse of daughter -- or Step-father sexual abuse of daughter ... Females are the most common victims of incest, but also happens to males ... about 12%.

Also very common among other males in families - by brothers who sexually abuse sisters and presumably brothers.

Also, pedophilia is carried out by MALES in families, including fathers, grandfather, uncles, male cousins, brothers -- and male friends of the family.

Here ya go ....

"Focus on the Facts" -- Sean Cahill, PH.D**>

A 1998 Study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual.

Research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are less likely than heterosexual to sexually abuse children.

Perhaps the most egregious and damaging claim promulgated by anti-gay groups is the claim that homosexuality is intrinsically linked to pedophilia and child sexual abuse. The social science research on sexual orientation and child sexual abuse clearly disproves the claim that homosexuals are more likely to molest children.
A 1998 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of pedophiles are men, and 95% of these individuals are heterosexual. One researcher explained this statistic by noting, "Gay men desire consensual sexual relations with other adult men. Pedophiles are usually adult men who are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children. They are rarely sexually attracted to other adults. In fact, research has indicated that gay men and lesbians are LESS likely than heterosexuals to sexually abuse children. Two studies that examined the sexual orientation of convicted child molesters found that less than 1% in one study and 0% in the other were lesbian or gay. One psychologist reviewed the existing social science literature on the relationship between sexuality and child sexual abuse and found that "a gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children." Further, "cases of perpetration of sexual behavior with a pre-pubescent child by an adult lesbian are virtually nonexistent."

Gay rights activists, like all advocates for children's welfare, oppose child sexual abuse and support equitable age of consent laws that help prevent and punish such abuse. At least 110,000 children are waiting to be adopted in the US. Approximately 588,00 children are currently in foster care. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need. Children who remain in foster care for much of their childhood, as do tens of thousands of American children, are more likely to have emotional problems. Some children in foster care live in 20 or more homes by the time they reach the age of 18. Barring gay men and lesbians from adopting or foster parenting is not simply unjust and unethical; it also decreases the number of potential suitable homes for children in need. Research shows that children raised by gay and lesbian parents are not disadvantaged vis-a-vis their peers raised by heterosexual parents. Footnote 65 -- p.123

A review of 352 medical records of children evaluated for sexual abuse during a 12-month period at a Denver children's hospital found that less than 1% had been abused by a gay man or a lesbian. Of 269 adult perpetrators of child abuse identified among the 352 cases of abuse, only two were gay or lesbian. The vast majority of the children in the study (82%) "were suspected of being abused by a man or a woman who was, or had been, in a heterosexual relationship with a relative of the child." And the review concluded that in this sample, " a child's risk of being molested by his or her relative's heterosexual partner is over 100X greater [than the risk of being molested] by someone who might be identifiable as being homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual."
Jenny, C., and Roesler, T.A. (1994) Are children at risk for sexual abuse by homosexuals? Pediatrics. 94(1).p.44.

In an earlier study of convicted male child molesters in Massachusetts, none of the 175 men were found to have an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation or to be primarily attracted to other adult men. Groth, A.N., and Birnbaum, H.J. (1978).

Adult sexual orientation and attraction to underage persons.
Archives of Sexual Behavior.7(3).pp.175-181. Also : The right-wing "Family Research Council" notes/confirms findings that "almost all child sexual abuse is committed by men."

ESOTERICshade ago

votescam got that ass kicked again. we will keep kicking your ass too scum.

Votescam ago

Eso --

The level of your debate makes everyone tremble in fear -- of your ignorance.

srayzie ago

Let me give you an example of why your way of thinking is so screwed up. My MOTHER left my dad, myself and my siblings when I was 10. Me and my brothers were all separated. If it were not for my DAD, I would have gone to foster care.

My dad had a great paying job, but he had to work out of town Monday thru Friday and could only be home on the weekends. He did that to take care of his family. So, when my selfish mom up and chose to fuck everyone of our lives up and left, my dad quit that great paying job. He left it all behind so he could take care of ME.

He had to start everything over. Him and I had to live in a motor home for a couple of years as he built his life back up, started his own business and got a house. All of that while he himself was devastated over what his wife did to us. While living a couple of years in a motor home, where life was really hard, he never gave me up and decided to go back to his job. He stuck it out until he started his own business and bought us a house. When I was older, I asked him why he didn't just have me stay at my grandma's (his mom who was the only female there for me). He said because I was his daughter. I was HIS responsibility. What a stand up guy!

He was my mom and dad and one of the most loving greatest people I've ever met in my life. I had to go to him for all things female related. He would do the best he could to figure it out or call my grandma for help. My dad never laid a hand on me. In fact, when I hit puberty and started developing breasts, he told me that it wasn't appropriate for me to sleep in bed with him anymore and I cried. There was only 1 bed in the motorhome. But now I see why and how he was being appropriate.

When his mom got too old to take care of herself, he built a room and bathroom onto our house and would carry her to and from the bathroom, to bed to the living room, etc.. He would doctor her foot daily and have to get up in the middle of the night to care for her.

My dad fed the homeless, never said a curse word, and if one of his friends cussed, he would tell them to watch their mouth in front of his daughter because she's a young lady. He was very respectful to women. I never heard him yell out of anger.

It was my mom who was absent, in and out of prison and a drug addict! It was my mom who would hurt us and call us names. It was my mom who, on the rare occasion I stayed the night with her, would be so drugged out of her mind that she couldn't even communicate. It was my mom who would take me to parties at 12 where I was offered cocaine, I would be so scared.

Later on when I found my husband, I found someone that was just as loving. Someone that is good and I trust 100% around children. He's a better person than I am by far. He was molested when he was 5 and 6. Terrible I know. You talk about that a lot. But, guess what? He was being molested by a WOMAN.

Other than one grandma, the ones in my life that are good. loving, and respectful people have been men. My brother is amazing.

So I am so sick of your man bashing and acting like they're all aggressive and such sick pedophiles. I'm sorry if something happened to you when you were young. But all the things I've read from you for months now, where you praise gay men and trannies, and give all your ridiculous studies trying to prove how much less likely they are to to rape than regular men is getting OLD!

I don't want your idiotic reply full of studies to contradict my story. You are going to be a man hater no matter what. But you irritate the fuck out of many people here with your warped way of thinking. These Satanist that are abusing kids are women too. More than half of the people on this board are men! Most care about children and some would get upset and tell other men off here when females would be called cunts and bitches or if they were being disrespected. Not all men are sick and evil so get that thru your head!

@eucalyptus_spearmint @Bopper @ 2impendingdoom @Carmencita @ESOTERICshade

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

"But all the things I've read from you for months now, where you praise gay men and trannies, and give all your ridiculous studies trying to prove how much less likely they are to to rape than regular men is getting OLD! "

also, she clearly hasn't taken the time to watch An Open Secret. 😷

srayzie ago

I know!

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

srayzie, I am thankful for the good, upstanding Christian man that raised you to be the woman you are today. hug Your story was a blessing to read. Thank you for sharing it!

srayzie ago

Awww thank you ❤️

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

I want to find a man like that!

srayzie ago

Awww

Votescam ago

sray --

Truly sad to hear that your mother was a drug addict .... and very happy to hear that your Dad was a good guy who cared for you.

It was my mom who was absent, in and out of prison and a drug addict! It was my mom who would hurt us and call us names. It was my mom who, on the rare occasion I stayed the night with her, would be so drugged out of her mind that she couldn't even communicate. It was my mom who would take me to parties at 12 where I was offered cocaine, I would be so scared.

So are many men good fathers and caring human beings.

But that doesn't change science or reality about what other men do.

Yes, there are women, as well, who sexually abuse children -- most often when they are under the influence of a heterosexual male.
Catholic nuns, for instance. And, yes, while females are the majority of the victims, males are also victims of sexual abuse -- about 12%. Young males are also sex trafficked.

I don't want your idiotic reply full of studies to contradict my story>

That's certainly clear, but your personal story doesn't contradict science/studies, either.

You have only to look at current news to see females beginning to make known their sexual abuse by very powerful men -- Harvey Weinstein, for one. His brother has also been accused of sexual harassment/abuse. And more and more women keep coming forward.

Same was true of Bill Cosby.

THAT doesn't make your story about your Dad untrue -- but neither does it make the studies on sexual abuse of children and who does it untrue, either.

ESOTERICshade ago

that was a good ass kickin sprayzie. @votescam is part of the luciferian infection.

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

Agreed. It's sad. I wanted to see the good in her, but she is too divisive. Cares way more about pushing her personal hatred than the kids, if her body of work is anything to go by. (and it is)

srayzie ago

Thank you. We should be hating pedophiles and Satanists. Not a whole gender.

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

Yes, we know men are more sexually aggressive, what of it? Also not impressed by the study. 350 kids at a Denver children's hospital in the 90s before people were coming out in droves? That is an old study! Honestly votescam, what do you want? To rid the world of hetero men? For everyone to be gay? Btw, I sense a distinctly neopagan vibe from you. They love to drone on about "women creating life" and how men are "jealous, fearful" of this ability. How many virgin females do you know of that give birth? It takes two.

Votescam ago

eucalyptus --

Yes, we know men are more sexually aggressive, what of it?

So you're telling us that sums up who YOU are ... right.

And your attitude on male sexual harassment of women and/or rape.

Trust you'll be sure to repeat that to any female you might come across in business or personal life.

Also not impressed by the study>

Why would you be ... ?

But, the Family Research Council, the right wing women's organization hasn't told anyone they've changed their minds about the findings: ** i.e., "that almost all child sexual abuse is committed by men."**

No one gets into this world except through the body of a woman -- that includes you. Presumably some woman cared for you, maybe even loved you. Despite the violence of some men in their war on women, women love men. We love them as children and care for them. They are our lovers and partners. We love our sons and support them as we love and support our daughters.

It no longer takes "two" to create a live -- in fact it was always true that a man could spill his seed on the group, into a cup, or freeze it -- and he doesn't even have to be present -- and I think men have always known that.
And it scares hell out of them. If that's what the Native Americans say ... good for them ... very wise/insightful.

Women are also the majority gender on the planet -- despite efforts by patriarchy which still continue on to maim and handicap and murder them

The women's revolution against male violence continues on in love.

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

I meant only that anyone can look at the world and see that men are more aggressive. It's called testosterone, madam. I did not condone rape. That aggression can be directed into healthy avenues like sports, a hobby, care of one's family or nation. Men are not simply the rapists you envision. They are our sons, our brothers, our fathers, our boyfriends, our husbands, and our friends! They protect us! It's disgusting to see you so prejudiced against HALF THE PLANET! Your attitude is foolish and dangerous. I pray you wake up.

ESOTERICshade ago

votescam is trying to start a class war between men and women instead of going after the behavior of a few bad apples. Its a Social Justice Warrior luciferian trick. @srayzie

Meanwhile her and her ilk are promoting every type of depravity they can think of. right @votescam?

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

Promoting depravity? Is she? Honestly I haven't noticed that.. 😐 Whaddya mean?

Votescam ago

I guess Burning women at the stake and the Witch Hunts - the Hammer of Witches -- weren't "starting a class war between men and women" ....

Same for Our Founders proclaiming "all are equal" while creating an Elite Patriarchy ...

Nice to let us know that you're experienced in "Warrior Luciferian tricks" ...

ESOTERICshade ago

naaaahhh, i'm just smart enough to spot your philosophy. I can see you very clearly. I am what you fear most.

Votescam ago

Trying to project your own paranoia and fears onto someone else isn't debate.

Try answering the questions, if you're smart enough.

ESOTERICshade ago

Toying with career shills is too boring. Go nazi hunting somewhere and amuse yourself. Good nite.

Votescam ago

Or maybe you're not smart enough to answer...

We don't have to look far for "Nazis" and "White Supremacists" here, they crawl out when the lights come on.

Nite --

ESOTERICshade ago

We don't have to look far for "Nazis" and "White Supremacists" here, they crawl out when the lights come on.

You racist, homophobic, bigots are so not sneaky. You hate white men, heterosexuals, and Christians. But, you are fighting for equality!!! You people are a sick joke.

Votescam ago

ESO --

Each of your responses shows us more of your ugly thinking and that's to be appreciated.

"Speak so we may know you."

ESOTERICshade ago

votescam comes forth with the threats. bout time you got around to that.

Votescam ago

ESO --

Wow -- you don't even have the intelligence to understand the meaning of my post to you ...

What I was alerting you to is the fact that your own ugly thinking and comments work against you.

Stuff like this ...

You racist, homophobic, bigots are so not sneaky. You hate white men, heterosexuals, and Christians. But, you are fighting for equality!!! You people are a sick joke.

And the meaning of my quote --

"Speak so we may know you."

Also means that the ugly ideas and thinking that you post makes clear who you are and it isn't very attractive.

ESOTERICshade ago

You're a terrible shill, which is why you catch so much flack. Also when you promote the genital mutilation of children it makes you a monster. That would be you. That is why you people hide. Some of us can see you. When we tell you in person to your face that we can see you your first instinct is to run. People like you have no shame.

Votescam ago

You need mental health care ...

ESOTERICshade ago

You don't know the half of what I understand about you and how I really feel about it, I can assure you of that.

Votescam ago

It's become embarrassing to even respond to you.

Get some help.

ESOTERICshade ago

No shit sherlock. Cockroaches hate sunlight.

srayzie ago

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Votescam ago

eucalyptus --

There can be many reasons for the violence we see from males which is what we're talking about -- animal-eating may be one of the causes.

Aggression is much more that competitiveness ... much more than athleticism .... and when males are asked to fight for their country that is one thing ... fighting for a corrupt government is another as we saw in Vietnam and today's illegal wars of aggression. (There's that word again.)

No one wants to have to expect anyone to be "aggressive" toward or against them. It's a negative.

And you've found it necessary to distort my words showing female love for and care for our sons, brothers, husband just as we care for our female children and relations.

Women also protect our nation ... there's an old saying that war is really a war on women and children. The front lines are no more.

Rape is not sex ... it's about power and domination. We have more than 200,000 male-on-male rapes in our prisons every year. And when these male rapists are released from prison one of the first things they do is to "rape a woman to prove their manhood."

It is males who have turned the world upside down with their violence.

eucalyptus_spearmint ago

Then you may want to think about the way you come across to people. I do not have to be educated about the difference between rape and sex, madam. And may I just be honest? I have grown extremely weary of you. When I see your nickname I groan inwardly and roll my eyes. I'm not alone in that. @srayzie

Votescam ago

Maybe you're weary of your own posts which fail completely to resemble debate or even basic response.

If I make "White-supremacists" and "anti-Semitists" here groan inwardly and roll their eyes, then good for me!

srayzie ago

Yep

srayzie ago

She also believes that partial birth abortion of a full term baby is ok and always brings up Catholics as if anyone she talks to is catholic.