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waxdino ago

atheist and agnostic just put aside their philosophical arguments long enough to realise that something about PG is real enough for them to repeat these behaviours for THOUSANDS of years.

Ok this is the second time in a couple days that someone has implied that not being religious prevents one from believing p-gate is real. When did that become an argument? I don't see what one has to do with the other.

Is the argument here, if you aren't religious it's time to get religious because whatever god is the only way to stop this?

I believe and know that they believe in what they are doing, they believe they are doing Satan's bidding, but that doesn't mean the only way to overcome it is to believe in it, or the other side of the coin myself.

If you try to bring religion into it on a universal level, this effort to stop it will continue to fail. It really needs to be a broader "us vs them" than "theists vs non."

Not to digress, but that's why being on voat everyday gives me little hope in us succeeding. We absolutely can not stop the powers that be unless we all band together, but there are people here, that they think it's white vs everyone else. How the fuck will that succeed? Talking out both sides of their mouths, "Oh you've been brainwashed, goyim!" while buying directly into the division tactics that have thrust upon us to assure we'll never unite to overcome the evil reigning the world.

That's what I also think of, "you can't beat Satanist unless you believe in God..." That's personal. If that is your path to believing it and trying to overcome it, good for you. And my all means, speak your mind. But if you try to hard to change minds or say it's the only path... We will continue to fail in this effort.

pizza-party-pooper ago

@waxdino

Ok this is the second time in a couple days that someone has implied that not being religious prevents one from believing p-gate is real. When did that become an argument? I don't see what one has to do with the other.

This is a reality I'm living right now. I can't tell you the number of people that live around me that disbelieve this could happen amongst real people. I'm hearing that I don't believe in this and It's not in my backyard, so I don't believe it. Some people still actually believe it's a story made up by the right to depose Hillary. I kid you not. All of these folks have one thing in common. They all claim to be athiests/agnostics and give me long tirades how this isn't happening because it's not being covered by mainstream news and because satan doesn't exist I'm just spouting crazy-talk. I'm sure you can feel how annoying that is, right?

I'm not trying to make this a religious fight. They did that. So by acknowledging this we can find better information from more knowledgeable people, what it really is they are trying to extinguish with their sacrifices.

I'm also not trying to divide people. Just get more heads recognizing the gestalt of the problem. Anybody concerned about this is worth getting the right info to. We really are in this together. We just need to find individual ways to attack this. We have more than enough individuals. We just need some inspiration. And to strike while the iron is hot.

waxdino ago

I think that associating it to non-theism is something you did on your own, though. Even in the example you gave, you state they think it's made up to trash Hillary and it would be covered by msm if true- that sounds like run of the mill brainwashing to me. What does it have to do with religious beliefs?

Don't you think millions of Christians think that same way? No one in my family beliefs p-gate, and they are all Christians. Fact. So should I jump to the conclusion that we need to figure out how to get Christians to realize it's true? That's exactly what you did with atheism.

Everyone needs to break free from the brainwashing.

pizza-party-pooper ago

I jump to the conclusion that we need to figure out how to get Christians to realize it's true?

Actually, yes. It's what I'm doing right now as well.

Everyone needs to break free from the brainwashing. and yes,