https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Timothy+Charles+Holmseth+haleigh+cummings&view=detail&mid=754D3355A847A1F39F24754D3355A847A1F39F24&FORM=VIRE
This is related to PG in that the reporter being interviewed quotes Craig Sawyer 5:42
“They’re never going to be able to stop this epidemic…You know, with what they’re doing to children..They’re never going to be able to kick in enough doors..So what we need to do is to compromise their operations. What kind of operations? Satanic ones.
Can we have a dialogue about that here? the Weinstein “bone” that has been thrown has accomplished what they wanted: a redirection away from the organised operations that are kidnapping, raping, torturing and murdering children in service to what most people know as satan. (Please don't forget the spirit cooking crap)
We’ve got REAMS of circumstantial evidence to that fact, from this interview, to Dave McGowans “Programmed to Kill” and “weird scenes from the Canyon” that there is documented evidence for an argument of satanic infiltration. Satanism is by nature a secret society. Therefore it’s activities are going to be managed to conceal, redirect and downright lie (fake news, anyone?) people into moving away from the truth of their true purpose.
I would so love to see people that are atheist and agnostic just put aside their philosophical arguments long enough to realise that something about PG is real enough for them to repeat these behaviours for THOUSANDS of years. That’s right, I said it. So can we get to work on the only thing that matters: how to prevent these sickos continuing what they’re doing?
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waxdino ago
Ok this is the second time in a couple days that someone has implied that not being religious prevents one from believing p-gate is real. When did that become an argument? I don't see what one has to do with the other.
Is the argument here, if you aren't religious it's time to get religious because whatever god is the only way to stop this?
I believe and know that they believe in what they are doing, they believe they are doing Satan's bidding, but that doesn't mean the only way to overcome it is to believe in it, or the other side of the coin myself.
If you try to bring religion into it on a universal level, this effort to stop it will continue to fail. It really needs to be a broader "us vs them" than "theists vs non."
Not to digress, but that's why being on voat everyday gives me little hope in us succeeding. We absolutely can not stop the powers that be unless we all band together, but there are people here, that they think it's white vs everyone else. How the fuck will that succeed? Talking out both sides of their mouths, "Oh you've been brainwashed, goyim!" while buying directly into the division tactics that have thrust upon us to assure we'll never unite to overcome the evil reigning the world.
That's what I also think of, "you can't beat Satanist unless you believe in God..." That's personal. If that is your path to believing it and trying to overcome it, good for you. And my all means, speak your mind. But if you try to hard to change minds or say it's the only path... We will continue to fail in this effort.
pizza-party-pooper ago
@waxdino
This is a reality I'm living right now. I can't tell you the number of people that live around me that disbelieve this could happen amongst real people. I'm hearing that I don't believe in this and It's not in my backyard, so I don't believe it. Some people still actually believe it's a story made up by the right to depose Hillary. I kid you not. All of these folks have one thing in common. They all claim to be athiests/agnostics and give me long tirades how this isn't happening because it's not being covered by mainstream news and because satan doesn't exist I'm just spouting crazy-talk. I'm sure you can feel how annoying that is, right?
I'm not trying to make this a religious fight. They did that. So by acknowledging this we can find better information from more knowledgeable people, what it really is they are trying to extinguish with their sacrifices.
I'm also not trying to divide people. Just get more heads recognizing the gestalt of the problem. Anybody concerned about this is worth getting the right info to. We really are in this together. We just need to find individual ways to attack this. We have more than enough individuals. We just need some inspiration. And to strike while the iron is hot.
SoldierofLight ago
But the problem with this post is that you did a bait and switch.
Your title (paraphrasing here) is how can we stop them from torturing, raping, murdering the children? but the context of your post is, We can't stop them until or unless you acknowledge there is a God and they're Satanists.
And then you say, "I'm not trying to make this a religious fight."
As a result, the comments are a discourse on atheism vs. believers.
pizza-party-pooper ago
@SoldierofLight It is ironic that you call the title a bait and switch, as this is the actual tactic they are using. Their doctrine requires that they expose some of what they are doing so that the subsequent public silence constitutes consent. They bait us with lurid details such as spirit cooking and Thelemic ritual deaths (such as the West Memphis Three/The Doutreaux affair/The Lost Prophets OTO affiliations) and then when citizen researchers are allowed to show anything to the general public it is switched for the sanitized version removing the component that gave credence to the MO for the deaths: Satanism/Luciferianism/Thelema ad nauseum. If we keep ignoring the reason for the deaths (sacrifices), we will run out of ways to prevent them by avoiding the truth. We can't fight lies with denial. No bait and switch. It's a call to action.
SoldierofLight ago
Understood. But perhaps a more descriptive title would have mentioned the Satanic aspect. I absolutely agree that we need to call them out on what they're really doing and their true motivations, but as I'm reading the thread it seems more like you're saying investigators can't really fight/research this if they don't believe in God. If that's not what you're saying, perhaps it might switch the focus back to where you intended it-- a call to action.
My personal frustration is that if I go off the script here in Voat I'm at risk for being called a shill when really all I'm trying to do is focus on the larger picture. I believe that everything is connected and the horrors are worse than even many of use here imagine. I also believe you and I probably agree more than disagree.