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In_Umbris ago

Did I miss something? The so-called, purported 'evidence' of CIA trafficking in this instance dates from 1987. That would be FORTY YEARS AGO!! The original poster needs to skip the media overstatement and retitle his post. I suggest:

Let's not forget the past: a discussion of possible CIA involvement in The Finders in 1987

new4now ago

And the CIA stopped MK Ultra, smh, the CIA is the middleman in everything

In_Umbris ago

I hate to burst your bubble, but Project MkUltra was late 1950s to 1960s and indicates little more than a proclivity to indulge in 'extreme techniques of mind control' at a time when US school kids practiced hiding under their desks. Reports of children being involved in the Mk-activities are few and far between, but there is enough to reasonably say the CIA used kids in several offshoot projects (you might look into Fort Meade--just saying). If the CIA does one thing well, it is clean up the mess it leaves behind. That is a joke, btw.

Richard Helms supposedly had all CIA files destroyed in 1973. That would be 45 years +/- ago. What remains in the 'public domain' are a few scattered documents and people who claim to be 'subjects.' And a lot of fake stuff to distract and feed confirmation biases! What we do not have is 21st century evidence of MkUltra and any involvemnt in pizzagate/edogate. THAT is what is needed, NOT ancient history.

For the record, your connection of the CIA and MkUltra does not necessarly mean they are the middleman in everything, nowadays. Yes, they play a big role, but there are others, IMHO who are far more dangerous.

AgainstPedos ago

I was just asked for more info on a MK Ultra type summer camp for the sons of military families in WI on a Lake where there are ancient relics. My post on the oddities of Rancine jogged his memory.

Too many psychiatrist reports from around the country report the exact same thing with multiple clients It's far, far more widespread than has ever been reported. Who would want to come forward and risk being considered "crazy?" Don't you realize you'd almost totally wreck your chances of finding a romantic partner leastwise a spouse willing to have kids with you? Being sexually molested when young is still EXTREMELY shameful for most to reveal. We have a "blame the victim" culture. Or a "it happened a long time ago." Forget about it.

Did you know that a majority of those who've gone through a very brief concentration camp type experience anywhere in the world (China, Russia, South America) at any age or have seen a parent or loved one arrested in front of them will never, ever be willing to discuss their extreme trauma? So many who've seen warfare, any type of armed shooting, or gang shooting won't ever discuss it either.