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Are_we_sure ago

My friend, you still don't understand what you are examining here. Russian Adoptions is now and always has meant, dropping sanctions against Russia. Putin hates these sanctions and getting them lifted is practically his number one foreign policy concern.

Why does he hate them? Because Sanctions are working.

  1. They have hit the Russian economy hard at the same time oil prices are way down creating a double whammy. As a result in 2016 Russia had a recession about a third as deep as the recession following the financial crisis of 2008-2009 https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/2017/07/25/SANCTIONS%20IMPACT%20ECONOMY.JPG

  2. They have hit his people hard by hitting the oligarchs/gangsters he works with in the pocketbook. It's a lot harder for them to put their money into banks anywhere in the world because that bank would then face the risk of being cut off from the US Banking system which would be a crippling blow. So they have spent more time and more money laundering their money so they can store it someplace clean. By making it problematic for Putin's people, it undermines Putin's power, makes him less sure of his position because his guarantees of impunity may no longer apply if their money can get confiscated.

Putin did not retaliate against the US Magnitsky Act with a Russian version of it because the types of crimes the Magnitsky Act targets by and large are not happening here. But he need to do something against the US and something that hurt Americans and had emotional impact, so he did an adoption ban.

The other thing you need to understand is that leaders like Putin need enemies, enemies to rail against. And that is how Putin used the adoption issue. It played right into his hands, it made American look bad and it stoked Russian nationalism, two prime goals of Putin. That is why this was a big issue before the Magnitsky Act. You should check out the book “Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible." It was written by a guy born in Russia who moved to the UK and later moved back to Russia to work in Russia Television. He was there just as the new style of Russia propaganda was taking off. Putin basically cracked down and independent media and now has control over all Russian TV news for the most part. If you live in Moscow, you may get other sources of news, but most of Russian relies on Russian TV and that is why Putin is popular. The author said News editors would begin their weekly meetings with who is the enemy of the week. Finding new enemies to rail against was routine. This is the background to view the issue of adoptions and you need consider this before you judge Putin to be sincere about adoptions.

Regarding Trump what actions of his make you think he working against some worldwide pedophilia ring.

by the way, remember when we said this law had a lot of opponents in Russia and it was called Herod's Law? I just saw this page, where there's a photo of a Russian protester with King Herod on a poster. 20,000 marched against this law. They called it the Shame and March Against the Scum, the scum being the politicans who voted for the law because they were using orphans as pawns and the orphans would end up suffering. That they were using a tiny number of cases of abuse to potray the entire adoption program.

http://blogs.pjstar.com/eye/2013/01/14/thousands-of-russians-march-against-adoption-ban/

About 20,000 Russians upset with their country’s new law banning Americans from adopting Russian children marched in protest Sunday on central Moscow and St. Petersburg. The ban is widely viewed as retaliation for a U.S. law targeting Russians accused of human rights abuses, and for the perceived mistreatment of some Russian adoptees in the United States. Opponents of the ban claim that Russian president Vladimir Putin is using children to make a political point and solidify his conservative base in the wake of the controversial 2011 parliamentary elections.

Gilderoy ago

Very nice try, Are We Sure, but the Russian adoption ban was put in place by the Russian government in response to many cases of death, abuse and trafficking of Russian adoptees by Americans. One prime example was the 2009 case of Andrew Mogilyansky, a wealthy car dealer in Pennsylvania who financed a child sex ring involving Russian orphans:

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/705330513/Pa-man-gets-8-years-for-sex-with-Russian-orphans.html

By the way, tens of thousands of Russians also rallied IN SUPPORT of the Dima Yakovlev Law in Moscow:

http://www.againstchildtrafficking.org/2013/03/russian-demonstrators-rally-in-support-of-u-s

Gilderoy ago

I would add that Putin vigorously defended the Dima Yakovlev Law at a press conference in 2012:

Mr. Putin said the United States was failing to live up to an agreement ratified earlier this year, by not allowing Russian officials to get involved in abuse cases involving adopted Russian children, even as observers. And he lashed out at one reporter who challenged him.

“This is unacceptable,” he said. “Do you find it normal? Do you like it? Are you a sadomasochist?”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/world/europe/putin-says-his-decision-on-us-adoption-ban-will-come-later.html

Most recently, when pressed on the adoption ban, Russian authorities have said they are willing to revisit the issue, but the American govt will not cooperate with the necessary supervision and monitoring regulations required by the Russian federation if adoptions in America were resumed.

Gilderoy ago

By the way, AreWeSure, going back to our freewheeling discussions about Brooklyn in the past, the DOJ statement about the arrest of the Russia mobster listed many of his accomplices as living in Brooklyn:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/members-and-associates-russian-crime-syndicate-arrested-racketeering-extortion-robbery

They operated an illegal poker club in Brighton Beach, apparently, in addition to various other criminal enterprises.

Also I thought you might find this interesting, too: Jared Kushner is selling a townhouse on 100 Pierrepont Ave, just steps from the Democrat HQ in Brooklyn Heights. http://nypost.com/2017/10/05/brooklyn-house-gut-renovated-by-kushner-slashes-price/