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Warmoose76 ago

So DHS was in Vegas too? Just like they where the ones that where putting up the "every one must check in" signs at Sandy hook?

kestrel9 ago

This time people died, unlike the Sandy Hook false flag. And they aren't going to put crisis actors in a place where they'll be killed. I don't what was behind Stephen Paddock's decision to kill people, or if he timed it with the FEMA event, or if the connections go deeper.

Sig17 ago

Where's your proof that people died?

kestrel9 ago

Fuck you. People close to me know them personally. No, there wasn't a sudden epidemic of crisis actors among friends and family of people I know. How many crisis actors are you acquainted with? The burden of proof is on you if you think the concert was filled with crisis actors, and that the company that they work for were willing to put them in the line of fire and threat of bodily injury from a stampede.

Sig17 ago

Firstly, watch your tongue. Secondly, were any of these people you know injured or killed? Just being somewhere near the "shooting" and seeing crisis actors and fake injuries doesn't make it real. Also, how were the crisis actors at risk if nothing dangerous really happened?

kestrel9 ago

The person killed was good friends with someone I know well. The person injured was extremely close to a friend of a friend.

Now show your direct knowledge and proof that nothing dangerous really happened.

Are_we_shill ago

Hate to jump into this squabble, but you're both partially right. The key difference to remember is between a "false flag" (deaths, i.e. 9/11) and a "hoax" (no deaths, i.e. Sandy Hook) while both are "psyops"

My initial impression of Las Vegas was also that this is another hoax. And I can't blame anyone who thought that given the deep states penchant for running so many past hoaxes. However I came to learn that there were actual deaths and injuries this time. However, there are clearly some crisis actors being used to give interviews along with real victims.

Robert David Steele has coined a new term and calls this event a "hybrid psyop" using elements of both false flag (deaths, a patsy) and a hoax (crisis actors). This is the best explanation I've heard so far.

my $0.02

kestrel9 ago

Thanks. I agree there are plenty of reasons to believe that elements of the deep state were involved. I just lost two posts expounding on it.

At any rate, since I know for a fact that people getting injured or killed at the concert wasn’t a hoax, the possibility of false flag is there, but what appears the obvious motivation for that…i.e. erosion of guns rights, seems a bit too obvious, after thinking about it for some time. Yes there’s FEMA event/security event/crisis actor ad.

Taken together however, it starts to sound too convenient of a narrative given other parts of what we’ve been told. A narrative that is quite weak upon examination (shooter passed all background checks, he wasn’t considered extreme to those who knew him, no law could have prevented this.)

I admit that at first I thought it was about gun control ( i.e. Sandy Hook but not a pure hoax this time). Perhaps it is. But if so, why give such an unclear narrative that makes it really about anything one might first consider…

He’s ISIS or not….He’s left wing antifa or not…He’s secretly a government official or not…No suicide note or maybe there is one…He committed suicide or maybe he was shot by FBI or not.