The main reason I would be for this bill, is that it will bring the market out of the dark. Which would hopefully create protections for women forced into sex work. If you ever look at statistics for sex workers, you would realize that it is a dangerous line of work. Most people feel ok to prey on these women because it is a dark market and think they can't turn to law enforcement.
Just because these women were born with shitty fathers or from an impoverished country doesn't mean they aren't humans who could use help getting away from abusive men.
If it's 'consenting' what's the money for? If it were truly consensual, the woman wouldn't ask for the money.
In Germany, where the buying of sex is legal, women are asked to do very dangerous things. Women are kept pregnant because there's a market for 'gang banging pregnant women'. I have seen photos of a gang bang of a pregnant woman. Then her baby is taken from her and she is impregnated again for the pimp. There is very little 'consent' in prostitution.
Nevada, where prostituted women are basically locked up and are not allowed to leave the premises without a chaperone. These women are kept like cattle. Their conditions are abysmal. The brothel owners are profiteers exploiting vulnerable women. And no...German sex buyers are no different to American sex buyers...they're connected by their feelings of entitlement to women's bodies.
Described as "pussy penitentiaries" by one interviewee, the brothels tend to be in the middle of nowhere, out of sight of ordinary Nevadans. ... The brothel prostitutes often live in prison-like conditions, locked in or forbidden to leave. ... The rooms all have panic buttons, but many women told her that they had experienced violent and sexual abuse from the customers and pimps.?
"I saw a grated iron door in one brothel," says Farley. "The women's food was shoved through the door's steel bars between the kitchen and the brothel area. One pimp starved a woman he considered too fat. She made a friend outside the brothel who would throw food over the fence for her." Another pimp told Farley matter-of-factly that many of the women working for him had histories of sexual abuse and mental ill-health. "Most," he said, "have been sexually abused as kids. Some are bipolar, some are schizophrenic."
...prostitutes in Nevada have been legally required to be tested once a week for sexually transmitted diseases and monthly for HIV. Customers are not required to be tested. The women must present their medical clearance to the police station and be finger-printed, even though such registration is detrimental: if a woman is known to work as a prostitute, she may be refused health insurance, face discrimination in housing or future employment, or endure accusations of unfit motherhood. In addition, there are countries that will not permit registered prostitutes to settle, so their movement is severely restricted?
... some of the legal brothel owners "are worse than any pimp. They abuse and imprison women and are fully protected by the state."
The women are expected to live in the brothels and to work 12- to 14-hour shifts. Mary, a prostitute in a legal brothel for three years, outlines the restrictions. "You are not allowed to have your own car," she notes. "It's like [the pimp's] own little police state."
"Many were suffering what I'd describe as the traumatic effects of ongoing sexual assaults, and those that had been in the brothels for some time were institutionalised. That is, they were passive, timid, compliant, and deeply resigned."
"No one really enjoys getting sold," says Angie, who Farley interviewed. "It's like you sign a contract to be raped."
there are many more just search for "nevada prostitute" on youtube. we live in the modern era and these girls have smart phones and make videos. you can talk to them and ask them questions on their channel. you don't have to rely on a decade old biased article to find the truth.
in 2007 feminists were spreading lies and false narratives that have since been debunked.
I'm assuming you're a man--a progressive, leftie type who advocates for the 'rights' of women to prostitute themselves and be degraded in porn. You may think it's empowering for women to do this, but those who've survived the sex industry will tell you the truth--it's exploitative, abusive and violent.
Answer this question: would you be happy to have about 12 men a day give it to you up your back end every day? Well, if you wouldn't, neither do the millions of women who have to endure that to be able to survive, eat, look after their children, keep a roof over their heads.
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n8d ago
The main reason I would be for this bill, is that it will bring the market out of the dark. Which would hopefully create protections for women forced into sex work. If you ever look at statistics for sex workers, you would realize that it is a dangerous line of work. Most people feel ok to prey on these women because it is a dark market and think they can't turn to law enforcement.
Just because these women were born with shitty fathers or from an impoverished country doesn't mean they aren't humans who could use help getting away from abusive men.
2impendingdoom ago
Is the law for consenting adults or sex with children? I thought it was to legalize pedo-sex.
I could care less what consenting adults do with eachother so long as I don't have to see it.
Piscina ago
If it's 'consenting' what's the money for? If it were truly consensual, the woman wouldn't ask for the money.
In Germany, where the buying of sex is legal, women are asked to do very dangerous things. Women are kept pregnant because there's a market for 'gang banging pregnant women'. I have seen photos of a gang bang of a pregnant woman. Then her baby is taken from her and she is impregnated again for the pimp. There is very little 'consent' in prostitution.
greycloud ago
this is in the US. use nevada as your base of comparison, since it is also in the US. german culture is different than US culture.
Piscina ago
Nevada, where prostituted women are basically locked up and are not allowed to leave the premises without a chaperone. These women are kept like cattle. Their conditions are abysmal. The brothel owners are profiteers exploiting vulnerable women. And no...German sex buyers are no different to American sex buyers...they're connected by their feelings of entitlement to women's bodies.
3141592653 ago
Totally
greycloud ago
care to link a source to your claim? the prostitutes that i have seen in nevada were free to leave and were payed handsomely.
Piscina ago
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/07/usa.gender
greycloud ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5-MyVEnbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwZFw4MNIWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVdvTbrhY5g
there are many more just search for "nevada prostitute" on youtube. we live in the modern era and these girls have smart phones and make videos. you can talk to them and ask them questions on their channel. you don't have to rely on a decade old biased article to find the truth.
in 2007 feminists were spreading lies and false narratives that have since been debunked.
Piscina ago
I'm assuming you're a man--a progressive, leftie type who advocates for the 'rights' of women to prostitute themselves and be degraded in porn. You may think it's empowering for women to do this, but those who've survived the sex industry will tell you the truth--it's exploitative, abusive and violent.
Answer this question: would you be happy to have about 12 men a day give it to you up your back end every day? Well, if you wouldn't, neither do the millions of women who have to endure that to be able to survive, eat, look after their children, keep a roof over their heads.