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StSimonTrentPray4Us ago

Now we know to check Birth Certificate before letting someone into the White House.

"Knowing is half the battle" -GI Joe, Real American Hero

Votescam ago

Of course it was Trump who pushed the "birth certificate" issue about Obama.

Actually, as we can see from Trump's behavior, we don't need physicals or birth certificates ... we need psychiatric reports.

davemcgowanwasright ago

Hillary pushed it first. Not Trump. It was the only thing she was ever right about. Please, wake up.

Votescam ago

dave --

Think you're probably overdue for taking your own advice ... "Please, wake up."

Was Hillary Clinton the Original ‘Birther’?

Two Republican presidential candidates claim the so-called “birther” movement originated with the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008. While it’s true that some of her ardent supporters pushed the theory, there is no evidence that Clinton or her campaign had anything to do with it.>

In an interview on June 29, Sen. Ted Cruz said “the whole birther thing was started by the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2008,” and earlier this year, Donald Trump claimed “Hillary Clinton wanted [Obama’s] birth certificate. Hillary is a birther.”

Neither Cruz nor Trump presented any evidence that Clinton or anyone on her campaign ever questioned Obama’s birthplace, demanded to see his birth certificate, or otherwise suggested that Obama was not a “natural born citizen” eligible to serve as president.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/

Donald Trump's History of Raising Birther Questions About President Obama

The re-emergence of a discussion over President Obama's religion and birthplace as part of Donald Trump's presidential campaign might give some people a sense of deja vu.

The reality TV star and businessman has spoken extensively about his questions over whether Barak Obama was actually born in Hawaii like he (and the state of Hawaii) says he was.

In 2011, when he was vocally mulling over a possible presidential run, Trump launched a public pursuit of Obama's birth certificate, announcing that he has sent private investigators to Hawaii to see what they could find.

The president then released the long-form version of his birth certificate in response to the uproar that Trump had caused. After its release, Trump said that he was "proud of myself because I've accomplished something nobody has been able to accomplish."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-history-raising-birther-questions-president-obama/story?id=33861832

Donald Trump Clung to ‘Birther’ Lie for Years, and Still Isn’t Apologetic It was not true in 2011, when Donald J. Trump mischievously began to question President Obama’s birthplace aloud in television interviews. “I’m starting to think that he was not born here,” he said at the time.

It was not true in 2012, when he took to Twitter to declare that “an ‘extremely credible source’” had called his office to inform him that Mr. Obama’s birth certificate was “a fraud.”

It was not true in 2014, when Mr. Trump invited hackers to “please hack Obama’s college records (destroyed?) and check ‘place of birth.’”

It was never true, any of it. Mr. Obama’s citizenship was never in question. No credible evidence ever suggested otherwise.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther.html

But ... to make my point again ...

"Actually, as we can see from Trump's behavior, we don't need physicals or birth certificates ... we need psychiatric reports."

davemcgowanwasright ago

blow me

Votescam ago

That seems typical of a Trump supporter ....

and someone allegedly here to "save the children from sexual abuse by males."

ROFL

davemcgowanwasright ago

blow me twice. And Obama definitely was not born in the United States. The birth certificate he gave was an obvious fraud.

Votescam ago

Obama is likely CIA - maybe MKULTRA.

There have to be ways to control right wing puppets and in this case it's likely his birth certificate.

Clarence Thomas reached the Supreme Court and the controls on him were obvious during the hearings .... he's a pervert.

davemcgowanwasright ago

Ok so we agree. BTW, i fully concede that Trump might be a puppet too. He probably is. I just hope he isn't.

Votescam ago

Trump has to be somebody's puppet as there is likely a lot of power which moved him into position. Very much like Obama. But the CIA seemed to be very into Hillary ... maybe preferring bombing campaigns over Syria and ME in general over full out nuclear war.

In all that we discuss here, the power of the Vatican (which underpins Elite patriarchy) has to be understood.

On the pedophile issue, they are "Royals" in their own sense of it involved it seems with other Royals as we see clearly in a lot of the European scandals.

Not so long ago I came upon two questions which puzzled me but didn't actually have time to pursue ... First ... Did Capitalism/Elites create Communism .... and the Second, did Vatican create Islam. One of the clues to the second one which moved me to keep an open mind on it was the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal?

"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..." -- Washington Post, 23 March 2002 (1)

http://www.tenc.net/articles/jared/jihad.htm

You might remember that as Americans saw repeatedly on the TV screens Afghan school children robotically reciting from these books. Scared Hell out of everyone. Americans certainly believed it without question.

Another very big clue was a CIA whistleblower I'd been aware of for maybe 20 years ... C-span used to actually present him. The last time I saw something of his I noticed that he referred to the CIA as "Catholics In Action."

Mentioned this question one day here and someone here sent me the Veith link which is very informative.

Haven't yet gotten to the "Communist" question ... but it seems that every great myth requires an opposing myth.

On this front of pedophilia and child trafficking .... I see the Weinstein scandal as a step toward the population being more willing to accept the word of women.
Nature gave pretty much everything to do with childbearing and nurturing of children to females. When women are oppressed and de-powered in our societies -- actually all over the world -- they do not have the power within society to protect children.
We're actually seeing now fears of a return to child labor.

Koch Bros./John Birch Society is certainly one of the large players -- with other large corporations, as well. Koch Family has been trying to overturn democracy in US for more than 100 years.

Veith, I think, said that it's about 100 wealthy families.
Hard to say where the head of the snake lies, however.

If you find out anything ... let me know!

:)