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Votescam ago

What lame and paranoid writing with no one shown as having written it?

One has only to look at the photo of the NFL players to see why Trump is attacking them and the NFL.

We see over and again that the right wing has absolutely no respect for the right of all Americans to peaceful protest. In fact, the interference with protests was what finally triggered the first Revolution.

The flag is merely a SYMBOL of our inalienable rights -- which means natural rights of human beings whether or not a government exists to protect a Constitution which which acknowledges those rights.

These are rights which our soldiers die for every day -- and which are being overturned by the right wing -- or attacked by the right wing.

Raps1 ago

No, it's about paid employees protesting thus making it a corporate sanctioned display. Protests are done by individuals either independently, or coming together as a group. Not when I am paying for a fucking service on my dime.

Leftists are out bashing skulls with bike locks and you are accusing the sold-out right? As long we continue to pretend that there is a fundamental difference between the parties, as long as we play into their divisive diversionary tactics, we all lose.

Take the gay marriage issue. Had it been put forth as a sharing of assets and rights equal to that of marriage, no conservative would have balked. Wasn't that the stated goal? If I work for a pension and wish, upon death, to share it with my same-sex partner, that's something no one would have disagreed with. But no, it was framed within bigotry and fear and forced the redefining of the traditional meaning of marriage. Thus, it attacked traditional values and the definition of family and THAT was the entire purpose of the weaponized version we saw of it. Gays could have cared less for the nomenclature, until some of them were led to outrage by those wishing to instigate and further the cultural Marxism agenda. The rest had no choice but to join in, as no other opportunity was being put forth for legal recognition. But then, I'm sure you're already well aware of all that.

Votescam ago

Raps--

Where is your evidence that anyone is being paid to "TakeaKnee"?

Kapaernick is an individual and other individuals have followed him -- and as an opponent of corrupt government, MIC/CIA/NSA/CFR, warmongering, illegal wars of aggression, the lack of National Health Care for All, attacks on social programs ....racism, sexism, homophobia ... I will be another INDIVIDUAL who will be sitting it out given the next opportunity where the anthem or flag are presented to be honored.

If you're talking about the fakery of the LEFT attack -- possibly as "Anti-Fa" -- that's as fake as all the other false flag events we've seen over last decades and more.

It is the right wing which is violent as it is the only way the right can rise ... by violence, deception and stolen elections. And that's always been true of the right wing -- and it's still true today.

There is no difference between both parties -- they are both owned by Elites/wealthy. Our entire government is corrupt, criminal and murderous.

The gay rights issue was framed in the "bigotry" which Christianity has presented it as an "abomination" for more than 2,000 years. Male-supremacist religion -- organized patriarchal religion -- underpins not only Elite Patriarchy ...but male-supremacy.

How has any heterosexual's marriage been harmed by Gay marriage?

"Traditional" values are well recognized as male-supremacist/Elitist values which have long governed our lives to oppress native people, people of color, women, children and homosexuals.

If you're supporting the teachings of organized patriarchal religions, then you were taught the lies you are living -- i.e., that homosexuals are an abomination. Time to work out of that brainwashing.

Raps1 ago

They are paid to a job as professionals. It is their profession. One doesn't protest while practicing their profession, it is an abuse of their position which they hold by right of the paying ticketholders to try and proselytize them instead of performing their jobs.

Fakery? False flag? It was only through the massive digging by the internet that Eric Clanton was unmasked. The evidence must be pretty damning for him to get charged in liberal Berkeley, a town where the mayor is tied to an organization supporting Antifa.

It's the Left which attacks and spits on the Right. It's not safe to wear an innocuous MAGA hat and expect to not be molested, even though it simply stands for returning the nation around towards economic freedom and restoration of the middle-class which has been decimated through liberal policies.

You obvious either didn't grasp my illustration, or do not wish to, regarding Gay marriage. Gays as individuals wanted legal equality and recognition, not to redefine marriage. I don't pull that out of my ass, but directly from three Gay couples I am close friends with. No other option was presented to them. Had it, they would have received it gladly.

Males are superior to females in many regards. To ignore that and say it is antiquated doesn't make it any less of a reality. A plethora of studies show women are happier in a traditional role, but that wouldn't interest you, as you'd be certain they were Stockholm victims of the patriarchy.

Really, we don't have much to discuss. Your either a shill (and I rarely use that term), or a brainwashed subject of Marxist indoctrination. Either way, I see little benefit in wasting my time with you, particularly on a remote thread where it cannot even benefit the observer.

Votescam ago

Conscience comes before any job. See: Snowden

What's the likelihood, however, that if it were a right wing protest against Affirmative Action for AA's or women that you'd be all in favor of it?

You haven't actually read enough about that false flag event -- both sides were bused in together. Anti-fa is a fake organization having nothing to do with the left and it's violence is one more sign of that reality.

It is the right wing which rises on violence, stolen elections, deception, propaganda of lies and the history of that is clear. If you are talking about genocide vs the native people here and stealing of their land, it is right wing/Elites. If its the system of slavery here, it's the right wing Elites/wealthy.

Our citizens create our economies which are then manipulated by our banks and financial institutions for the benefit of Elites/right wing. The Middle Class are being wiped out by Elites/wealthy because after the fall of the Berlin Wall a middle class was no longer needed here as a model of our capitalist economy.

Royals morphed into corporations -- It is corporations where Elites/wealthy are united in control of our now corrupt government and it is corporations/capitalists who have been destroying economies and jobs for the middle class. It is corporations who have put 25 million and more out of work in America.
Corporations who control our government who destroyed Unemployment insurance. Corporations/Elite who control both of our political parties.

We haven't had a liberal president in the White House since the coup on JFK ... also by the right wing. And if you think LBJ was a liberal you are confused. This is a man who together with Bobby Bakker had set up prostitutes in hotel rooms to blackmail other members of Congress. This is a man who had his own personal murderer in Malcolm Wallace. Read something about LBJ. LBJ was "Mastermind" of the coup on JFK, likely with Allen Dulles. Check out Madeleine Brown for the long list of the conspirators who met at Clint Murchinson's/OIL home the evening before the assassination. No "liberals" among them. Nor is the OIL industry liberal.

Our right wing Congress, btw, has done nothing but try to stop the minimal economic recovery which began two years before Obama left office. Obama is now off to Wall Street to pick up his wear for 8 years of economic destruction and wars and letting the banks off the hook for what was actually a new depression.

You have no point on gay marriage. Homosexuals seek long term adult relationships with other adult homosexuals, same as heterosexuals do. Naturally, that also leads to marriage. Often they intend to have families, as well. Maybe heterosexuals will give up marriage and simply settle for your "illustration" ... legal equality and recognition?

Males are the weaker sex, but they were capable of the violence which it took to overturn women and to turn the world upside down. More males children die in spontaneous abortion and up to the age of about two, and males die earlier than women. Ask any doctor who withstands pain better -- males or females and they will tell you FEMALES. They only way males because "superior" was through violence and oppression -- and the oppression of women all over the world still by male violence continues on. Or are you denying that, as well?

You're correct -- we have very little to discuss -- but wherever I see nonsense as you're posting, there will be debate.