Relevance: The Awan brothers, the DNC, and Seth Rich's death are central to #pizzagate. Finding out who was involved in his alleged murder will blow the lid off pizzagate
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Here's the link to a breaking story:
http://truepundit.com/dnc-payments-to-it-guru-crowdstrike-coincide-with-seth-rich-and-shawn-lucas-deaths/
In their report, America First Media Group shows that the first payments made were preemptive measures on May 5th, 2016. They add that the next payment to Crowdstrike, totaling $98,849.84, took place on July 11th. ...
The report indicates: “The final payment to date is August 3rd, 2016. This coincides with another murder in the District of Columbia. Shawn Lucas, who died on August 2nd of last year, was the DNC Process Server and close friend of Seth Rich.”
The Awan brothers truly are the key to blowing this conspiracy wide open.
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Are_we__sure ago
Why do you mention the Awan Brothers? They have nothing to do with Crowdstrike.
SoSpricyHotDog ago
If these implications are true... and these large payments coincide with some kind of action (or inaction) related to Shawn Lucas and/or Seth Rich, that are made by the DNC. The payments were made before/after the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz by the way:
Multiple email threads from the DNC leak implicate "Imran" (but no Awan... nor is he CC'ed on any emails) just before this timeline opened up. Indicating that Awan had access to at least Pelosi's and DWS's hardware:
"On May 4, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Kroll, Amy wrote: Just spoke to Imran, call me whenever GB and I’ll update you, don’t delete anything yet."
"On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Kroll, Amy wrote: I do not have access to her ipad password, but Imran does. I’ll call Geoff now"
"Subject: Re: DWS MOVEMENTS - 5/12/2016 Pelosi is doing s closed door meeting. No staff or anyone allowed. Kaitlyn come to Rayburn room and get her iPad for Imran. Thanks."
Those are the most direct mentions of access/higher ups at the DNC working w/ Imran. Interesting that they don't just include him on the emails... no? If it's a security issue, then he clearly should not have had access to their hardware in the first place. Especially not if he is the only one on the chain that had their passwords!
So... with all of the circumstances above, you're going to tell me that Crowdstrike completed the investigation to "determine" that the DNC hacks were of a Russian origin. And never bothered to interface with, interview, or meet Imran Awan - the highest paid IT staffer on their payroll?
For putting so much faith into the Russian hacking narrative Crowdstrike was paid to weave, you clearly don't have much faith in their investigatory prowess if they didn't even have a discussion with Mr. Awan. He should have been one of the first people they met with.
zeroinstinct ago
So after your gish gallop, what is it you're saying?
Is it that the FBI and now special council investigation, tasked with finding out the extent of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, isn't talking to Awan, who is involved in a separate investigation?
SoSpricyHotDog ago
Hey! Welcome to Voat/PG...
Nope. That's not what I'm saying... I am simply painting a picture based on circumstance. The DNC leaks left a seemingly suspicious trail of bodies. Now we see payments made with chronological significant timestamps associated to some of these deaths. These payments were made to a specific IT firm, which was a key player in pushing the "Russian Hacking" narrative as a fact.
My goal is to link Awan, to Crowdstrike, for additional "links" between multiple ongoing/unfolding topics. Considering the DNC leaks have overlapping persons of interest with the PizzaGate/Podesta leaks, I think that finding that smoking gun will allow this to potentially get accelerated into the public eye. More light = Less secrets.
As for the Special Counsel Investigation - they seem to be almost 100% focused on the communications/business dealings between anyone in Trump's admin (pre/post becoming POTUS) and therefore, I see the current Russian investigation to be somewhat unrelated based on public knowledge of where that case is heading.
Now, if the Podesta Group is totally embroiled and the current Special Council ends up diving deeper into the Russian hacking claims/Crowdstrike/Assange's evidence against this narrative - this could* all wind up being directly related. AND, members of Trump's administration could still* be held accountable for their own deals/communications, completely separate from what we are focused on.
zeroinstinct ago
Doubt i'll have the comments to continue this conversation, so my reply in the form of several questions might be the end.
I read your post several times looking for the link between Awan, pizzagate, crowdstrike or the grand jury investigation and I didn't see anything. Does it hinge on the days Crowdstrike was paid by the DNC? What evidence do you have to link the Awan investigation to Crowdstrike? And what would be the relevance if you did find a link?
Are you attempting to discredit the Russian collusion investigation or linking this to pizzagate? I'm genuinely confused.
SoSpricyHotDog ago
Sorry, my motive to link the DNC/Awan scandal to the Podesta/Pizzagate leaks is based on 3 observations:
I'm desperately hoping that the Awan/DNC cases uncover more details. But, I have no hard evidence... shit. No one here has hard evidence of anything. If they did, they would be dead or on FoxNews right now.
zeroinstinct ago
This place is a thing because 4chan invented a code for awkward sentences in hacked Podesta emails. Don jr literally hands over emails in which he sets up a meeting for what he believes is dirt on Hillary(and lies about it afterwards) directly from the Kremlin and you think pizzagate has more evidence.
I don't get it, When I talk to pizzgaters, they aren't idiots, they're intelligent, they're good researchers and some I assume are delusional Trump cultists.
SoSpricyHotDog ago
Ok... if that's all you think this is, I'm sorry. You should spend some more time on here and the original Reddit/Chans. Do you deny that pedophilia exists in the political system? Do you deny that there have been massive, historical, cover-ups specifically related to pedos? Do you not even begin to question links to the occult that were found in the leaks? Do you not even begin to question the language/strange sentences in the leaks?
Yes. I do. First off, Don Jr. literally hands over emails... voluntarily. And guess what? If you can avoid CNN's reporting, you would find out that what was promised in the email/meeting invite was not illegal. Unless someone can assign a value to political information on one's opponent and twist the law to fit "illegal campaign contributions" somehow... and if that happened, I'm sure the lawyers would spend a bit more time on Clinton's end of the spectrum.
Thanks! I think the confusion is stemming from the MSM talking points... I'm not calling you gullible, because some of it is certainly true. Will Trump and/or his admin get in some serious trouble for Russian involvement? Communications? Business deals? Yeah... maybe. But the entire investigation has gone off the rails and is just rolling down a hill until it hits anything that can get anyone in trouble. The Russian hacks (DNC), The Russians hacked Podesta, the Russians "weaponized" the info, the Russians "made up" the emails, the Russians interfered with votes, the Russians hacked the voter systems, the Russians are working with Assange, the Russians have jeopardized our democracy... etc... allllllll of these narratives were spun by the media over time.
And now what? We're left w/ Don Jr. taking a meeting, some shady business dealings w/ Manafort (ironically implicating The Podesta Group and responsible for the unmasking scandal - which is far worse/more dangerous) and a handful of "Russian" Facebook accounts that even Mark Zuckerberg admitted "weren't that many"...
Seems a LOOOOONG way off from where the accusations began to me.
zeroinstinct ago
It's 10 days later but i'll happily respond to your reply
Don't give me names of websites, explain the evidence other than 4chan inventing a code for hacked email which started this bullshit. I do believe paedophilia is far too rampant in all walks of life. There has also been cover ups for all kinds of things but that isn't evidence for this, as i'm sure you understand.
i don't see links to the occult, neither do I see strange language, only the type of shorthand everyone uses with friends. It's funny because for all your denials you are admitting here it's all about the "strange languages" which the guys who gave you the grifter was happy to interpret.
As for Don jr he released the emals which the fake news already had and was about to release. But you're clearly a guy/gal who understands cryptology so i'll leave you this to translate.
3 June 2016 Rob Goldstone to Trump Jr Emin [Agalarov, a Russian pop star represented by Goldstone] just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras [a Moscow-based developer who tried to partner with Trump in a hotel project] this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary [Clinton] and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump – helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona [presumably Rhona Graff, Trump’s longtime executive assistant], but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Trump Jr to Goldstone Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
6 June 2016 Goldstone to Trump Jr Let me know when you are free to talk with Emin by phone about this Hillary info – you had mentioned early this week so wanted to try to schedule a time and day. Best to you and your family.
Trump Jr to Goldstone Rob could we speak now?
Goldstone to Trump Jr Let me track him down in Moscow. What number he could call?
Trump Jr to Goldstone My cell.
Goldstone to Trump Jr He’s on stage in Moscow but should be off within 20 minutes so I am sure can call.
Trump Jr to Goldstone Rob thanks for the help.
7 June 2016 Goldstone to Trump Jr Hope all is well. Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and the Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday. I believe you are aware of the meeting – and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you? I assume it would be at your office.
Trump Jr to Goldstone How about 3 at our offices? Thanks Rob appreciate you helping set it up.
Goldstone to Trump Jr Perfect ... I won’t sit in on the meeting, but will bring them at 3pm and introduce you etc. I will send the names of the two people meeting with you for security when I have them later today.
Trump Jr to Goldstone Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law [Jared Kushner] and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.
8 June 2016 Goldstone to Trump Jr Good morning. Would it be possible to move tomorrow meeting to 4pm as the Russian attorney is in court until 3 I was just informed.
Trump Jr to Goldstone Yes Rob I could do that unless they wanted to do 3 today instead ... just let me know and I’ll lock it in either way.
Pedersoli ago
This is amazing stuff! Good catch.