I have been reading the article. I picked out one of the names to look up Dr. Lloyd Lange and he is Still LISTED. He is a Dentist 625 Devon Ave. Park Ridge Il. 60068 Whoa. Park Ridge yet. That is where Hillary and family lived.
During this same time period, police arrested the owners/directors of a summer camp near Yankee Springs Recreation Area, between Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo. Arrested were Dr. Lloyd Lange (42, a dentist) living in Park Ridge, IL, and John Bell (19), David Welch (26) and David John Berta (32).
Deerfield's the next town over from me. Like a 5 min drive. Never heard of him though and Trinity's close by too. Trinity sits right next to the tollway, first set of buildings when you get off.
Well I believe that all this is Key to the Midwest. But is also connected to a larger ring. I also believe that these rat lines and trails they used are still being used today. Only now the Mafia has joined in the game. Dangerous Games.
I just believe that the rat lines and same works are being used by new players. I also believe it all is Key to the fact that it is all somehow connected to Racine, for they are keeping all this going no matter where it is located. They are still doing it all, you know, the drugs, sex abuse, CP and the Key is in the Midwest because of Racine. I hope I explained what I meant.
I advise doing a comprehensive post with your supporting proof. Just because Dr. Lange is still practicing doesn't mean he's the key to anything happening today, make the case for it if you believe that based off of one article. Follow up on his case, the people who ran Hermes with him. Can you trace them to known players at that time. What 'Operation'? Spell it out based on the reported info at the time linked to specifics of whatever ongoing operation that you can back up with facts from today. Making a blanket vague conclusion with no research detracts from research that is posted. imo
You might be right about it detracting. I still believe there is a chance but am not very good at compiling all this stuff. Maybe researching but not writing it up. Just plain bad at tech stuff and presentation. Sigh. I will think about it.
Well this particular case isn't on the top of the food chain compared to the other stuff I've presented (in as far as I know), however, one line of inquiry that would be helpful is that of the exotic fish business, which is connected to some of the people in the CRIES ring. Do these tie to yachting clubs? I'm going to start another thread on it so that the Dr. Lange case doesn't get overrun by different topics (I'll plug in what I know about that case). If you're up for it I could really use the help on the exotic fish angle and whether they were front companies, or used for laundering money etc. Just providing links that are connected to certain people or places, news articles that might repeat what we have but may include an extra detail here or there, that would be immensely helpful. :)
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kestrel9 ago
Moving this to a new thread, it's separate (from the Brussels UNICEF/CRIES) pedo ring.
@carmencita
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carmencita ago
Yes, well the funny thing about it is that I never expected him to be the one I would find. He was the oldest one at the time. Who knew.
Joe10jo ago
Deerfield's the next town over from me. Like a 5 min drive. Never heard of him though and Trinity's close by too. Trinity sits right next to the tollway, first set of buildings when you get off.
carmencita ago
Well I believe that all this is Key to the Midwest. But is also connected to a larger ring. I also believe that these rat lines and trails they used are still being used today. Only now the Mafia has joined in the game. Dangerous Games.
kestrel9 ago
What is the key? What do you mean by key to the Midwest?
carmencita ago
I just believe that the rat lines and same works are being used by new players. I also believe it all is Key to the fact that it is all somehow connected to Racine, for they are keeping all this going no matter where it is located. They are still doing it all, you know, the drugs, sex abuse, CP and the Key is in the Midwest because of Racine. I hope I explained what I meant.
kestrel9 ago
I advise doing a comprehensive post with your supporting proof. Just because Dr. Lange is still practicing doesn't mean he's the key to anything happening today, make the case for it if you believe that based off of one article. Follow up on his case, the people who ran Hermes with him. Can you trace them to known players at that time. What 'Operation'? Spell it out based on the reported info at the time linked to specifics of whatever ongoing operation that you can back up with facts from today. Making a blanket vague conclusion with no research detracts from research that is posted. imo
carmencita ago
You might be right about it detracting. I still believe there is a chance but am not very good at compiling all this stuff. Maybe researching but not writing it up. Just plain bad at tech stuff and presentation. Sigh. I will think about it.
kestrel9 ago
I understand, yes it can seem overwhelming.
carmencita ago
I am trying to work on this and another one. You are a wonder.
kestrel9 ago
Well this particular case isn't on the top of the food chain compared to the other stuff I've presented (in as far as I know), however, one line of inquiry that would be helpful is that of the exotic fish business, which is connected to some of the people in the CRIES ring. Do these tie to yachting clubs? I'm going to start another thread on it so that the Dr. Lange case doesn't get overrun by different topics (I'll plug in what I know about that case). If you're up for it I could really use the help on the exotic fish angle and whether they were front companies, or used for laundering money etc. Just providing links that are connected to certain people or places, news articles that might repeat what we have but may include an extra detail here or there, that would be immensely helpful. :)
carmencita ago
I think this is a really good article http://time.com/12628/human-trafficking-rife-in-thai-fishing-industry/ Here is another one https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-11-09/what-does-human-trafficking-look-today-how-do-we-stop-it Hopes this helps.
kestrel9 ago
Yes that's great, I'm going to add these to the new submission, where we can add to it or expand on the articles etc.
carmencita ago
OK. Great I will be checking in.