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Forgetmenot ago

I posted only a fraction of the links. I wanted to give everyone a back ground first. There is so much more on the subject. Now that bannon is back running breitbart, we might have a chance to have a modern version of William t. Stead.

kestrel9 ago

Excellent! Thank you for all your research. It's encouraging to consider the long game, we aren't at the beginning of it, perhaps half way? If one considers the sources of research that have been ongoing for years already. The key is connecting the right dots, putting them together in such a way for average person not knee deep in research to easily get the message. Tie it to current events in ways they haven't considered to see the long term pattern of deception. Tell everyone, repeatedly.

We don't have the MSM on our side, but now most people don't trust them and are well aware of how deep their lies go. That opens up the field for truth to see the light of day. When I have a chance I'll post the info that I have on the topic of age of consent (you may have them already).

Forgetmenot ago

Oh I think we are still very early stages. It's only been about a year. Our community is very fragmented just the other day I witnessed one of our top researchers label a supporter and colaborator : demonic because the supporter believes in aliens. Immediately many of their followers became divided. We are still suceptible to divide and conquer. Which is the cabals favorite tactic. Max spiers was a ufologist who helped who was an early activist who spread awareness of michal Aquino and pizzagate. We cannot afford to attack each other.

You don't change the society in a year. Let's see: victim testimony needs to compiled and documented, we need experts to publish journal articles, we need to present legislation, amendments, memes, poems, songs, and collaboration with other organizations. Petitions, branding, slogans, that is just a sample of what the purity movement activists did. Unlike the Red Cross there is way more to contribute besides donations :)

There is so much more to share. I can't wait to post it.

Drnoway ago

People like Sibel Edmonds have been working on this for more than a decade, but you're probably right that there will not be a fast resolution. But your post gave me hope that there could be a chance for change!

Forgetmenot ago

Just like Sibel Edmonds, Charles dickens was one of the first who was trying to spread awareness. He worked at least a decade before the movement made even minimal impact. Before it was even known as a purity movement. His work had far reaching results. I suspect it will be the same with sibel Edmonds.

kestrel9 ago

I disagree, I believe we have at least 40 years of hindsight (more if you include research such as your own), and at minimum 10 years of concerted effort of a lot of people working on research. We are exposing what was buried and making connections in ways that presents a larger picture that is greater than the individual stories. People don't like being manipulated to the degree that they have been manipulated, they are open to hearing the truth when presented with an overwhelming amount of proven cases that interconnect.

What the average person won't listen to is ETI accounts, they will tune out. They also will reject proselytizing. If one's focus is on awareness of systemic/institutionalized child abuse and predation, what is proven already is enough for the average person. They just need to have access to that information about what is proven (but has been ignored).

Forgetmenot ago

I am not sure I understand what you disagree with?

kestrel9 ago

Sorry, I disagree that we are only in the early stages, i.e. 'only a year', because PG is not the beginning of the story, and I don't think that it would take 25 years to change anything (at any rate we don't have 25 years).

We can accelerate the dynamic for change based on two huge advantages that the purity activists movement did not have:

  • A library of existing facts, history, research already done on the subject and access to so much of it
  • The information age: information gathering and spreading at unprecedented speed and the tools for organizing the information at unprecedented speed.

The disadvantages we face: Information fatigue, information overload happening to the average person, as well as decades of psyops, conditioning people to not respond or care.

Forgetmenot ago

Pizzagate is an actual movement. With identifiable leaders and specific facts and activists trying to raise awareness around that issue. What movement is over 40 years old? Franklin credit union was one scandal that unfortunately failed: The presidio day care also unfortunately failed as well. Especially because the movement resulted in the false memory syndrome. Of course there have been activists through out history sounding the alarm about this issue. However as an organized movement the purity movement:

1.forced the hand of legislators 2. resulted in the prosecution and arrest of abusers. 3. Created organization to assist and rehab victims. 4. Used slogans and branding. 5. Raised global awareness.

I am not familiar with any movement in the past 40 years that is similar to pizzagate as far as the mainstream attention it has received so far. But I could be wrong. Please share. I am aware of individual activists who have worked tirelessly and at a tremendous personal cost to raise awareness, it never hit mainstream society though, that I know of.

who and what are you referring to?

I look forward to hearing your input it will be important in the next stages, ideas on how to contribute, unify and organize to take this to the next level. Each of us have something unique to offer.

first we all need to understand the purity movement, because they left a successful blueprint for overcoming the difficulties of fighting pedofiles who run the government.

Will it take more than 20 years? I hope not! Understand the purity movement forever changed society. The idea of a childhood did not exist before the 1800's. The idea that a child is entitled to an education, play time, affection, and basic needs was revolutionary. Changes like that don't happen overnight. However I agree we have the Information Age, we have printers, computers cell phones, we have laws already written that simply need to be enforced. So maybe we can hit the ground running and pool our resources and build upon what has been accomplished already. I think the odds are in our favor, dr Phil says the best indication for future behaviour is the past. So I like our odds. We are NOT going to give up.

kestrel9 ago

I'll wait until you finish posting the

"I have mounds of links and I have put together a timeline. Four years ago this topic was MUCH easier to research. Much has been scrubbed from the internet since.

I know the feeling...I have mounds of links and freaky rabbit holes I'm still looking into. In the meantime, we'll rely on you to formulate your strategy based on the purity movement.