Freemasons CHIP program to ID your kids. " It behooves you as concerned and protective parents to use this free service often." wtf? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by 2impendingdoom

So I'm following some leads found in Piscina's Jester's post

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2128681

and started looking at other Freemason sites. Do all of them have this?

http://rimasons.org/programs/chip

"CH.I.P" - as it is known throughout the Rhode Island Masonic community - stands for the Child Identification Program adopted by the Freemasons of Rhode Island which provides a significant community service to the many communities in Rhode Island.

All too often, we see or hear of a story of a lost, runaway or apparently abducted child. This program is designed to facilitate the safe recovery of these youngsters by the authorities.

A two minute video is created and still images are captured of your child. These digital files are then written to a Compact Disc (CD). An Information Sheet is also printed out of your child. This sheet contains photo images, finger prints and detachable ID cards, both of these services are done free of charge, and handed directly to the parent(s) for safekeeping. All the images and information is deleted from the system after the CD and Information Sheet are created - If your child is ever missing, you can provide the CD with the digital information and the information sheet with the finger prints of your child to the authorities. Law enforcement agency searches are enhanced by this expeditious information. It behooves you as concerned and protective parents to use this free service often.

If you would like us to provide this service at your next organizational function please contact us at the address or telephone number below, we would be happy to help.

Rhode Island Freemasons' Child Identification Program 222 Taunton Avenue, East Providence, Rhode Island 02914-4556

Please call us today:

Ph: (401) 435-4650 Fx: (401) 435-4423

Volunteer! Click here.

The Child Identification Program is provided as a free service

I don't know if this has been posted already, but I'm wondering why would you need to use this service often? Wouldn't one set of fingerprints suffice and don't parents already take pics of their kids regularly? Giving all your data about your kids to a bunch of creepy old secretive men is a good idea in what universe? Are they using this to target kids and vulnerable families?

Can anyone think of a way to cross reference actual missing children cases to parents who may have done this program?

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argosciv ago

Reading the quoted text, it doesn't sound forced and indeed, if this were a play at messing with kids, it seems illogical to provide a service which aids in the recovery of missing children... (especially if said missing children, are registered with CH.I.P before being abducted)

I'm not exactly comfortable with chips being installed in the human body, but, I'm not seeing implication of such a thing at all, let alone any attempt to force CH.I.P upon the unwilling... am I missing something in the linked post/article/whatever?

2impendingdoom ago

Is this something that you would participate in? If you had a young kid would you bring them to a masonic lodge to be fingerprinted and videoed? I think that it is setting your kid up to be a target.

argosciv ago

Me personally? No, I would just do my best to keep an eye out for my child.

But that is partially my point, it seems fully voluntary.

2impendingdoom ago

Voluntary until there is a law requiring it. These creeps are lawyers, judges, town/city coucil/state senators....

argosciv ago

Of course, don't think that isn't a consideration of mine lol.

IF there comes hints of making this enforced by law, then I'll start to panic again - but really, I cannot see many people volunteering for this anyway, for exactly the reasons you speak of.

It almost seems like a pointless gesture.

2impendingdoom ago

If that's the case, why do they do this? They must have some reason.

argosciv ago

I honestly have no idea on that one...

Let's assume for a moment that everything's above board... maybe it's their way of making a good-faith gesture considering how far the masons have been dragged through the mud in all this - due to the actions of a few sick and perverted individuals?

Just playing Devil's advocate for a moment.

2impendingdoom ago

Any bunch of guys interested in collecting photos of young kids is the first suspect/s in my mind if one of those kids later went missing. If they've been dragged through the mud, then why are they even going here, seems they would want to keep themselves away from all activities involving kids, not get deeper into it. It seems like you are defending them.

argosciv ago

Defending them? Not a chance, I'm in no hurry to defend a group which isolates women from it's membership. (though it is worth noting that all-female lodges now exist and that the OTO accept(s/ed) men and women equally)

Just not jumping to conclusions as the quoted text doesn't leave me feeling immediately uneasy.

Fair points are being raised, I'm not trying to shit on those at all. It just seems most illogical to me, to be so public about the service offered, if the intent is to facilitate further fuckery.

2impendingdoom ago

This kind of stuff, with everything else going on, it can't possibly be a goodwill gesture. Maybe the lower level masons are thinking it is but the upper levels will take that info and any kids in it are as good as fucked. This is another version of NCMEC, Amber Alert, CPS, etc...

argosciv ago

I sincerely hope that isn't the case.

I'll maintain a degree of healthy skepticism, consdering it is the masons afterall, just not getting any alarm bells at the moment. /shrug

carmencita ago

I think the Alarm Bell just went off. Illinois chip program, look at the top of the page. http://ilmason.org/site/GrandLodgeIllinois/GrandLodge/Charities/CHIP.aspx @2impendingdoom

argosciv ago

will take a look, just woke up

carmencita ago

I am so sorry. Forgot where you live. Just now remembered. Take your time.

argosciv ago

all good :)

just need ze coffee to kick in so I'm not just looking at things with frustrated sleepy eyes xD

2impendingdoom ago

They take DNA samples!

  • Color Photo that records image and height and is digitized on a convenient CD that can be easily circulated by police to the media and distributed across the State within an hour via Illinois’ Amber Alert Program.
  • DNA Sample taken through a saliva cheek swab is the latest tool in the scientific arsenal to make positive ID’s of lost children.
  • Fingerprints are the oldest form of positive identification since they are unique to every person.
  • Recorded Interview captures on the same CD as the picture the appearance, speech patterns, personal characteristics, and mannerisms for easy media distribution.

carmencita ago

YEP. I have been onto this for a while now. I am awful at posting and I think that @fogdryer did a piece on chips as well. That is why I have been DEMANDING that people keep posting about the MASONS every single day. They are behind this. Think about it facial recognition I am sure is in the schools now when kids use their tablets. 1984 IS HERE FOR OUR KIDS.

2impendingdoom ago

Yes, please stay skeptical. And when they come up with some "success stories" of finding missing children because the Masons provided photos and finger prints and that justifies the program becoming mandatory, everybody will think its a good idea.

argosciv ago

"Create the problem then provide the solution", definitely a valid consideration.