While all of this may very well be true, you are simply regurgitating the mainstream media's only remaining attacks... and their track record is pathetic at best in terms of the attacks that "stick". Yet, no apologies, retractions or clarifications are ever issued.
Let's assume everything you posted is true. You have to understand that as a hyper-critic on Voat, you dismiss nearly everything related to Pizzagate/Pedogate/DNC corruption/Seth Rich and attempt to "explain away" all of the circumstance/evidence/wrongdoing of the left. Now we see your true colors. You are very quick to "take the bait" from the mainstream... and while very active on this channel, you dismiss everything else.
While you are a very talented debunker, and gave me some serious information to think about re: Building 7, the speed at which you take the anti-Right media seriously vs. instantly declaring everything anti-Left as a crazy conspiracy with no validity... really makes it seem like you are much more of a pro-establishment leftist than an objective debunker.
Just my $0.02 to explain the optics around how you're presenting yourself.
Also, for what it's worth, everything in your pro-CNN post is literally a series of attacks against Trump/his administration, and none of them have anything whatsoever to do with Pizzagate (Russian hacking would, but, older Russian financial deals/sanctions/Sheriff Joe? Ehhhh... not so much) . That would be a violation of Rule #1.
I claim that they are "attacks" because you cherry picked random articles that focus on the negative aspects of Trump. You then jumped to the totally unrelated topic of Sheriff Joe Arpaio based purely on an assumption that it was a precursor to RussiaGate pardons.
And again, throughout the entire post, there is literally nothing related to Pizzagate or Pedogate... it was centered on the Russian collusion claims, claims that have largely been abandoned by the ADHD MSM due to the shit-level desperation attempt to link breadcrumbs to some sort of strange Russian collusion narrative the seeps into every facet of our domestic media.
Could there have been Russian deals? Influence? Funding? Quite possibly. Yes! Maybe!
Can we use Russia to explain away the DNC "hacks" despite all real information pointing to a domestic leak? No! Sorry!
Does the worst case scenario of Russian ties to Trump and his Admin even begin to scratch the surface of comparative politics at the level of corruption we can tie to Clinton, Podesta/Skippy, Comey, Lynch, Holder, Rice, WJC, Sid B., McCabe, etc? No! Sorry!
If you placed the scale of justice on a flat surface and placed the two groups on each side, Trump and his Admin would be launched into the stratosphere from the incredible amount of corruption/collusion from the opposite side. You've also got to include the weight added from Pizza/Pedo Gate... the Awan scandal, the DNC leaks/theft, DWS (noodle head), Shawn Lucas, Seth Rich, possible wiretapping, foreign donations to HRC, Clinton Foundation, Haiti... and I'm just going to give up at that point.
But I'm sure you can explain this all away. Because WE are the crazy conspiracy theorists... right? Not the guy desperately clutching to the final few strands of the RussiaGate theory, which began as the claim of a total Russian takeover, and has been a full fledged media brainwash attack 24-7 for 9 months, resulting in exactly jack shit to show for it aside from a few old business deals and a meeting where they wanted dirt on HRC.
So, that's why I claim they are attacks. They have nothing to do with the focal point and they are a total waste of time in comparison to the corruption on the other side of the aisle.
Of course, I did not "cherry-pick" articles. And of course they were not "random." My point was the special prosecutor's investigation of Team Trump was heating up and they were all evidence of that. 3 or 4 different folks I follow on Twitter were saying some big stories were going to come out. These were folks who might be called by reporters for comments on stories.
Even as I was writing up that post, stuff was coming out. Every link I posted is either from yesterday or the past like 10 days.
The Pardon of Arpaio is not totally unrelated and yes, it's speculation on RussiaGate pardons, but the special prosecutor working with a state district attorney is a very unusual act. Why would that be happening? This is not just me speculating on this. Lots of reports are discussing this as a signal to potential witnesses. Trump's firing of Comey showed he was willing to overstep norms and use his powers to defend his friends and his family. That and the pardon can be read as signals. The federal special prosecutor working with the state AG of the State where Trump Tower meeting took place can be read as another.
The Releation to Pizzagate is the John Podesta's emails were released due to a widespread Russian hacking and information campaign designed to hurt the Clinton Campaign and bolster the Trump campaign. The investigation is about whether the Trump campaign was involved. The Trump Tower meeting shows they were willing to meet people who were said to be bringing damaging info on the Clintons with the blessing of the Russian goverment. Yesterday's news showed that this involved the Clinton Foundation which many people on here claim that is involved in child trafficking.
It was centered on the Russian collusion claims, claims that have largely been abandoned by the ADHD MSM
Um, that is no true. You (and the media you choose) have simply convinced yourselves of that. Everything I posted yesterday shows this is not abandoned. News sites react to news, and they then do further investigations to develop stories. That is what is happening here. A lot of news just came out.
Does the worst case scenario of Russian ties to Trump and his Admin even begin to scratch the surface of comparative politics at the level of corruption we can tie to Clinton, Podesta/Skippy, Comey, Lynch, Holder, Rice, WJC, Sid B., McCabe, etc? No! Sorry!
To quote a dear friend of mine, to me this sounds like the "desperate clutching" of straws. By the way are you aware that you are claiming my post wasn't relevant and among the reasons you cite are the DNC leaks/theft, foreign donations to HRC and the Clinton Foundation? We now know that all of these are tied into that Trump Tower meeting I posted because of the news that just broke.
If you want to write that post, go right ahead. Otherwise, this is just a big case of "Whattaboutism."
As for where the investigation is, it seems to be significantly closer to the President as witnessed by the action of his own lawyers who are acting because they know a very good case of obstruction of justice is coming.
My guess is my post sounds so shocking to you, because it not part of your media ecosphere.
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SoSpricyHotDog ago
While all of this may very well be true, you are simply regurgitating the mainstream media's only remaining attacks... and their track record is pathetic at best in terms of the attacks that "stick". Yet, no apologies, retractions or clarifications are ever issued.
Let's assume everything you posted is true. You have to understand that as a hyper-critic on Voat, you dismiss nearly everything related to Pizzagate/Pedogate/DNC corruption/Seth Rich and attempt to "explain away" all of the circumstance/evidence/wrongdoing of the left. Now we see your true colors. You are very quick to "take the bait" from the mainstream... and while very active on this channel, you dismiss everything else.
While you are a very talented debunker, and gave me some serious information to think about re: Building 7, the speed at which you take the anti-Right media seriously vs. instantly declaring everything anti-Left as a crazy conspiracy with no validity... really makes it seem like you are much more of a pro-establishment leftist than an objective debunker.
Just my $0.02 to explain the optics around how you're presenting yourself.
Also, for what it's worth, everything in your pro-CNN post is literally a series of attacks against Trump/his administration, and none of them have anything whatsoever to do with Pizzagate (Russian hacking would, but, older Russian financial deals/sanctions/Sheriff Joe? Ehhhh... not so much) . That would be a violation of Rule #1.
Are_we_sure ago
The Clinton Foundation and adoption have been the subject of thousands of Posts on here as has the actions of "the Deep State."
Yeah. Let's do that.
Question for you, this is a news post about recent developments. Why do you claim they are attacks?
SoSpricyHotDog ago
I claim that they are "attacks" because you cherry picked random articles that focus on the negative aspects of Trump. You then jumped to the totally unrelated topic of Sheriff Joe Arpaio based purely on an assumption that it was a precursor to RussiaGate pardons.
And again, throughout the entire post, there is literally nothing related to Pizzagate or Pedogate... it was centered on the Russian collusion claims, claims that have largely been abandoned by the ADHD MSM due to the shit-level desperation attempt to link breadcrumbs to some sort of strange Russian collusion narrative the seeps into every facet of our domestic media.
Could there have been Russian deals? Influence? Funding? Quite possibly. Yes! Maybe!
Can we use Russia to explain away the DNC "hacks" despite all real information pointing to a domestic leak? No! Sorry!
Does the worst case scenario of Russian ties to Trump and his Admin even begin to scratch the surface of comparative politics at the level of corruption we can tie to Clinton, Podesta/Skippy, Comey, Lynch, Holder, Rice, WJC, Sid B., McCabe, etc? No! Sorry!
If you placed the scale of justice on a flat surface and placed the two groups on each side, Trump and his Admin would be launched into the stratosphere from the incredible amount of corruption/collusion from the opposite side. You've also got to include the weight added from Pizza/Pedo Gate... the Awan scandal, the DNC leaks/theft, DWS (noodle head), Shawn Lucas, Seth Rich, possible wiretapping, foreign donations to HRC, Clinton Foundation, Haiti... and I'm just going to give up at that point.
But I'm sure you can explain this all away. Because WE are the crazy conspiracy theorists... right? Not the guy desperately clutching to the final few strands of the RussiaGate theory, which began as the claim of a total Russian takeover, and has been a full fledged media brainwash attack 24-7 for 9 months, resulting in exactly jack shit to show for it aside from a few old business deals and a meeting where they wanted dirt on HRC.
So, that's why I claim they are attacks. They have nothing to do with the focal point and they are a total waste of time in comparison to the corruption on the other side of the aisle.
Are_we_sure ago
Of course, I did not "cherry-pick" articles. And of course they were not "random." My point was the special prosecutor's investigation of Team Trump was heating up and they were all evidence of that. 3 or 4 different folks I follow on Twitter were saying some big stories were going to come out. These were folks who might be called by reporters for comments on stories.
Even as I was writing up that post, stuff was coming out. Every link I posted is either from yesterday or the past like 10 days.
The Pardon of Arpaio is not totally unrelated and yes, it's speculation on RussiaGate pardons, but the special prosecutor working with a state district attorney is a very unusual act. Why would that be happening? This is not just me speculating on this. Lots of reports are discussing this as a signal to potential witnesses. Trump's firing of Comey showed he was willing to overstep norms and use his powers to defend his friends and his family. That and the pardon can be read as signals. The federal special prosecutor working with the state AG of the State where Trump Tower meeting took place can be read as another.
The Releation to Pizzagate is the John Podesta's emails were released due to a widespread Russian hacking and information campaign designed to hurt the Clinton Campaign and bolster the Trump campaign. The investigation is about whether the Trump campaign was involved. The Trump Tower meeting shows they were willing to meet people who were said to be bringing damaging info on the Clintons with the blessing of the Russian goverment. Yesterday's news showed that this involved the Clinton Foundation which many people on here claim that is involved in child trafficking.
Um, that is no true. You (and the media you choose) have simply convinced yourselves of that. Everything I posted yesterday shows this is not abandoned. News sites react to news, and they then do further investigations to develop stories. That is what is happening here. A lot of news just came out.
To quote a dear friend of mine, to me this sounds like the "desperate clutching" of straws. By the way are you aware that you are claiming my post wasn't relevant and among the reasons you cite are the DNC leaks/theft, foreign donations to HRC and the Clinton Foundation? We now know that all of these are tied into that Trump Tower meeting I posted because of the news that just broke.
If you want to write that post, go right ahead. Otherwise, this is just a big case of "Whattaboutism."
As for where the investigation is, it seems to be significantly closer to the President as witnessed by the action of his own lawyers who are acting because they know a very good case of obstruction of justice is coming.
My guess is my post sounds so shocking to you, because it not part of your media ecosphere.
Cheers. AWS