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argosciv ago

@ESOTERICshade thoughts?!

equineluvr ago

Do we need woo-woo in this thread?

Seriously?

argosciv ago

look, let's suppose for just a moment that both yourself and esoteric are genuine(just hear me out)

in the same way that you recognize the differences you and I share(misnomer?) on some topics, etc, that you still find something valuable in my perspective - I afford esoteric that bare minimum benefit of doubt, I've come to understand where his perspective stems from and value it with something as potentially critical as this.

equineluvr ago

Okay, can you explain to me the nexus between a technical subject (hacking of website) or Assange/Wikileaks/CIA and woo-woo?

IOW, how does a woo-woo perspective benefit/augment this particular discussion?

argosciv ago

In short: similar way of thinking to "false flag"/"psy op"/"chaos magic", what MIGHT this signify(to those who have their heads in the abstract elements of this fuckery), in terms of bigger plays - if there's anything more to it than what might be considered a "low level attack", given what we think we know about Wikileaks/CIA/Worldfuckers et al.

Small hack or not, I wonder if there's something subliminal to it, deeper than usual.

equineluvr ago

Okay, but if that's what your seeking you need an expert. That person is NOT an expert on the topic IMO. (I am not either -- it is not an "area of interest" of mine to that degree -- although I do know quite a bit about it. However, I DO recognize an expert in that topic when I encounter one.)

Amateur input on that topic would be mere speculation.

There's an old saying, "Everyone has an opinion and an asshole." MANY posters here just spew out opinion or "what they think" (what they believe to be true rather than what IS true) as though it were FACT. That not only causes confusion, it is the death knell for a research forum.

Woo-woo bullcrap is one of the easiest areas in which to fool people: It's something most folks know nothing about, people get sucked into the emotional components, its claims are not empirically testable, etc.

argosciv ago

Neither am I, but, in case it isn't already obvious as fuck, it's the only domain in which I have any hope of contributing.

I did indeed ask him to speculate "thoughts?", no more, no less - same as what I'm doing here and copping dv's for T_T

equineluvr ago

Fair enough.

"it's the only domain in which I have any hope of contributing."

Which domain -- woo-woo?

"copping dv's for T_T" - ?

Enjoy your speculation. :)

argosciv ago

"abstract elements" to be a little clearer(yes i know, it's still ambiguous, fucking, you try giving it a word). Woo-woo can fuck right off, though, indeed, the distinction being that woo-woo is utter nonsense/fluff/everything-is-okay/positive-thought-brigade-flower-power bullshit.

EDIT: dv's = downvoats, T_T = cryface