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Votescam ago

Well, the friendship between Trump and Arpaio can certainly tie Trump to racism and murder in Arpaio's jails. --

with 160 "suicides" by those being held in his jails.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/prisoners-hang-themselves-in-sheriff-joe-arpaios-jails-at-a-rate-that-dwarfs-other-county-lockups-7845679

If Soros is out to get Sheriff Joe -- good for Soros!

Commoner ago

From the source you cite, there were not 160 suicides! There were 157 deaths . *fyi - not all deaths are suicides!

Searching other databases (the Office of the County Medical Examiner's and the Office of Risk Management's, as well as the U.S. Department of Justice's) revealed that close to 160 people have died in Arpaio's jails.

From 1996 to 2015, the suicide rate among jail deaths in Sheriff Joe Arpaio's lockups was an astounding 24 percent, with 39 of the 157 hanging themselves.

Furthermore, the biased 'reporter' comparison between Sheriff Joe's years and other cities rates of suicides means nothing.

  • First, he doesn't ever actually tell us what number he is using for the number of suicides.

But that is an estimate, because the truth is that no outside authority keeps track of how many people die from brutality, neglect, disease, bad health, or old age in Arpaio's jails.

  • Second, he compares different years and the number of years. Why does he use a short time frame of 3 years, 2000-2002, when pulling data for the other cities.

In jailhouse deaths across the nation, the U.S. Department of Justice notes the following rates of suicide over a three-year period from 2000 to 2002: • Los Angeles: 11 percent. • New York: 9 percent. • Cook County (Chicago): 6 percent. • Philadelphia: 14 percent. • Harris County (Houston): 13 percent. • Dade County (Miami): 6 percent.

  • Third, why does he not use the entire years of Joe's tenure. Why does he start at 1996 when Joe's service starts at 1993.

The bottom line is right in his report, but he and you ignore it.

During the reign of Sheriff Joe Arpaio, research requested and provided from the coroner's office showed 157 deaths. In and of itself, the number is not necessarily out of line with jail deaths in other jurisdictions.

You say "good for Soros!"

We know, we know.

Votescam ago

And presumably "Commoner" is out to alibi for Arpaio and Trump racism.

Note that I put "suicides" in quotes.

There are many questions about all of this, like why should there be any "deaths/suicides" in our prisons?

Why aren't prisoners given health care and health check up when they are arrested in order to prevent these deaths?

But that is an estimate, because the truth is that no outside authority keeps track of how many people die from brutality, neglect, disease, bad health, or old age in Arpaio's jails.

And I'm sure the racial breakdown would also be interesting.

Commoner ago

So is Hispanic Arizona state Senator Steve Montenegro, who is running for AZ Secretary of State racists against himself?

http://stevemontenegro.com/

Or does he just believe in law and order so America doesn't become a lawless country like the lawless countries the illegal immigrants are leaving?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PswjydxXew

What do you have against immigrant children staying home with their parents so they don't get raped and enslaved on their trek here? Or are you okay with them being trafficked? Because the kids Obama invited up here are the ones being trafficked.

Votescam ago

Commoner --

If you hadn't been taught so well to hate others, you might give some real thought to what the US/CIA government has been doing throughout the world to create violence and poverty.

You might also give some real though to the reality that it isn't commoners who are running this nation ... it's Elites. And they profit when slave wages and illegal immigrants are forced here. And, of course, that's been true of Trump.

Do you ever ask yourself why we have children being sexually abused and raped and trafficked in this country you seem to be so proud of?

Try reading something about Arpaio's jails and see if you still want to join in applauding Arpaio and Trump in their childishness and arrogance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#Jails

Also don't see how you've missed understanding that the US/CIA has been supporting and creating "lawless countries" and dictatorships - and our fake Drug War has played a large role in that.