I would thoroughly discourage any "civilian" from using phone numbers to harass people. It's illegal and you could be arrested. Further, if many people do this, authorities can point to posts like this in inciting illegal behavior.
Hiring a private investigator has been raised before. I believe I had a post asking why we didn't do this and it's the same reason that the community doesn't do things en masse. Who are you going to trust in collecting money? Who are you going to trust to perform the investigation? Who are you going to trust with your information if you do donate? Etc., etc., etc. I believe right round that time that a very sketchy guy started posting a Gofundme campaign saying he was going to do documentaries ... oh, but they weren't going to be done in the U.S. Yeah, lots of red flags there which just amplifies the problems with hiring anyone. If people are willing to put up money, you can bet some wolf will appear out of the woodwork offering to take that money off our hands.
Leave the job of policing to the authorities. For instance, would you like to get phone calls from a pro-CNN supporter asking you why you believe in #pizzagate or why you're posting on Voat? Do you think you'd answer those questions.
Investigate all you want on the web. If you can involve an independent journalist, do so. I would completely back that. But random people, making random calls? Be prepared for bad press, accusations of inciting violence, having the "lone gunman" incident at Comet make a reappearance in the news, etc.
Then there's people changing their number. No one's going to regret not acting like an unhinged lunatic.
But you can: (1) support officials that are taking actions. No one has thanked Trump or Sessions for their part in helping WV out of its opioid problem. (2) GET POLITICALLY INVOLVED! There are new horrendous laws appearing out of hat that no one fought! So get your asses off the couch and run for council seats, or attend community board hearings, and go to the websites of your representatives and monitor what they're doing! If you don't like it, organize! Protest! Flood the representative's office with your thoughts on why the legislation is a terrible idea and how they will lose your support if they persist in decriminalizing child prostitution ... or whatever the issue is. (4) Continue your web dumpster diving investigations. (5) Use social media to spread the word. (6) Rebut any false narratives given by such fake news outlets like CNN, etc. Reply to tweets, news stories, etc.
But don't be calling numbers you have no business calling. Just do not.
I would thoroughly discourage any "civilian" from using phone numbers to harass people. It's illegal and you could be arrested. Further, if many people do this, authorities can point to posts like this in inciting illegal behavior.
Skype is an awesome way to call people anonymously.
Make sure to fill up Skype minutes with an anonymous gift card.
Citizen journalists are entitled to call and ask questions. I have and never been in trouble. I go right into the police station and say, what's happening here?
Phoning Barbara Kahan companies and asking to speak to Barbara (LMAO) she's rarer than a unicorn, dontcha know?
I believe I clearly stated that indie journalists are fine doing this. If an independent journalist wants to call someone for a comment, go ahead.
The point is what is effective and what is legal. A bunch of yahoos calling someone's business demanding to know if they have children in the swimming pool just is not smart. It doesn't get anyone anywhere because no one is going to admit that Luzzatto's step-grandkids are back there in the heated pool.
Think back to JA's CP being barraged with calls. What came out of that? Oh, a Meghan Kelly piece and tons of publicity that made idiots fund a Gofundme campaign he set up, so we didn't learn anything, pizzagate got a bad name, AND he made money through donations! Then there was that false flag that allowed JA to get rid of that hard drive. Yup, we sure were effective. I'm nobody, I'm just stating an opinion. I don't control other people's actions, I just believe in doing things the right way. It's why I'm for legal investigations, getting politically active, and getting these bastards in jail.
Videotaping, following people around, visiting businesses or homes, hammering people with phone calls I don't feel is the way to go, but, again, that's my opinion.
view the rest of the comments →
quantokitty ago
I would thoroughly discourage any "civilian" from using phone numbers to harass people. It's illegal and you could be arrested. Further, if many people do this, authorities can point to posts like this in inciting illegal behavior.
Hiring a private investigator has been raised before. I believe I had a post asking why we didn't do this and it's the same reason that the community doesn't do things en masse. Who are you going to trust in collecting money? Who are you going to trust to perform the investigation? Who are you going to trust with your information if you do donate? Etc., etc., etc. I believe right round that time that a very sketchy guy started posting a Gofundme campaign saying he was going to do documentaries ... oh, but they weren't going to be done in the U.S. Yeah, lots of red flags there which just amplifies the problems with hiring anyone. If people are willing to put up money, you can bet some wolf will appear out of the woodwork offering to take that money off our hands.
Leave the job of policing to the authorities. For instance, would you like to get phone calls from a pro-CNN supporter asking you why you believe in #pizzagate or why you're posting on Voat? Do you think you'd answer those questions.
Investigate all you want on the web. If you can involve an independent journalist, do so. I would completely back that. But random people, making random calls? Be prepared for bad press, accusations of inciting violence, having the "lone gunman" incident at Comet make a reappearance in the news, etc.
Then there's people changing their number. No one's going to regret not acting like an unhinged lunatic.
But you can: (1) support officials that are taking actions. No one has thanked Trump or Sessions for their part in helping WV out of its opioid problem. (2) GET POLITICALLY INVOLVED! There are new horrendous laws appearing out of hat that no one fought! So get your asses off the couch and run for council seats, or attend community board hearings, and go to the websites of your representatives and monitor what they're doing! If you don't like it, organize! Protest! Flood the representative's office with your thoughts on why the legislation is a terrible idea and how they will lose your support if they persist in decriminalizing child prostitution ... or whatever the issue is. (4) Continue your web dumpster diving investigations. (5) Use social media to spread the word. (6) Rebut any false narratives given by such fake news outlets like CNN, etc. Reply to tweets, news stories, etc.
But don't be calling numbers you have no business calling. Just do not.
2b1ask1 ago
Skype is an awesome way to call people anonymously.
Make sure to fill up Skype minutes with an anonymous gift card.
SpiritOfChristmas ago
@quantokitty
Citizen journalists are entitled to call and ask questions. I have and never been in trouble. I go right into the police station and say, what's happening here?
Phoning Barbara Kahan companies and asking to speak to Barbara (LMAO) she's rarer than a unicorn, dontcha know?
quantokitty ago
I believe I clearly stated that indie journalists are fine doing this. If an independent journalist wants to call someone for a comment, go ahead.
The point is what is effective and what is legal. A bunch of yahoos calling someone's business demanding to know if they have children in the swimming pool just is not smart. It doesn't get anyone anywhere because no one is going to admit that Luzzatto's step-grandkids are back there in the heated pool.
Think back to JA's CP being barraged with calls. What came out of that? Oh, a Meghan Kelly piece and tons of publicity that made idiots fund a Gofundme campaign he set up, so we didn't learn anything, pizzagate got a bad name, AND he made money through donations! Then there was that false flag that allowed JA to get rid of that hard drive. Yup, we sure were effective. I'm nobody, I'm just stating an opinion. I don't control other people's actions, I just believe in doing things the right way. It's why I'm for legal investigations, getting politically active, and getting these bastards in jail.
Videotaping, following people around, visiting businesses or homes, hammering people with phone calls I don't feel is the way to go, but, again, that's my opinion.