It just is. Feel free to Google it but religion predates man's law. I'm not being a dick with this next comment but I assume you're not Catholic so you don't understand the concept of confession and the role the priest plays. Think of the confessional as you praying out loud to God and the priest is there to provide guidance and absolution. I'm over simplifying but that's an easy way to think about it. A priest is not required by law to divulge anything that is said DURING CONFESSION. It ONLY applies to confession. If you told a priest you molested a baby in confession, he will tell you to stop, turn yourself in, pray, whatever but it's up to you to do the right thing. Now if you are NOT in confession like you're hanging out at his house watching TV and you mention it, that is not the sacrament of confession and if he doesn't report it he's a cunt.
In fact the more I think about this, the more it fucking infuriates me actually... the following is an emotionally charged, personal opinion and is likely to offend some, I offer no apology.
They're ALREADY CUNTS for allowing such confessions to be protected. Once upon a time I may have thought differently, that everyone deserves some 'safe place' to reveal even their darkest nature... but FUCK IT! There's a goddamn line, and so far as I'm concerned it AT LEAST starts with child abuse, I could care less what protections religions x/y/z try to justify - if you want an isolated place in which to confess your crimes against children, try jail and then no doubt, very quickly, a coffin.
The priests that let monsters walk back out those doors and into the community they claim to support... let 'em hang(proverbially speaking, ie, put them to the courts and let good honest people(unbiased by religion) decide their fate) for being enablers/accomplices.
You're making a lot of assumptions. 1. Most child molesters aren't running to the confessional to tell a priest about it. 2. Someone confessing something as bad as child abuse of any kind will probably not do it face to face with their own priest.
It's the EXACT same privilege that an attorney has with their client. You do realize that attorney client privilege keeps a lawyer from divulging the exact same information, right? Why no similar anger towards lawyers?
Catholic priest have a sordid history of abusing children and facing no legal consequences. We already know they are above the law and our society is subverted. Lawyers are not the problem, they are advocates for their clients. Priest pray on children, and cover up crimes. This priest is just a typical scumbag caught up in his own protected fantasy world where consequences for actions never materialize. It's the attitude about what is important that pisses people off. Catholic priest are legal pedos.
I"ll post this again. In the past 2 weeks I think I've posted 5 separate articles of school teachers abusing minors. In that time frame, no priests have been accused. School teachers have ten times the abuse rate of children over priests and school teachers are protected by their unions and merely moved to different schools. THIS STILL HAPPENS. Priests have a lower percentage of abuse than school teachers and much less than society in general.
"School teachers do it; you're overreacting about the priests",
We had a very fair conversation earlier, but, I think even you know that this is a comment of yours (intentionally or otherwise) shifts blame or otherwise attempts to normalize child abuse 'in all corners', responsibility to the responsible.
A human sits in a pew, another sits beside - both are blind(they cannot see each other), nobody else is present.
Person A, says to Person B: "I thoroughly enjoy abusing and murdering infants"
Person B, is of course, free to do as they will with this information. Such to an extent, so is Person A free to do as they will. (Do not fucking misread that, I am not condoning Person A)
If Person B does NOTHING to stop Person A from continuing to commit such an act, Person B is as much a cunt as Person A.
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3141592653 ago
This is related to PG as it is an example of an elite's participation in covering up organized child sexual abuse.
HarveyKlinger ago
Except that it's not. The seal of confession is what it is. Regardless of content, it can not be broken.
3141592653 ago
the seal of confession is not the law! child abuse must be reported at all times!
HarveyKlinger ago
Actually, it IS protected by law.
argosciv ago
not that I won't be googling the shit out of this myself, but, source?
HarveyKlinger ago
It just is. Feel free to Google it but religion predates man's law. I'm not being a dick with this next comment but I assume you're not Catholic so you don't understand the concept of confession and the role the priest plays. Think of the confessional as you praying out loud to God and the priest is there to provide guidance and absolution. I'm over simplifying but that's an easy way to think about it. A priest is not required by law to divulge anything that is said DURING CONFESSION. It ONLY applies to confession. If you told a priest you molested a baby in confession, he will tell you to stop, turn yourself in, pray, whatever but it's up to you to do the right thing. Now if you are NOT in confession like you're hanging out at his house watching TV and you mention it, that is not the sacrament of confession and if he doesn't report it he's a cunt.
HERE: https://www.quora.com/If-you-talk-about-a-crime-in-Catholic-confession-can-the-priest-report-it-to-the-police
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest%E2%80%93penitent_privilege
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P3G.HTM
argosciv ago
In fact the more I think about this, the more it fucking infuriates me actually... the following is an emotionally charged, personal opinion and is likely to offend some, I offer no apology.
They're ALREADY CUNTS for allowing such confessions to be protected. Once upon a time I may have thought differently, that everyone deserves some 'safe place' to reveal even their darkest nature... but FUCK IT! There's a goddamn line, and so far as I'm concerned it AT LEAST starts with child abuse, I could care less what protections religions x/y/z try to justify - if you want an isolated place in which to confess your crimes against children, try jail and then no doubt, very quickly, a coffin.
The priests that let monsters walk back out those doors and into the community they claim to support... let 'em hang(proverbially speaking, ie, put them to the courts and let good honest people(unbiased by religion) decide their fate) for being enablers/accomplices.
F#%$!
HarveyKlinger ago
You're making a lot of assumptions. 1. Most child molesters aren't running to the confessional to tell a priest about it. 2. Someone confessing something as bad as child abuse of any kind will probably not do it face to face with their own priest.
It's the EXACT same privilege that an attorney has with their client. You do realize that attorney client privilege keeps a lawyer from divulging the exact same information, right? Why no similar anger towards lawyers?
DeathTooMasons ago
Catholic priest have a sordid history of abusing children and facing no legal consequences. We already know they are above the law and our society is subverted. Lawyers are not the problem, they are advocates for their clients. Priest pray on children, and cover up crimes. This priest is just a typical scumbag caught up in his own protected fantasy world where consequences for actions never materialize. It's the attitude about what is important that pisses people off. Catholic priest are legal pedos.
HarveyKlinger ago
I"ll post this again. In the past 2 weeks I think I've posted 5 separate articles of school teachers abusing minors. In that time frame, no priests have been accused. School teachers have ten times the abuse rate of children over priests and school teachers are protected by their unions and merely moved to different schools. THIS STILL HAPPENS. Priests have a lower percentage of abuse than school teachers and much less than society in general.
EDIT: Hey look at this: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/27/pennsylvania-teacher-44-accused-sexually-assaulting-male-student.html
argosciv ago
Sorry but this is just plain misdirection,
"School teachers do it; you're overreacting about the priests",
We had a very fair conversation earlier, but, I think even you know that this is a comment of yours (intentionally or otherwise) shifts blame or otherwise attempts to normalize child abuse 'in all corners', responsibility to the responsible.
A human sits in a pew, another sits beside - both are blind(they cannot see each other), nobody else is present.
argosciv ago
sufficient explanation as to why some confessions should not be protected from prosecution?
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