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nameof ago

Evidence? Wendi sue Joiner proof. @quanttokitty is closer to correct than @are_we_sure is, we need evidence hers some...my dr. Small town dr. Director...pretty lady nice friendly lady, in charge for 3 years got my whole community ( it feels like) strung hard on SMOKING PILLS AND METH just like she and other dr.s are doing to themsthemselves, she is strung out hopelessly i geuss, maybe a patsy, a ward, who knows. It was like the 2nd arrest before she was fired. I spent 3 years wondering why my people were so depressed and getting all these pills and I started only talking to the immigrant guatemalan workers in town warning them not to go to the Dr. In Spanish. They don't take drugs as readily anyway. But now, its been a year, we have dead people and she's finally busted. IBut another dr. Just got busted same rhing near by. I guess at least 2 wrongful death lawsuits against wendy, but I heard allot of people died locally, so many meth heads in Marin it's really scary. I used to not know the look, cause it's not always all skinny guant toothless, its a slightly swollen looking face either flushed of bood and pale, or completely Apple red. Not a very good description, but it's hard to know when someone smoked meth, unless they tell you they're doing it. My first experience learning about it, a friend confided she was on it and had been for years, I avoided her after that but the fact she had told me about her using it, brought on huge paranoia for her and she had an episode where she believed I was in her rafters at her home filming her telling her to get off meth, till she called the police on herself, and told them about me in the ceiling...in any case we are still friends, its been about 3 years since, and she is clean of meth but a really hard drinker that's functional. Knowing her has helped clue me in. Not shunning her was a challenge I am grateful for, but don't recommend trying to get close to someone on meth. Meanwhile I know other people who would run you over for meth, but lie. Honesty is best policy with methheads.

http://www.marinij.com/general-news/20160106/marin-clinic-doctor-fired-in-fallout-from-drug-arrest

Are_we_sure ago

Hi, the spread of meth occurred because this missouri man who simplified the way to cook meth around 1990. It spread throughout the Midwest for years before hitting other parts of the country.

http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2017/05/27/man-who-reinvented-meth/330877001/

Oxycontin was responsible for driving the opioid market that we see today.
I recommend the books Methland about meth in Iowa and Dreamland about how heroin followed Oxycontin into Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, etc. Again Oxycontin didn't come out until 1996.

Sam Quinones in his book, Dreamland traces the rural heroin market to "Pill Mills" in Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia where Doctors were freely prescribing Oxycontin. They created the demand, then heroin traffickers from Mexico moved in

Portsmouth was the pill mill capital of America, really. They had more pill mills per capita in that town than anywhere else in the country. Pill mills are where a doctor prescribes pills for cash without almost any diagnosis of any pain problems or anything like that. Pill mills usually have long, long lines — Portsmouth had a dozen of these, and they prescribed millions of pills a year and was one of the main reasons why so many people got addicted there. The godfather of all that was a guy by the name of David Proctor. And by the 1990s when the main painkiller in all this, Oxycontin, is released, he sees this as basically a business model. You can prescribe these pills and people will pay you $250 every month to get that prescription, and you will always have your clinic full. And that's what happened for many years in that town. He also taught a lot of doctors who came to work for him how to run these pill mills. So he became kind of the Ray Kroc, the McDonald's of pill mills ..... Ground zero for the pills is southern Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, places like this. In the mid-'90s, at that same time, across the Mississippi is coming the vanguard of a group of heroin traffickers out of a small town called Xalisco in the state of Nayarit in Mexico who are taking their drugs and looking for new markets. All of this kind of coincides. [Mexican drug cartels] used customer service, they deliver just like pizza delivery, and it really appeals to this new class of addict who were white, really kind of unfamiliar, maybe, a lot of times with the drug world. They don't want to get involved in Skid Row or some housing projects where everyone has always bought dope. A drug addict wants one thing above all and that's reliability. And these guys provided that above all. They relied on being very low-profile. They did not spend their money lavishly. They looked like the day workers outside your Home Depot. They drove old cars, they never used gunplay, drive-by shootings, any of that kind of stuff because, they didn't need to.

https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/Book-Reviews/2015/0428/Dreamland-is-the-must-read-book-about-America-s-heroin-crisis

http://www.npr.org/2015/05/19/404184355/how-heroin-made-its-way-from-rural-mexico-to-small-town-america

nameof ago

I can't argue with that. And I think that more recently people have started smoking their pills, like all the sudden over the last recent years....because that's what Dr. Joiner was doing, smoking fentenol. It was really bad at that time just being around the pharmacy in West marin. Where, when the dr. Wendi bust happened the pharmacist there cut off all her weird super long strange dread locks that would have colorful ribbons and yarn in a huge pile on her head. She's short and white. You have to factor in all the complicity to this and it's not far fetched to reason the upsurge in meth is at least following if not triggered by the upsurge in opioid prescription use and deaths.