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Votescam ago

The LEFT is doing nothing of the kind.
NAMBLA does not represent Liberals. Nor does anyone who suggests that assaulting a child in any way -- sexually or otherwise -- is OK -- nor do they represent liberal thinking or values. This is BS.

AngB23 ago

NAMBLA has already been connected to Antifa. Antifa connected to Libs. Again, not saying this is Libs as a whole but Libs don't seem to speak out at all about either. It's the organizations, like ACLU, that pretend to stand with Libs that are pulling these sick assholes in the mix.

Votescam ago

This is garbage. NAMBLA speaks for themselves and NOT for anti-fascists.

Certainly anyone involved in sexually abusing children or planning to do so is a fascist, an assaulter, a criminal.

Anti-fascists stand against domination of anyone by anyone else -- most especially children. And against the violence used by fascists.

There has been a questionable take-over of the ACLU, as has happened with most organizations, from the Sierra Club to Earth Day now taken over by large corporations.

This is simply "Elite/Royalty minded wealthy" hiding behind a corporate label, but using their wealth to buy, blackmail or otherwise own our elected officials. And it's been going on since time began.

Both parties have been taken over by Koch Bros./John Birch Society and other large corporations. They owned the DLC and recruited Bill Clinton and other Southerners (Al Gore) to use corporate money to take over the Dem Party. Not that the Dem Party wasn't already corrupted by LBJ and his running of prostitution rings to blackmail members of Congress. Murder was also key to LBJ's rise and he had his own private murderer in Malcolm Wallace. See Madelaine Brown for one source of those murders and his management of the coup on JFK/ YouTube See: Bill Sole Estes Testimony before Congress on the murders LBJ was involved with. Back with LINK shortly, I trust.

We haven't had liberals in office since the McCarthy Era.

Right wing only rises on violence and corruption.

This is a liberal nation and the people speak every day, though they have been ignored by right wing government for decades now.

PS ---

Again, not saying this is Libs as a whole

Maybe not you, but right wing here continue to keep trying on this one. Wherever we can see corruption and violence, or assault of children we know that the right wing is involved -- and likely being protected by corrupted government officials. Think of really how little our history books even mention of CHILD LABOR which was an assault on children by wealthy Elites. And they'd return to that system on a dime if a few regulations weren't still standing in their way.

AngB23 ago

I was speaking more of a global scale not just US. The article I attached above re: P.I.E. shows exactly what I'm talking about as to which organizations these Pedos hide behind, and it's usually Lib organizations that feel everyone needs a right to something. The Global .01% Elite manufacture hate groups and use them world wide & spread it like cancer. Notice in these pics how much "Antifa" gets around

https://imgur.com/a/GaZGn

Votescam ago

"and it's usually Lib organizations that feel everyone needs a right to something".

That's the first indication that you've been fed right wing propaganda of lies --

Our Founders actually created an Elite Patriarchy while proclaiming "All are equal" -- endowed them with land grants - and gave them immense influence and control over our people's government, the nation's wealth and natural resources.

If you think Elites are liberals you are very confused.

And Elites/Royals/Church are all involved worldwide in pedophilia and the cover up of pedophilia.

The document . . .

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs...men_english.pdf

and http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=407808&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=

"What you have here is an explicit written policy to cover up cases of child sexual abuse by the clergy and to punish those who would call attention to these crimes by the churchmen.

Pope 'led cover-up of child abuse by priests'by EWAN FLETCHER

The Pope played a leading role in a systematic cover-up of child sex abuse by Roman Catholic priests, according to a shocking documentary to be screened by the BBC tonight.

In 2001, while he was a cardinal, he issued a secret Vatican edict to Catholic bishops all over the world, instructing them to put the Church's interests ahead of child safety.

The document recommended that rather than reporting sexual abuse to the relevant legal authorities, bishops should encourage the victim, witnesses and perpetrator not to talk about it. And, to keep victims quiet, it threatened that if they repeat the allegations they would be excommunicated.

The Panorama special, Sex Crimes And The Vatican, investigates the details of this little-known document for the first time. The programme also accuses the Catholic Church of knowingly harbouring paedophile clergymen. It reveals that priests accused of child abuse are generally not struck off or arrested but simply moved to another parish, often to reoffend. It gives examples of hush funds being used to silence the victims.>

If you think that Organized Patriarchal Religion which underpins Elite Patriarchy is liberal you are highly confused.

Neither the RCC nor its officials/Pope nor priests are liberals -- they are male-supremacists and fascists.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Pope+%27led+cover-up+of+child+abuse+by+priests%27

AngB23 ago

FFS. How can so many people be so damn blind. For the 100th time, I am NOT saying ALL pedos are Libs. The AGENDAS are pushed through LIB causes by manufactured FAKE Lib organizations for a bigger purpose. It's a small push for "equal rights" of bullshit to then push bigger, more sinister agendas (age of consent, screwing kids, Pedo is a mental disorder....).

How many conservative groups are pushing this? None bcuz it wouldn't fly so they tag into Lib orgs. But yes Reps, Dems, -ALL involved. SJWS are just easier to manipulate.

Votescam ago

Then make clear what you are saying ... i.e.,

The AGENDAS are pushed through LIB causes by manufactured FAKE Lib organizations for a bigger purpose<

If you mean FAKE Liberal organizations then say that -- !!

(Btw, since you've now admitted to FAKE liberal organizations being blamed ... just WHO do you think might be creating these FAKE liberal organizations???? ... hmmmm? )

It's always been obvious that the right wing uses FAKERY constantly to try to project their criminal activities onto the left, and it remains a very serious problem for world leaders -- like Russia's leaders who always had to look at events like the JFK assassination and wonder if they would be blamed for it -- and same for Castro.

Actually, JFK, Khruschev and Castro were cooperating in moves towards peace.
And same with 9/11 as Russia was naturally concerned that there would be an attempt to blame them for it.

And this seems to be a regular obsession with a number of posters here ....

It's a small push for "equal rights" of bullshit to then push bigger, more sinister agendas (age of consent, screwing kids, Pedo is a mental disorder....)<

with posts regularly popping up on the same them to point of being a distraction.

Also, YOU are suggesting that Pedophilia is a "mental disorder" ... ?

Are you suggesting that pedophiles don't know right from wrong?
Or that they shouldn't be held responsible for sexually assaulting children?

SJWS .... Social Justice Warriors ... Does that include everyone with a conscience?

I don't know of what political persuasion most criminals are, but active pedophiles are criminals.

AngB23 ago

Do yourself a favor....throughly study Tavistock. If you don't get it then, peace to you

Votescam ago

Would you perhaps like to extend yourself a bit to sum up what you're point is in regard to Tavistock?

http://www.barefootsworld.net/tavistok.html

Other than the reality that we are all manipulated by Elites and their foundations/institutes/ organizations?

And that it was Our Founders who created an Elite Patriarchy here in their betrayal of the population and set them up to defeat freedom and democracy.

The desire for control of every human being and the willingness to use devious means and violence to accomplish that goal exist within all of us.

A very few will actually try to carry out those desires, but humanity has never as yet found a way to deal with the violence of the few.

AngB23 ago

Understanding the purpose of psychological warfare, easy targets, corruption of the educational institution, degrading of moral values, creating a me, myself and I society...it's easy to see what is going on. Pitting people against the other for the rights of their own personal interests versus seeing the world as a whole (we are ONE) allows the top .01% to not only control the people, but push their own agendas- fear, hate, lust, greed, immorality, satanic rituals...

They are tied to our top elite schools, use humans as lab rats without consent just to beak them to study what they can do to the masses. One perfect example, Ted Kaczynski. But because of the courtesy of Harvard enrolling him, unwittingly at the young age of 16, then 17, in a horrible experiment, they completely screwed him up. And he was a genius.

Tavistock connections https://imgur.com/a/dApv5

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1996/eirv23n22-19960524/eirv23n22-19960524_024-tavistocks_imperial_brainwashing.pdf

Example of Tavistock-Harvard-Human Lab rats even at Elite schools. Can't imagine what they do at their own clinic

https://imgur.com/a/jQgMI

And people call him nuts, but he knew things about the system that f'ed him up. His manefesto is telling and chilling. Remember, he wrote this in the 1990s and today, he hit it right on to what is happening.

http://cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt

So we can agree to disagree but to me, it's so obvious what is happening and not sure how else to explain it.

Votescam ago

Ang --

If you understand people who desire to control others and take what they have ....

You understand that motivation and psychology and behavior has long been with us in all of human history --

These are the men who want your land and will take it ... and if you protest they will rape your daughter -- and if you still protest they will kill your son.

And you can be sure your land will also be gone.

What more do you need to know of them...

Whatever positive actions have been carried out by humankind -- whether public education, ethics, medicines -- these people will find a way to destroy it.

They are the destroyers ... they will use every devious means and every means of violence.

Do you actually remember the Inquisition, or the religious bloodbath across European land.. or what the "invaders" did here to native people -- 112 million of them. Or the long history of Africans enslaved here and another 100 years of Segregation in the South. And that was quite some long time before ole Sigmund Freud made the outrageous suggestion in the Oedipus Complex that it was infants, toddlers and young children who were the sexual aggressors against adult males in their families.
Of course, Freud knew the truth of it when he betrayed his young patients/clients who had confided in him their sexual abuse by fathers, grandfathers, uncles, male cousins -- and male friends of the family. It was Betty Friedan who untied women from Freud and dumped him in the garbage can. And he should stay there if we have any intelligence at all on this planet.

And, they are not only tied to our schools and systems, they are in high office everywhere with the CIA providing the tools. These are the people who actually dropped Atomic weapons on citizens in Japan - civilians, women and children. Who have destroyed Nature here and brought us Global Warming.

There are references to CIA-UK and CIA-Australia ....

Yes, it is obvious what Our Founders put in play -- and it was treason -- and there is only one way to respond to it and that is by non-violent revolution. We all have to stop cooperating with the system of Elites and Capitalism and there are many ways to do that.

And most Americans understand it . . . This is a liberal nation which stands against these illegal wars of aggression, the MIC and the NSA and all secrecy in government. Internationally, the numbers are even higher. THEY all understand it. The Q is what to do about it.

PS: Certainly Ted Kaczynski was controlled ... that is very clear.

AngB23 ago

I agree with you except.....that's part of the problem. We talk about black slaves, never about all the past white slaves or the fact free blacks owned black slaves. (So one "group" can feel the anger and be used later). Hell blacks are slaves to black still in Africa, but MSM will never talk about that. We never talk about other genocides, far worse than the Halocaust or how many, powerful "Jews" helped Nazis kill Jews. (The rise of anti-semitism. again, to protect a certain class for them to hide behind) History is distorted for agendas.

Native American Indians...the real victims for sure. As far as a Liberal Nation, I guess my feeling of the fabricated word of Liberal has been twisted and distorted so much that I hope we all rise as something else, like, Freedom Fighters. A name not created for us, but by us. We're all enslaved to the system and always have been. But I do believe we are in agreement, just word things differently.

And yes, Kaczynski was broke down, but I truly believe bcuz he was something like 168 I.Q., he was able to keep some wits about him when he wrote that manefesto and his bombs were deliberate to certain targeted individuals. Was it right, hell no, but I understood why.

Votescam ago

Ang --

Why don't you talk about "white slaves" ... ?

Or about "free blacks who owned salves" ... ?

Of course there is nothing that existed on this land that in any way compares with the level of violence, brutality, cruelty which existed in the Genocide against Native people here, or concerning Africans enslaved here for hundreds of years, including another 100 years of Segregation after the Emancipation taking us into the late 1960's. And Elites still attempt in every way possible to recreate those times here. And it was Vatican Papal Edicts which authorized the "enslavement or killing" of native people and Africans here. In fact, the Vatican's concept of native people was that they were "pagans" and any non-Christians could be treated as less than human -- they could be fed to dogs.

You also seem to be confusing bondage with slavery ... some it more like being a valet, actually.

Clearly you are the victim of misdirection by the right wing and I'd recommend that you do your own research rather than trust those who have already deceived you.

"It is harder to convince someone that they have been fooled than to fool them."

True -- the right wing has lied about liberalism and always will. Follow the violence and you will recognize the right wing and the deceivers and destroyers.

But this is a liberal nation and if you at all followed the Bernie Sanders campaign you see the overwhelming response of the nation to his recitation of liberal ideals and values.
Certainly, had the DNC not stolen the nomination from Bernie for Hillary, Bernie would have won the election. And there is no better word than "liberal" to describe freedom. I'd avoid anything with "Fighters" in the title as any revolution has to be non-violent and there are many ways to do that.

We are all LABOR -- which is a universal force to unite humankind. We do not need the permission of government nor corporations to unite as LABOR in our own interests. We are wage slaves subject to the greed of Elites.

CIA may have used Kaczynski. Remember FEAR is Mind Control and the public must be kept fearful.

Try to get off the anti-Jew kick -- it doesn't do much for your image.

AngB23 ago

I'm not misdirected by right wing. I just like to read old books

https://imgur.com/a/EPPOD

And if you don't see Bernie as a paid puppet when he stood behind HRC & the very camp that stole the elections from him, then I don't know what else to say, he could have flung this all wide open and chose not to. All of these parties, Dem, Rep, LIB are manufactured for one reason...divide & conquer.

And I'm not on an anti-Jew kick. That's laughable. I'm anti Zionist. BIG difference. Just like these REAL Jews who protested soon after Trump was elected and Bibi came here to visit. Of course, MSM didn't cover this protest. It wasn't part of the agenda to get people to ask why on earth are Jews protesting. Are they also anti-semetic too? LMAO

https://imgur.com/a/hrkR5

well, I'd say it has a lot to do with these type of "Jews" -Warburgs. They were many others (even besides Soros) they PLANNED to get Jews exterminated or removed from Israel and worked WITH Nazis to accomplish their goal.

https://imgur.com/a/137B3

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_family

https://imgur.com/a/3IFac

Again, we can agree to disagree. Im sick and tired of the uneducated hate groups that take what these "leaders & history books" say for face value. Taking a line from Rush "All the world is a stage and we are merely players". Reality of oppression, slavery, genocide is real but very distorted. I simply have chosen to lift the veil. If others choose to live with eyes wide shut, it's their life to do so I guess.

Votescam ago

Ang -- You don't explain your link -- what are you suggesting it is and how does it relate to what you're suggesting?

And - The reality is you don't talk about "white slaves" or "free blacks who owned slaves" because nothing like that has happened here. In fact, it is wholly the opposite.

Bernie may very well be a puppet, but he has been a very effective voice for and given leadership to liberal issues ... like National Health Care for All, like eliminating interest on student loans and returning to usary laws, like Social Security, Public Education for all even at levels of colleges and universities, restoring regulations on Wall Street, controlling the pricing of Big Pharma and investigating their drugs/vaccines, etal. If Bernie is to be of any future value to liberals and the issues he allegedly supports in heading movements for labor or health, he has to separate himself from the DP which is just as owned by Elites/wealthy/corporations as the GOP is owned by them. Time will tell. But as long as Bernie wants to lead liberal movements and unite the nation on these liberals issues, I have no problem with it. We don't really know what may be holding Bernie to DP... whether it is the fear of Trump-fascism he speaks of, or whether he has been threatened. Again, time will tell.

The numbers of voters no longer voting in America, imo, reflects the increasing understanding that our elections are rigged and long have been. And, I think what the voters saw last Spring/Summer in the Bernie campaign will result in many more Americans not voting.

And, this is good .... And I'm not on an anti-Jew kick. That's laughable. I'm anti Zionist

but, if you're anti-Zionist and not anti-Jew, then make that clear because there certainly is a difference.

Netanyahu and the right wing in Israel were responsible for the murder of Rabin who was moving toward peace.
MANY liberals (including Jews) protested his visit with Trump. The days of being challenged on the internet as being anti-Semitic for protesting Israel's genocide vs Palestinians are long over.
Israel was US/CIA first foothold in the Middle East and more often it looks like US/CIA policy being carried out via Netanyahu and the right wing there. And Israel has been well used by the US since its creation, while the liberal and peace-loving Israelis have been buried. AND, you seem to be confirming what I am saying to you above ... here ...

PLANNED to get Jews exterminated or removed from Israel and worked WITH Nazis to accomplish their goal.>

We can simply agree to disagree -- but I think we're actually making some headway in understanding one another at this point.

Of course, "Rush" Limbaugh is a right wing propagandist for the GOP -- officially acknowledged by the GOP and esteemed for his work for them - but his quote as I presume you know is from Shakespeare ...

All the world's a stage,

And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His acts being seven ages. At first, the infant ...

Last scene of all, That ends this strange eventful history, Is second childishness and mere oblivion, Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.>

My feeling has always been that only the spirit is real and our bodies the costumes we wear .. and there may be many lives which is why I often think we suffer for the concept of Reincarnation having been overturned. It was once taught by all the major religions, but that was ended as ... "it became inconvenient for Elites/wealthy."

And, of course, Rush has always been sexist and homophobic -- and it's likely he is also a pedophile.

You aren't lifting any veils that other researchers before you haven't lifted.

And I would suggest that if what you are reading has any value or wisdom to it, you should be able to move that into your comments to help open the minds of other readers here.