Could Trump be taking measures to stop human trafficking in Colombia and Venezuela before the elite take advantage of the desparate situation? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Commoner

Mike Pence was in Colombia to discuss Trump's seemingly odd, recent remark on possible military action in Venezuela. The two countries border each other and Venezuelans are fleeing their country on a massive scale.

Here is link to Pence's visit:

http://www.nola.com/national_politics/2017/08/in_colombia_vp_mike_pence_call.html

CARTAGENA, Colombia -- Demonstrating the delicate balancing act that has come to define his vice presidency, Mike Pence tried to strike a balance Sunday in Colombia between Latin American opposition to possible U.S. military intervention in neighboring Venezuela, and President Donald Trump's surprising refusal to rule out that option. .. Trump's startling comments Friday sparked backlash across the region, including from Venezuela's chief opposition coalition and the Colombian government.

Here is link to article about how the massive influx of Venezuelans into Colombia creates a very good opportunity for the underworld to take advantage of the desperate Venezuelans.

http://todayvenezuela.com/2017/08/13/fleeing-venezuelans-a-business-opportunity-for-organized-crime/

The migration of Venezuelans to Colombia has historically been quite low, but in recent years has increased by 40 percent due to the volatile political climate, insecurity and dire economic conditions. Asylum requests by Venezuelans in Colombia have increased six-fold since last year, and there are currently 140,000 undocumented Venezuelans living in the country, according to Colombia’s national immigration service, and that number is growing....But Colombia’s underworld may benefit the most from Venezuelan migration and desperation.

So guess who has released three news items about violence in Colombia and the need for more assistance for Colombians? I have not heard about any increased in violence in Colombia, not that the MSM would tell us.

It is Doctors Without Borders, or MSF

Here is one release, followed by links to two others.

http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/colombia-people-continue-suffer-violence-despite-peace-deal

MSF calls for an increased response to mental health needs and comprehensive care to help people deal with effects of prolonged violence.

NEW YORK/BOGOTA, AUGUST 17, 2017—Violence remains a major problem for many people in Colombia despite the peace deal the government and FARC-EP signed last year, according to a report released today by the international medical humanitarian organization Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).

http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/survivor-sexual-violence-colombia

http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/colombia-%E2%80%9Cviolence-isn%E2%80%99t-only-something-out-there-it-also-exists-within-home%E2%80%9D

This is related to Pizzagate because Doctors without Borders has been associated with trafficking of humans, including children, for their organs. Here is a previous voat submission with some info.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1909343

I just wonder if Trump's remark about taking military action in Venezuela for purpose of curbing the human suffering by Venezuelans was a signal to the elite that he is aware of their plans for human trafficking in the area.

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RweSure ago

The post you link to has no evidence for this claim

This is related to Pizzagate because Doctors without Borders has been associated with trafficking of humans, including children, for their organs. Here is a previous voat submission with some info.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1909343

Commoner ago

The founder of MSF Bernard Kouchner was strongly implicated in organ trafficking from prisoners. I edited my post to show that. His denial of the possibility of the existence of a bloody yellow house was almost comedic. Investigators later found a white house with yellow paint underneath in the exact location where witnesses said it would be. They found medical supplies buried in the back. You know that saying about" protesting too much".

RweSure ago

The founder of MSF Bernard Kouchner was strongly implicated in organ trafficking from prisoners.

Nonsense. Kouchner was involved in EVALUATING THESE CLAIMS. This link is just ludicrous. https://thebloodyellowhouse.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/bernard-kouchner-involved-in-albanian-organ-market/

The Wikipedia link makes it clear these rumors of organ harvesting have never been proven. That these are allegations and there is substantial doubt to these allegations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

According to UN allegations.....concluded there was insufficient evidence to prove that the organ harvesting ring existed......many members of the European Parliament have expressed serious doubts regarding the report and its foundations, believing Marty failed to provide "any evidence" concerning the allegations.....The fact is that there is no evidence whatsoever in this case, no bodies. No witnesses......established that the women died of natural causes and were not victims of organ trafficking.....a Kosovo Serb and two Serbian citizens, accused of being provocateurs, were arrested by the Kosovo Police for allegedly offering money in exchange for statements confirming organ trading and to mediators finding such information. The three have been investigated for inciting people to falsely testify that they were victims of organ harvesting.....But constant revelations in the Serbian press that new evidence, or new witnesses have emerged for the organ-trafficking allegations, have all proven either false, or unsubstantiated," according to BBC News. One EULEX investigator called it a "fairy-tale". A source close to the Serbian investigation was also quoted as saying "I still believe something happened there, but nothing on the scale of what has been suggested... and possibly not even connected to the KLA....The Wall Street Journal published an article by Denis MacShane questioning the allegations in Marty's report. According to a former prosecutor in the case against Slobodan Milosevic, Sir Geoffrey Nice, the Marty report provides no evidence, no victims and a witness that does not exist.

Bernard Kouchner has said he agrees there were abuses and secret prison camps, but that Marty investigation and the Del Ponte did not prove their claims and he would welcome an investigation into these charges. In short, he agrees with all the doubt expressed above.

Three years after he made that comment, the investigation to look into the charges of the Marty report found

An EU report said top Kosovo Liberation Army officials will be prosecuted for crimes against humanity including murders and abductions but there was not enough evidence yet for organ-trafficking indictments.

He said there were “compelling indications” that “a few individuals were killed with the intention of extracting their organs” by KLA fighters.

But the allegations that hundreds of prisoners were killed and their organs sold was “totally unsupported”.

“There are no indications that this was widespread,” he said.

He explained that there was not enough evidence for any organ-trafficking indictments yet, but prosecutions could not be ruled out in the future.

So NO. KOUCHNER IS NOT IMPLICATED IN ORGAN TRAFFICKING.

Commoner ago

He is definitely implicated. Kind of like OJ and the Clintons. Every knows they are guilty. They just didn't get found guilty. At least, not yet with the Clintons.

RweSure ago

Bullshit.

Show me an accusation.