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Blacksmith21 ago

I'm not signing into YT to link to the video. The Vice News piece "inside the white nationalists" is laughable. Same groups of people cut from different angles. Not a single tattoo in sight. No AB affiliation. The "producers" of this video obviously have no idea what the real "white power" movement looks like.

Anyone that thinks C'Ville was the real deal at this point has lost all critical thinking skills.

Are_We_Sure....you can continue playing devil's advocate. But I'll throw this out here for you - exploit all imagery and video on the internet you like - show me one sign/logo/tshirt/tattoo/etc of a chapter affiliation. Show me one use of those retarded logos (not confederate flag, etc.). The stupid looking ones. None of this shit as legit. Anyone who has ever worked around these sorts know they blaze their "colors". They are inked. They show their chapter affiliation. Hell, they kill each other over intersect rivalries.

Oh, and Kessler, the "leader" - Obama supporter and Occupy fag up until 2016. Gee....I wonder what the fuck happened? Oh I know - the Deep State hired him to build a fake identity.

So have at it @Are_We_Sure - Present us with a forensic example using quantifiable photos from other Klan and Nazi realities over the last 5 years and give us a compare and contrast. If you can't step up to this challenge, then anything you state from this point forward should be considered 100% invalid.

What say ye?

Are_we_sure ago

Your argument rests on a pretty big flaw. No one said this represented the complete whole of white nationalism. You are also trying an argument tactic called "No True Scotsman."

Do you accept Richard Spencer as a member of the Alt Right? Because he was there and leader of this thing. He's more fashy haircut than a tattoo kind of guy. Do you think he has been faking who he is for the past decade?

Not Hardcore enough for you? How about head of the Florida League of the South, Michael Tubbs? He was an Amry sergeant with the Special Forces until he was arrested for stealing guns and explosives for the Klan back in the 1980's. Is he a True Scotsman? Because he was there too.

Blacksmith21 ago

I love it when self-proclaimed pseudo intellectuals attempt to make an argument that blows up in their face.

1) There is no such thing as the "alt-right". Your use of it as a legitimate phrase establishes that you believe in its existence. "Alt-right" is a machination of the media, created to try and label and categorize Americans who the left (people like you) deem enemies of its "Utopian ideals".

2) Spencer was kicked out of CPAC. He receives no endorsements from the establishment right. You seem to be making an argument that myself or anyone else is denying the existence of white nationalist groups. Not the case.

Here is Richard's bio - does anyone else here think this sounds like the background of a White Nationalist? Actually, it does, when you compare it to Hitler's background. Hitler was a Bohemian as well.

"Spencer was born in Boston, Massachusetts,[12] the son of ophthalmologist Rand Spencer and Sherry Spencer (née Dickenhorst),[13][14] an heiress to cotton farms in Louisiana.[15] He grew up in Dallas, Texas. In 1997, he graduated from St. Mark's School of Texas.[15] In 2001, Spencer received a B.A. with High Distinction in English Literature and Music from the University of Virginia and, in 2003, an M.A. in the Humanities from the University of Chicago.[15] He spent the summer of 2005 and 2006 at the Vienna International Summer University.[16] From 2005 to 2007, he was a doctoral student at Duke University studying modern European intellectual history, where he was a member of the Duke Conservative Union.[15][13] His website says he left Duke "to pursue a life of thought-crime."[17]"

Sounds like one of your (leftist) people.

3) Kessler - Obama supporter and Occupy organizer in 2016.

4) Tubbs - You do realize that the firearms charges against him carried a mandatory minimum of 30-years per charge involving automatic firearms. Spencer probably took 100+ years in sentencing. But yet he is out of prison? A white supremacist? Really? No, he became an informant for the FBI, he's on their payroll, and the Deep State brought him out of mothballs for an occasion like this because of his "street cred".

You can try all of the philosophical double-speak and linguistic maneuvering, but at the end of the day, you make no case, no point, or state any fact. It's probably a good thing investigative abilities aren't required for your paycheck, or you'd be eating Ramen.

Oh, you may want to watch American History X for a better perspective of how these little sects of white supremacy groups operate.

Are_we_sure ago

NO TRUE SCOTSMEN!

Also I never claimed I was talking about CPAC. That's a massive non sequitur.

So to learn about the new groups active in 2017, you want me to watch a movie from 1998 about different types of groups.

Sounds reasonable.

"Alt-right" is a machination of the media,

This is bullshit and you know it.

Blacksmith21 ago

Again, you dodged every point I made. You know nothing.

Are_we_sure ago

Of course, I don't I have to watch a 20 year old movie you suggested first.

Then I'm going to look into this great guide to today's organized crime groups called The Godfather.