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Mentika ago

There were staged elements, but 95% of people showing up were real patriots. I know a few of them and they are law abiding good people.

bb22 ago

This is right. The organizers (like Jason Kessler) may have been shills but there really is a lot of support just for preserving Confederate monuments. The real history of the Civil War has never been taught by our public education system, simply because the feds won.

Short version:

Before Civil War: "These United States are..."

After Civil War: "The United States is..."

You see what happened there? This is what they have always wanted us to forget, among many other uncomfortable facts about this period. This is the big change even in the legal language that accompanied the Civil War. Exactly what Brussels is trying to do to Europe with the EU. Same exact shit.

survey_girl ago

"whoever wins the war writes the history"

It is crazy how polarizing this issue is. The northerns have always been taught that the south was racist & wanted slavery - and to an extent that is true, but they do not see the big picture that the war was about states rights... Lincoln only abolished slavery as a way to punish the south - he didn't give a shit about blacks & their human rights. They could have just let the south secede, but they needed all that tax money & the south is where the food was grown.

bb22 ago

It was even about a lot more than states' rights and slavery if you go even deeper into it, but the conflict gets murkier the further into the past you go. The Yankees were mostly descended from religious nuts like Puritans and Quakers who were either super liberal or super conservative for their day, while the Southern states were founded by more common British people, albeit typically the poor, criminals and debtors. Virginia was literally founded as a business with the sole aim of making profit, but it ended up making the colonists themselves very rich by comparison to other colonies as well. We kept very old Celtic, Scottish and Germanic traditions alive like the Puritans did not, because they were in effect proto-Marxists who sought to erase all culture that didn't meet their ideological criteria. The ancient common law traditions, combined with Renaissance and Enlightenment thought, formed the basis of our Constitution and entire federal system of government, which has been a light to the world. This all came out of the South, not the North.

Vindicator ago

Great comment, bb22. I do believe this is what the Civil War was truly about -- big government.