Can someone summarize why they think this is a false flag because the chief of staff of the ex- Congressman from Charlottesville was at a giant national political event in Charlottesville????
Wouldn't you expect political types to witness this?
Brennan Gilmore being there is an odd coinkydink.
Like this comment just seems silly. No he's not a coincidence, it was a big public rally and he went to it.
So what was unusual about his being there? The former Congressman was there too. If Nazis came to my hood, I would certainly be there.
I mean, fuck, these shitheads led a torchlit March screaming Blood and Soul through the streets of Charlottesville the night before? You think folks wouldn't change their Saturday plans?
"he's not a coincidence, it was a big public rally and he went to it."
Right on cue AreWeSure shows up to allay any suspicion a contractor for THE STATE DEPARTMENT is through random chance the first person chosen by the media to interview at an event eerily similar to a "Nazi" "white power" march in Ukraine right before their democratically elected government was overthrown by a Soros funded NGO Fascists.
And we're talking almost identical right down to the same slogan which was, ding ding ding, "Blood and Soil". That's right AreWeSure they weren't shouting "Blood and Soul" they were shouting "Blood and SOIL" just like the Soros backed neo "Nazis" in Ukraine. Of course here in America we have the Smith-Mundt "Modernization" Act of 2012 that allows the STATE DEPARTMENT to sanctify the whole thing and pass it off as real to the American public via the MSM.
"Or does your ridiculous interpretation of Smith Mundt allow you to kill people?"
I forgot to answer. No I don't think Smith-Mundt allows killing people but I detect a weakness in your defense. You surely must now admit the possibility that at least part of the events at Charlottesville were Smith-Mundt 2012 sanctioned "Domestic Diplomacy Broadcasting"? Yes?
You surely must now admit the possibility that at least part of the events at Charlottesville were Smith-Mundt 2012 sanctioned "Domestic Diplomacy
No. It's not. It's not even worth discussing it with you, because your sense of what Smith Mundt is and what the 2012 change did is so whacked. It's like I told you that the Boston Celtics will not win the World Series this year and you want to argue about how good the players are. It's really not going to be fruitful.
Looking at what you posted now and it's just ridiculous.
Proof Brennan Gilmore was there is a news interview with him:
Or you could check his twitter feed.
More evidence of Gilmore's State Department work and subsequent deletion of it in the MSM.
This whole goofiness is based on the fact that NY Times published an article on the 12 and then updated and edited the article. Have you not noticed this before? This happens all the time with breaking story. You claim the edits were to no longer mention this guy WHO NO LONGER WORKS at the State Department. (Did that slip by you? Because, you know you could check the guy's twitter feed. Because I see no evidence this guy is hiding anything
Brennan Gilmore
@brennanmgilmore
Rural workforce development. Former: Chief of Staff, @tomperriello, Foreign Service Officer. Always musician: Kantara, Walker's Run
You know what else changed? The headline, the opening paragraphs, the number dead, the placement of Trump's remarks. Oh they also added the drivers identity, the helicopter crash that kiled two. The whole article was basically edited and rewritten from top to bottom as more news on this event came in.
see this
Car rams into crowd as violence erupts at white nationalist rally
CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. — A planned protest in Virginia by white nationalists was abandoned on Saturday after a spate of violence prompted the governor to declare a state of emergency and law enforcement officers to clear the area.
The demonstration, which both organizers and critics had said was the largest gathering of white nationalists in recent years, turned violent almost immediately and left at least one person dead and a number of people injured. “I am heartbroken that a life has been lost here,” Mayor Mike Signer, said on social media.
In comments from Bedminster, New Jersey, President Donald Trump condemned the violence and called for the swift restoration of order. “We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides,” he said.
vs this
Car plows into crowd of counterprotesters in Charlottesville, killing one and injuring 34
The city of Charlottesville was engulfed by violence Saturday as white nationalists and counterprotesters clashed in one of the bloodiest fights to date over the removal of Confederate monuments across the South.
White nationalists had long planned a demonstration over the city’s decision to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee. But the rally quickly exploded into racial taunting, shoving and outright brawling, prompting the governor to declare a state of emergency and the National Guard to join police in clearing the area.
Those skirmishes mostly resulted in cuts and bruises. But after the rally at a city park was dispersed, a car bearing Ohio license plates traveling at a "high rate of speed" plowed into a line of cars, in an episode that left a 32-year-old woman dead and injured at least 19 other people who were protesting a rally staged by white nationalists. Some 34 others were injured; at least 19 in the crash, according to a spokeswoman for the University of Virginia Medical Center.
There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved in any way with this rally. An ex-State Department employee who LIVES IN CHARLOTTESVILLE filmed and tweeted about the event. Then he was interviewed about what he witnessed.
"This whole goofiness is based on the fact that NY Times published an article on the 12 and then updated and edited the article."
Straw Man. The issue isn't the NY Times updating their article. The issue is an ex State Department contractor appeared to be handling PR which is really really really odd since Smith-Mundt 2012 SPECIFICALLY applies to ONLY the State Department. Most naive person yada yada yada.......
"You know what else changed?"
More of the same Straw Man. 10 point penalty for beating a dead horse.
"There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved"
[Insert N word here] please. You can't dismiss evidence you don't agree with. Brennan Gilmore has connections to the State Department. You're not allowed to dismiss evidence you don't like.
Besides there's tons of other evidence. The driver's mother is a paraplegic but didn't have a handicap license plate. Yes she could have had a placard on her rear view mirror but the standard these days is getting it on your license plate so it doesn't block your, ding ding ding, field of view.
Then there's the Charlottesville "Nazis" were literally shouting the same slogan Ukrainian Nazis were shouting: "Blood and Soil". I have never heard anyone in my entire life ever say the words "Blood and Soil". The use of the term is screaming hoax.
Let's have another review of the Scientific Method. I am 99.99% certain by now you did not major or take any classes in the fields of Science Technology Engineering and Math. You're just not getting the concept of Objectivity. Here goes. Ready?
Please don't use words whose meanings you don't understand.
"There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved"
[Insert N word here] please. Brennan Gilmore has connections to the State Department.
This is just incredibly poor reasoning. I used to work in a Dairy Queen. If I do something today, that does mean Dairy Queen is behind what I do? Or even knows about it.
You can't dismiss evidence you don't agree with.
You still haven't provided any evidence the State Department was involved. You don't even seem to understand that. You also can't make up evidence of State Department involvement. Question, what evidence have provided that the State Department knew anything about what Gilmore was doing, let alone had any influence on it?
My original statement still stands "There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved"
I am 99.99% certain by now you did not major or take any classes in the fields of Science Technology Engineering and Math. You're just not getting the concept of Objectivity. Here goes. Ready?
You're 99.99% certain on a lot of things that are false. That's not really a good standard.
Straw Man. The issue isn't the NY Times updating their article. The issue is an ex State Department contractor appeared to be handling PR which is really really really odd
"Handling PR?" I'm not sure you actually understand what PR entails. Any citizen. Even one who worked for the State Department or a Charlottesville congressman can have a twitter feed and videoblog on it. That's not PR.
If you have any evidence whatsoever that the State Department knew of and was involved in what he did please provide it. If you do not, we can safely ignore your claims as evidence free.
"Please don't use words whose meanings you don't understand."
Vindictive: having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.
Attacking me for calling you vindictive...........is vindictive.
50 point penalty for being intentionally obtuse. And you're lucky it wasn't 100 because being vindictive over the use of vindictive is a micro-aggression.
O_O
"I used to work in a Dairy Queen...........You still haven't provided any evidence the State Department was involved."
You're attacking an observation which is an extreme no no in science. You never throw out evidence. There is a connection between Gilmore and the State Department. There's also a connection between Gilmore's T.V. interview and Smith-Mundt "Public Diplomacy BROADCASTING". Deal with it.
Then you place the burden of proof on me to show concrete evidence as if you think the State Department was handing out leaflets proclaiming the event a Smith-Mundt Special. Really? Concrete evidence like that would only come from a subpoena. In fact it's absurd you would dismiss my theory using that logic. And actually I think a subpoena is in the works: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2063189.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the process works. People like you and me, witnesses, bystanders, even police detectives make observations. We gather raw evidence. If there's enough evidence then a District Attorney would step in with a subpoena and do some real digging for the concrete evidence you're looking for. You demanding concrete evidence FROM ME is almost laughable.
You've made this same mistake time and time again here. It's more of the same: "Nothing to see here folks. Move along!". You're not getting paid to "Resist!" here right?
Revenge? No. So perhaps you have the word right and the psychology completely wrong. You don't affect me enough to care about revenge. You affect me for as long as your stupidity on my screen. Then you no longer exist.
There is a connection between Gilmore and the State Department.
There was. You have no evidence is ongoing AND that connection was part of why he was videoblogging. Your assertion is Evidence Free and thus can be ignored.
There's also a connection between Gilmore's T.V. interview and Smith-Mundt "Public Diplomacy BROADCASTING". Deal with it.
LOLOLOLO. This is beyond evidence free and more like evidence free + paint huffing.
Let me ask you a question. Take this Gilmore guy out of the equation. Does it change anything at all about our understanding of the event which was witnessed by hundreds of people and photographed and videoed by many?
"Your assertion is Evidence Free and thus can be ignored."
This must be one of the times you skipped reading what I wrote because I addressed the very issue...........which makes your vindictive "stupidity on my screen" all the more ironic.
Anyway let's try again. Copy pasta:
You're attacking an observation which is an extreme no no in science. You never throw out evidence. There is a connection between Gilmore and the State Department. There's also a connection between Gilmore's T.V. interview and Smith-Mundt "Public Diplomacy BROADCASTING". Deal with it.
Then you place the burden of proof on me to show concrete evidence as if you think the State Department was handing out leaflets proclaiming the event a Smith-Mundt Special. Really? Concrete evidence like that would only come from a subpoena. In fact it's absurd you would dismiss my theory using that logic. And actually I think a subpoena is in the works: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2063189.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the process works. People like you and me, witnesses, bystanders, even police detectives make observations. We gather raw evidence. If there's enough evidence then a District Attorney would step in with a subpoena and do some real digging for the concrete evidence you're looking for. You demanding concrete evidence FROM ME is almost laughable.
You've made this same mistake time and time again here. It's more of the same: "Nothing to see here folks. Move along!". You're not getting paid to "Resist!" here right?
That's like if we're two detectives working in DC and someone is killed by a sniper. We find out the license plate of a car seen leaving the area belongs to former Army sniper John Allen Muhammad.
I then say to you:
"Hey, the license plate of one of the cars leaving the area belongs to a former Army sniper. That's kind of suspicious given the person killed was shot right between the eyes. Maybe we want to dig a little into this guy."
And you respond:
"Hold up DarkMath! That's a 'giant leaping to conclusions about that observation' don't you think? John Allen Muhammad isn't in the Army anymore silly."
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RweSure ago
Can someone summarize why they think this is a false flag because the chief of staff of the ex- Congressman from Charlottesville was at a giant national political event in Charlottesville???? Wouldn't you expect political types to witness this?
Like this comment just seems silly. No he's not a coincidence, it was a big public rally and he went to it.
So what was unusual about his being there? The former Congressman was there too. If Nazis came to my hood, I would certainly be there.
I mean, fuck, these shitheads led a torchlit March screaming Blood and Soul through the streets of Charlottesville the night before? You think folks wouldn't change their Saturday plans?
DarkMath ago
"he's not a coincidence, it was a big public rally and he went to it."
Right on cue AreWeSure shows up to allay any suspicion a contractor for THE STATE DEPARTMENT is through random chance the first person chosen by the media to interview at an event eerily similar to a "Nazi" "white power" march in Ukraine right before their democratically elected government was overthrown by
a Soros funded NGOFascists.And we're talking almost identical right down to the same slogan which was, ding ding ding, "Blood and Soil". That's right AreWeSure they weren't shouting "Blood and Soul" they were shouting "Blood and SOIL" just like the Soros backed neo "Nazis" in Ukraine. Of course here in America we have the Smith-Mundt "Modernization" Act of 2012 that allows the STATE DEPARTMENT to sanctify the whole thing and pass it off as real to the American public via the MSM.
And done........That was exactly four and a half minutes.
How was it for you? God I pounded your ass hard on this one. I should have my dick bronzed.
:-D
God I miss the 1980s right now so much it hurts.
RweSure ago
You're an exceedingly stupid person.
He was not picked at random. He had tweeting footage all day long. They went to him because of his tweets.
And yes, I meant to type soil. Mean culpa.
So do believe the woman died? Or does your ridiculous interpretation of Smith Mundt allow you to kill people?
DarkMath ago
"Or does your ridiculous interpretation of Smith Mundt allow you to kill people?"
I forgot to answer. No I don't think Smith-Mundt allows killing people but I detect a weakness in your defense. You surely must now admit the possibility that at least part of the events at Charlottesville were Smith-Mundt 2012 sanctioned "Domestic Diplomacy Broadcasting"? Yes?
:-D
RweSure ago
No. It's not. It's not even worth discussing it with you, because your sense of what Smith Mundt is and what the 2012 change did is so whacked. It's like I told you that the Boston Celtics will not win the World Series this year and you want to argue about how good the players are. It's really not going to be fruitful.
Looking at what you posted now and it's just ridiculous.
Or you could check his twitter feed.
This whole goofiness is based on the fact that NY Times published an article on the 12 and then updated and edited the article. Have you not noticed this before? This happens all the time with breaking story. You claim the edits were to no longer mention this guy WHO NO LONGER WORKS at the State Department. (Did that slip by you? Because, you know you could check the guy's twitter feed. Because I see no evidence this guy is hiding anything
So Let's see what the Times edited
Here's a paper that still has the early article
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/national/car-rams-into-crowd-as-violence-erupts-at-white-nationalist-rally-20170812
and here's one with the updated article
http://buffalonews.com/2017/08/12/violent-clashes-cause-charlottesville-declare-state-emergency/
You know what else changed? The headline, the opening paragraphs, the number dead, the placement of Trump's remarks. Oh they also added the drivers identity, the helicopter crash that kiled two. The whole article was basically edited and rewritten from top to bottom as more news on this event came in.
see this
vs this
There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved in any way with this rally. An ex-State Department employee who LIVES IN CHARLOTTESVILLE filmed and tweeted about the event. Then he was interviewed about what he witnessed.
DarkMath ago
"Or you could check his twitter feed."
Vindictive. 5 point penalty.
"This whole goofiness is based on the fact that NY Times published an article on the 12 and then updated and edited the article."
Straw Man. The issue isn't the NY Times updating their article. The issue is an ex State Department contractor appeared to be handling PR which is really really really odd since Smith-Mundt 2012 SPECIFICALLY applies to ONLY the State Department. Most naive person yada yada yada.......
"You know what else changed?"
More of the same Straw Man. 10 point penalty for beating a dead horse.
"There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved"
[Insert N word here] please. You can't dismiss evidence you don't agree with. Brennan Gilmore has connections to the State Department. You're not allowed to dismiss evidence you don't like.
Besides there's tons of other evidence. The driver's mother is a paraplegic but didn't have a handicap license plate. Yes she could have had a placard on her rear view mirror but the standard these days is getting it on your license plate so it doesn't block your, ding ding ding, field of view.
Then there's the Charlottesville "Nazis" were literally shouting the same slogan Ukrainian Nazis were shouting: "Blood and Soil". I have never heard anyone in my entire life ever say the words "Blood and Soil". The use of the term is screaming hoax.
Let's have another review of the Scientific Method. I am 99.99% certain by now you did not major or take any classes in the fields of Science Technology Engineering and Math. You're just not getting the concept of Objectivity. Here goes. Ready?
Bad: Conclusion -> Observation
Good: Observation -> Conclusion
:-)
Are_we__sure ago
Please don't use words whose meanings you don't understand.
"There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved"
This is just incredibly poor reasoning. I used to work in a Dairy Queen. If I do something today, that does mean Dairy Queen is behind what I do? Or even knows about it.
You still haven't provided any evidence the State Department was involved. You don't even seem to understand that. You also can't make up evidence of State Department involvement. Question, what evidence have provided that the State Department knew anything about what Gilmore was doing, let alone had any influence on it? My original statement still stands "There is literally no evidence that the State Department was involved"
You're 99.99% certain on a lot of things that are false. That's not really a good standard.
"Handling PR?" I'm not sure you actually understand what PR entails. Any citizen. Even one who worked for the State Department or a Charlottesville congressman can have a twitter feed and videoblog on it. That's not PR.
If you have any evidence whatsoever that the State Department knew of and was involved in what he did please provide it. If you do not, we can safely ignore your claims as evidence free.
DarkMath ago
"Please don't use words whose meanings you don't understand."
Vindictive: having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.
Attacking me for calling you vindictive...........is vindictive.
50 point penalty for being intentionally obtuse. And you're lucky it wasn't 100 because being vindictive over the use of vindictive is a micro-aggression.
O_O
"I used to work in a Dairy Queen...........You still haven't provided any evidence the State Department was involved."
You're attacking an observation which is an extreme no no in science. You never throw out evidence. There is a connection between Gilmore and the State Department. There's also a connection between Gilmore's T.V. interview and Smith-Mundt "Public Diplomacy BROADCASTING". Deal with it.
Then you place the burden of proof on me to show concrete evidence as if you think the State Department was handing out leaflets proclaiming the event a Smith-Mundt Special. Really? Concrete evidence like that would only come from a subpoena. In fact it's absurd you would dismiss my theory using that logic. And actually I think a subpoena is in the works: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2063189.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the process works. People like you and me, witnesses, bystanders, even police detectives make observations. We gather raw evidence. If there's enough evidence then a District Attorney would step in with a subpoena and do some real digging for the concrete evidence you're looking for. You demanding concrete evidence FROM ME is almost laughable.
You've made this same mistake time and time again here. It's more of the same: "Nothing to see here folks. Move along!". You're not getting paid to "Resist!" here right?
:-D
Are_we__sure ago
Revenge? No. So perhaps you have the word right and the psychology completely wrong. You don't affect me enough to care about revenge. You affect me for as long as your stupidity on my screen. Then you no longer exist.
There was. You have no evidence is ongoing AND that connection was part of why he was videoblogging. Your assertion is Evidence Free and thus can be ignored.
Let me ask you a question. Take this Gilmore guy out of the equation. Does it change anything at all about our understanding of the event which was witnessed by hundreds of people and photographed and videoed by many?
DarkMath ago
"Your assertion is Evidence Free and thus can be ignored."
This must be one of the times you skipped reading what I wrote because I addressed the very issue...........which makes your vindictive "stupidity on my screen" all the more ironic.
Anyway let's try again. Copy pasta:
You're attacking an observation which is an extreme no no in science. You never throw out evidence. There is a connection between Gilmore and the State Department. There's also a connection between Gilmore's T.V. interview and Smith-Mundt "Public Diplomacy BROADCASTING". Deal with it.
Then you place the burden of proof on me to show concrete evidence as if you think the State Department was handing out leaflets proclaiming the event a Smith-Mundt Special. Really? Concrete evidence like that would only come from a subpoena. In fact it's absurd you would dismiss my theory using that logic. And actually I think a subpoena is in the works: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2063189.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the process works. People like you and me, witnesses, bystanders, even police detectives make observations. We gather raw evidence. If there's enough evidence then a District Attorney would step in with a subpoena and do some real digging for the concrete evidence you're looking for. You demanding concrete evidence FROM ME is almost laughable.
You've made this same mistake time and time again here. It's more of the same: "Nothing to see here folks. Move along!". You're not getting paid to "Resist!" here right?
:-D
Are_we__sure ago
I'm not attacking your observation. I'm attacking your the giant leaping to conclusions about that observation. You don't understand that.
Also you don't even have the observation part correct.
Is this an active connection? Gilmore works for the State Department does not equal Gilmore worked for the State Department.
Even if we grant you this connection, it in no way leads to this.
Which is not an observation. It's something you pulled out of your ass with no evidence.
"Your assertion is Evidence Free and thus can be ignored."
DarkMath ago
"I'm attacking your giant leaping to conclusions"
That's like if we're two detectives working in DC and someone is killed by a sniper. We find out the license plate of a car seen leaving the area belongs to former Army sniper John Allen Muhammad.
I then say to you:
And you respond:
O_O
Are_we__sure ago
It is not like that.