Seth had been drowning his sorrows at Lou's City Bar until around 1:45am. Clearly inebriated, he was offered a ride home but refused, saying he was heading to Wonderland, another bar about 10 minutes walk away. No one at Wonderland could recall seeing Seth that morning but the bar shut up at 2:30. The crucial minutes leading up to his death just a block from his apartment are still unaccounted for
First of all we are just taking that person's word for it, that he said he was going to Wonderland, also his father said he had bad reception at his house and had to step outside when using his phone. Maybe Seth changed his mind about going to Wonderland and just decided to go home. He could have gotten home and either made a call to Kelsey or she called him and he had to step outside. Here is something that just occurred to me. If he was at home and she called him, did she set him up to go outside? Who knows, and I am not saying she did, just a possibility. If he went outside to take that call she knew he would and someone was waiting for him to come out. Just a thought. There are always so many ways this go. Also, those guys being there and being involved has been debunked. I don't have the source, but remember reading it. Just an idea.
Yes, but the phone call was said to have lasted an hour? I seem to recall reading the minutes somewhere. Since they did speak, there would be a definitive time they spoke. For once, it wouldn't be a guess. This is when he called ... this is when he hung up. Yeah, I'm pretty sure in some account I read that the call lasted for an hour? Hours? It filled in a good chunk of time. IF that's true, and I don't know that it is, how could he have attended a party? My own thought was that the notation of Internet party was actually Kim dot.com's internet party ... meaning, that he was making contact with Kim dotcom that night. And you're right about Lou's word for him saying he was going to Wonderland. But then again, if Seth didn't want to say where he was really going, he might have said that as a cover.
But the main question is: Why was he so drunk? Now the staff definitely said that he hadn't drunk anymore than usual. Why? Why? Why?
I have thought about the drinking so many times. It just does not make sense, unless he was extremely depressed about his love life with Kelsey. I remember reading that friends and people that knew him said that was very unlike him. He may have a few, but not to the point of being so drunk. It could be that he was given something at the bar, possibly slipped in by Capone or one of his men. I do not believe this story of the IT party at the home of Imran with a bunch of people. It makes no sense. For what? Did they grill him about what they thought he might have? Too many people to find out about it all. Yeah, and the phone calls, I don't know what to think anymore. We may never know. But look at what happened with the Awans. We never thought they would be arrested either. So maybe we can still have hope, at least.
Oh, I know that we'll find out the truth. What I'm saying is that the information we're given is sketchy. There's too much we don't know, but the people behind this know, and if someone were free to investigate, they'd know also. A look on Seth's computer would answer a lot of questions.
I totally agree. I also believe this was a pretty normal family until they got involved in the stealing of an election. Their son tried to do the right thing by exposing it, and now they are under a type of "gag order" by the criminals involved. As we know we could well be reading about Aaron's suicide, suddenly overcome and distraught even after a whole year. Hope that won't happen. They are doing their best to stay safe. I too think things will eventually come out. Just wondering how long we will have to wait.
I know ... the waiting ... it's enough already! But really, Trump just got in. Unfortunately, things take time. And I'm glad that if they are doing something, that it hasn't been leaked.
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quantokitty ago
This could be HUGE.
But seriously, Seth goes to Lou's and then leaves and goes to a party at .... what was it ... 1 or 2 AM? That's when he left the bar. Here:
Why did he say he was going to Wonderland? How could he be talking to his
skankgirlfriend all that time?carmencita ago
First of all we are just taking that person's word for it, that he said he was going to Wonderland, also his father said he had bad reception at his house and had to step outside when using his phone. Maybe Seth changed his mind about going to Wonderland and just decided to go home. He could have gotten home and either made a call to Kelsey or she called him and he had to step outside. Here is something that just occurred to me. If he was at home and she called him, did she set him up to go outside? Who knows, and I am not saying she did, just a possibility. If he went outside to take that call she knew he would and someone was waiting for him to come out. Just a thought. There are always so many ways this go. Also, those guys being there and being involved has been debunked. I don't have the source, but remember reading it. Just an idea.
quantokitty ago
Yes, but the phone call was said to have lasted an hour? I seem to recall reading the minutes somewhere. Since they did speak, there would be a definitive time they spoke. For once, it wouldn't be a guess. This is when he called ... this is when he hung up. Yeah, I'm pretty sure in some account I read that the call lasted for an hour? Hours? It filled in a good chunk of time. IF that's true, and I don't know that it is, how could he have attended a party? My own thought was that the notation of Internet party was actually Kim dot.com's internet party ... meaning, that he was making contact with Kim dotcom that night. And you're right about Lou's word for him saying he was going to Wonderland. But then again, if Seth didn't want to say where he was really going, he might have said that as a cover.
But the main question is: Why was he so drunk? Now the staff definitely said that he hadn't drunk anymore than usual. Why? Why? Why?
carmencita ago
I have thought about the drinking so many times. It just does not make sense, unless he was extremely depressed about his love life with Kelsey. I remember reading that friends and people that knew him said that was very unlike him. He may have a few, but not to the point of being so drunk. It could be that he was given something at the bar, possibly slipped in by Capone or one of his men. I do not believe this story of the IT party at the home of Imran with a bunch of people. It makes no sense. For what? Did they grill him about what they thought he might have? Too many people to find out about it all. Yeah, and the phone calls, I don't know what to think anymore. We may never know. But look at what happened with the Awans. We never thought they would be arrested either. So maybe we can still have hope, at least.
quantokitty ago
Oh, I know that we'll find out the truth. What I'm saying is that the information we're given is sketchy. There's too much we don't know, but the people behind this know, and if someone were free to investigate, they'd know also. A look on Seth's computer would answer a lot of questions.
carmencita ago
I totally agree. I also believe this was a pretty normal family until they got involved in the stealing of an election. Their son tried to do the right thing by exposing it, and now they are under a type of "gag order" by the criminals involved. As we know we could well be reading about Aaron's suicide, suddenly overcome and distraught even after a whole year. Hope that won't happen. They are doing their best to stay safe. I too think things will eventually come out. Just wondering how long we will have to wait.
quantokitty ago
I know ... the waiting ... it's enough already! But really, Trump just got in. Unfortunately, things take time. And I'm glad that if they are doing something, that it hasn't been leaked.