Truthplease5 ago

another thing I noticed while researching Frank Olson - connects with Lynch, Comey, Clinton etc!!

while researching Frank Olson - see MKULTRA, Project Artichoke, mysterious death

I came across a video/documentary about his son's reinvestigation into his fathers death [http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/9586/Code-Name-Artichoke]

Around 1975 (see: 1975 Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission) there were Senate Hearings/investigations/intelligence gathered on illegal actions by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) after certain activities had been revealed by the Watergate affair

the documentary mentioned above references a 11July1975 WH MEMO subject/entitled: The Olson MATTER/ CIA Suicide and notes "... There (is...) the possibility that it might be necessary to disclose highly classified national security information in connection with any court suit or legislative hearings...."

THIS IS HIGHLY REMINISCENT OF THE CLINTON MATTER!

downgrading terminology - INVESTIGATION to MATTER

when an investigation is concerning things such as death of contractors/public figures, government testing/activities, possibly illegal actions, highly publicized etc - the tightening of the belt in terminology is implemented to sweep the MATTER under the rug instead of having an INVESTIGATION seen to fruition and have the results be seen and felt publicly

note: this is new to me bc I was not alive during those times so yes this is news to me hence the surprise

10068443? ago

FYI➡This info. was posted to politics sub.

It had 107 upvotes and 15 comments just now.

turitelle ago

Dumb. These guys are amateurs compared to our politicians who just got voted out... they only sent written memos via post it notes, and triple deleted all their emails.

2impendingdoom ago

[email protected] = Barack Obama (I think that he also went by Barry) There was that email that Huma wanted to keep a copy, he had an alias

Loretta Lynch = Elizabeth (Lizzie) Carlisle

Lew Alcindor = Eric Holder

Diane Reynolds = Chelsea Clinton

Kurt Eichenwald = Andrew McDonald

Lisa Jackson = Richard Windsor

Duval Patrick = Sally Reynolds

RedGreenAlliance ago

Please have a look at this post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2041343

I've copied the content here for visibility:


Significance to Pizzagate as explained in this linked post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2041059

ELIZABETH CARLILE = LIZZIE CARLISLE - Loretta's maternal grandmother's birth name (twice married; later Lizzie Bell then finally Lizzie Harris)

LORETTA LYNCH born 1959, Greensboro NC - was using a fake name to conduct illicit business while Attorney General. MULTIPLE crimes here even before you look at what she was DOING. Just using state apparatus with fake names and illegal accounts is imprisonable, and certainly she should be disbarred.


Parents


  • Mother - Lorine Lynch (maiden name Harris)
  • Father - Rev Lorenzo Lynch (Lorenza but he called himself Lorenzo)

Here's proof of Loretta's parents name: http://imgur.com/a/sV6YO

Here's marriage cert for Lorenzo and Lorine Lynch: http://imgur.com/a/MAEGA


Maternal Grandparents

  • MGM - Lizzie Harris (first married name = Bell (Beel), maiden name = Carlisle (alt spellings Carliss / Carlile)
  • MGF - Loveless Harris (alt spellings Lovelace / Loveliss)

Much sleuthing by myself and Redditer https://www.reddit.com/user/queenicarius have discovered the links. Confusion lies in Ancestry.com's common misinterpretation of name spellings from handwritten certificates and registers.

Its BELL and CARLISLE - definitely!

Turns out Loretta's maternal grandmother was definitely Lizzie Carlisle as evidenced by her death certificate in 1958 (year before Loretta was born). Lizzie Carlisle married Walter Bell, who died leaving her with 5 children. She remarried Loveless Harris.

Death Cert - Lizzie Harris: http://imgur.com/a/ox2Vu

Now get this - maternal grandparents marriage certificate state her maiden name as LIZZIE CARLISS BEEL (according to ancestry.com) - but this is taken from a hard copy marriage cert which looks to me like LIZZIE CARLILE BELL.

Marriage Cert - Lizzie Harris: http://imgur.com/a/GENDe

In fact CARLILE is an alternative spelling of the same root surname, others are CARLYLE, CARLISLE. Carlisle is the most common spelling of the name.

CARLISS is not common at all - not even in the top 150,000 most common US surnames. Carlile however is in the top 7,000 (source http://www.pbs.org/pov/apps/thesweetestsound/popularity-index/popindex.php?name=carlile&Submit=Submit)).

On Ancestry.com there are 5,000 records under the surname Carliss for the USA. There are 140,766 under the surname Carlile. That's 28x more

Look at the marriage cert again. It looks like Carlile or even Carlisle to me but to another person it could look like Carliss. But consider the fact Carlile is a more common surname by an order of magnitude - maybe 1 Carliss for every 28 Carlile's. So on the balance of probability the name is Carlile.

However all this is irrelevant now we've located the Death Cert of Lizzie Harris which CLEARLY shows the birth name as CARLISLE.


So What?!


The chances of this being a coincidence are astronomical. Basically, Loretta thought she was being oh-so-clever by doing business under a fake name to hide her connection. Why would anyone do this if its not something that is illegal or would damage her reputation or career in some way.

So the silly bitch uses her maternal grandmother's name - LIZZIE CARLISLE.

Even proving her abusing Government email systems with fake accounts, and conducting business without accountability and audit trails, is imprisonable. That's before you consider what she was actually up to.

We need to weaponise this and spread the word

Jem777 ago

I believe Peter Kadzik was just reassigned the opening of the new Clinton email investigatiin. Sickening. This is the guy all over HRC emails and Podesta's who thanks him for "keeping me out of jail"

Next he leaked the HRC investigation to her the entire time.

2impendingdoom ago

Thats been brought up but I haven't been able to find any confirmation of that appointment from any outside sources.

DonKeyhote ago

I wonder if the confirmed fact that all black social movements have been BULLSHIT JEWISH SABOTAGE is relevant to you faggots.

Hillarys first job with Childrens Defense Fund founded by MLK associate who married a Jew, cuz of course black women marry Jews all the time, unable to resist their masculinity LMAO. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Wright_Edelman

So CDF is a (((deep state))) slush fund and on the board of directors we find (((Deborah Cogut))) wife of the founder of Pegasus Capital Advisors.

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE KIKES BEHIND THE CURTAIN! JEWS CARE ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE AND THATS WHY THEY ARE ETHNICALLY CLEANSING EUROPEANS AS WE SPEAK.

Fuck all you faggot morons, every last one. You are beneath contempt.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

You are the worst kind of shill... I'm sick of pretending like you add anything to this at all.

You thread hack with pure hatred and random information barely connected to the subject matter.

So... Without any further delay. I am officially pronouncing that you are either a shill put in place to inject anti Semitic views to erode our validity in the future (preemptive shilling) ... Or a completely obsessed lunatic, because EVERY single point you make focuses on this one aspect.

Your choice. Lunatic or shill?

DonKeyhote ago

For real, this is how dumb you are:

i say my theory is that organized jews are behind PG and you say thats an invalid theory because claiming jews are conspiring is antisemitic, and antisemitic theories are invalid by definition.

I cant even find the words to describe how stupid and illogical you think. Im not even embarrassed for you anymore.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

I also can't find the words to describe how stupid you are.

Let's agree not to look for any words, for each other, ever.

Deal?

DonKeyhote ago

LOL. More proof women have zero place here. Thats adorable how you invent your own terminology like "preemptive shilling."

You cant dispute my facts because youre STUPID. LIMITED BRAIN CAPACITY. YOU BELIEVE ALL GERMANS WERE EVIL AND 1.5 MILLION GERMAN WOMEN DESERVED RAPE BY OCCUPYING SOVIETS. GTFO OFF THE FORUM CUNT.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

A.) You tend to label anyone who disagrees with you as a "woman"... as if that is some kind of insult. I am not a woman, nor would it matter if I was. B.) I think the underlying issue is that you are not aware of the forum you are actually participating in. You seem to think this is a conspiracy forum on the Jewish elite rulers. As this is the only thing you bring up, regardless of the topic. C.) Your silly name-calling and caps-lock issues are obviously deeply rooted in a sad and pathetic existence away from your keyboard.

For the record, yes, I firmly believe you are a "preemptive shill" that is planted here in case shit hits the fan. People like you will pave the way for the mainstream media to cite ridiculous examples of hate/racism/profanity and now sexism! It's like you are checking all of the hot button boxes off within each of your posts.

You really should start using more diverse racial slurs, perhaps you could also start making fun of transgender people? That seems to get a lot of press these days from your employers.

KILLtheRATS ago

Upvote

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Ok, so... apparently this thread "broke" voat. I'm seeing new comments come in with a default (-1) downvoat from comments submitted by others, and when I attempt to upvoat I see a "+/-" sign, then refreshing shows a big fat "0" next to their name, but my +1 "Blue Arrow" is still lit.

I'm sure it's an unrelated bug and I'm being paranoid...

But I'm still going to lock up/load up to be sure.

Haha.

Judgejewdy ago

No, that means it's being suppressed like all good posts are and have been since the beginning of pg. "making improvements" has been the excuse since November.

darkknight111 ago

The cover up of crimes by the elite is something that can be used as an argument for direct relevance to pizzagate.

Regardless, this thread is important on the grounds of being a jumping point for finding further leads.

Everyone, get in here!

2impendingdoom ago

makes sense, they all had fake names, Chelsea Clinton was Debbie Reynolds, and wasn't Mills (not sure) Lisa Jackson?

carmencita ago

No, Lisa Jackson was head of the EPA under Obama. She also had an alias but I forget what it is. I have discovered in the emails that she is traveling around the country evidently pushing and spreading their big program COPS Community Oriented Policing Services. Now some may not believe the @Wisconsin-_Is_Corrupt reporting about Racine, but one thing he says the are pushing is Community Policing. So there is something to their Plan. What the Policing Program is to accomplish, I am sure will not be good for Communities. In the email she states she has visited many states, but Phoenix seems to be Excelling in this Program and that there will be a Special Mental Health Aspect as to how Police are taught to respond. WHAT? I am getting terrified of what this may imply and what it may entail for us and those with Mental Health problems. Is this another way for Police to take these people into their custody? What will happen to them. Sorry, this really set me off and now I am in fear of this COPS Program.

SecondAmendment ago

@2ImpendingDoom, good reminder, mate. You just reminded me that Obama's BFF, the former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, used a fake name while in office. Why is that significant? Because Governor Patrick's real name is currently being tossed around for the 2020 Presidential race. Governor Patrick was known as SALLY REYNOLDS, which is very weird. He used an email address of [email protected] to circumvent the open records laws (or whatever they're called) so that a search of Deval Patrick emails would OMIT all emails created by Sally Reynolds.

WTF, right? Governor Patrick admitted this while testifying in open court back in 2011 but the mainstream media didn't look into it much, other than in a few stories like the following: http://archive.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/05/28/governor_patrick_keeps_his_cool_during_a_strange_historic_day_on_stand/

Perhaps on a side note the awesome 4channers might want to look into this. When I think of "Massachusetts" I think of "Martha's Vineyard" and then, invariably, I think of that abandoned handkerchief and the "pizza-related map."

Was the governor involved in any of this? I do not know. But I do know that a Governor with nothing to hide would not create a new identity to conceal his activities. . . .

carmencita ago

I wonder if there are emails from Sally (Duval) to Barry (Barack) Would be very interesting, imo.

SecondAmendment ago

Yup, @carmencita, we think alike. If you Google the name "DEVAL PATRICK" you'll see that he's been in the news lately. Susan Rice and other Obama co-conspirators are encouraging DEVAL PATRICK -- AKA SALLY REYNOLDS -- to challenge President Trump.

However, I found one commentator, who appears on Fox sometimes, who said it may be unlikely that Patrick will run. This tells me that Patrick may have things to hide, things that a run for the presidency would expose. Hang on and I will look for links....

Here is the Fox contributor story. Guy is named Howie Carr of Boston media and he is a Trump supporter who knows a lot of dirt about various Democrats: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2017/08/carr_obama_circle_urges_deval_patrick_for_oval_office

2impendingdoom ago

Thanks, thats an fantastic contribution, I added a quick list to the post (because I have a terrible memory) but I agree, the channers need to get this.

SecondAmendment ago

Thank you, @2impendingdoom.

2impendingdoom ago

SSHD has dug up a bunch of links, I'm kind of just consolidating into one comment.

SecondAmendment ago

Very good. I wish I knew more. Geez, I don't even know how to navigate the 4chan and 8chan pol forums. Too confusing for me, unfortunately. But the SALLY REYNOLDS thing always struck me as odd, especially after I learned that Chelsea Clinton was DEBBIE REYNOLDS. It made me think that the Massachusetts Governor could be closely connected to the Clinton Crime Family in all of this.

After the news of Governor Patrick and the 2020 Presidential race broke this week, I got thinking how terrible that would be. Any name the Democrats put up would have to be involved on some level.... they are going to want only people who will continue the concealment, obfuscation, and protection of what is really going on behind the scenes....

2impendingdoom ago

@carmencita

2A- I'll search my comment history, I know I talked so someone who visited the chans often and ask them to drop this there.

kestrel9 ago

I've noticed a trend during PG research or especially research into orgs like BAMN, Antifa members..etc. Where you search the name and it's also the name of a lesser heard of but famous person (so finding results is harder to wade through), whether it's the name of an actor or a famous communist (that was part of the guccifer 2.0 story I believe). I had started a post on it once right after I started noticing, 3 or 4 names, but I lost the post and forgot about it. Since then I still have it happen, probably at least 6 or 7 names altogether which seems like more than just coincidence. Unfortunately I didn't save them in a list to keep track.

I know that commie Yvette Felarca of BAMN took young teens over state lines to separate them from their families and gave them aliases. I wonder if that's a tactic used by SOROS groups for protesters who give media interviews (reading names of people interviewed at some of these violent protests is where I started noticing it). Given how Obama and Deep State love their crisis actors, it's not surprising if politicians adopt celebrity alias's

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Don't forget Mr. Obama's alias: https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-podesta-dump-obama-secret-email-address/

Here's Chelsea: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wikileaks-67-emails-hillary-chelsea-clinton-fake-name-diane-reynolds-foreign-police-mtgs/

Kurt Eichenwald = Andrew McDonald (CP link directly, but alias was not used for government purposes): http://gizmodo.com/wikileaks-pettiness-reveals-what-might-be-the-secret-am-1797215657

Dammit... I can't remember the others. There was at least 2 or 3 other examples of aliases used by members of the previous administration!

Ahhh, right, Mr. Holder: https://kaiserartechinvestigation.wordpress.com/2016/02/26/how-eric-holder-hid-his-dirty-cover-up-deeds-for-obama-and-protected-elon-musk-from-arrest/

Lisa Jackson of the EPA: "Another federal agency that has come under scrutiny for its email practices is the Environmental Protection Agency, where it was revealed in 2012 that then-Administrator Lisa Jackson was using the alias "Richard Windsor" in emails with government officials." http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/03/03/390429337/hillary-clinton-s-use-of-personal-email-account-at-state-draws-scrutiny

I'm certain there are more...

2impendingdoom ago

thanks for finding the links!!

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Duuuude... WTF just happened. I saw your post pop up in my notifications, and it immediately had 3 downvoats against it. Now? None.

UglyTruth ago

Could be a software glitch, voat has been undergoing work to make it open source friendly.

Truthplease5 ago

what is a link to the Judicial Watch emails compared to the WikiLeak emails? also FOIA - any others?

SoSpricyHotDog ago

The link right now is a hypothetical one... essentially, if this alias was used specifically to obtain/approve talking points re: the meeting w/ Clinton on the tarmac, that immediately indicates she is attempting to hide her identity on the off chance that these emails were ever leaked.

Low and behold, that off chance occurred.

Since JW is pursuing a non-redacted version of these "talking points", it may shed light on a deeper investigation to dive into what she discussed with WJC. If that happens to involve Comey and the depressing result of the HRC email "investigation", we've got a watertight case of obstruction.

Kadzik is significant because he's now linked to Lynch's possible alias within the JW emails and he has already been outed as a person of interest who leaked warnings to HRC re: her own email scandal in advance. Leading to the all hands on deck "oh shit let's delete everything" moment. Which involves Podesta running defense.

So, not directly Pedogate related. But, indirectly this could result in some more skeletons falling out of their collective closet. Leading to more... leads.

Jem777 ago

Kadzik ok just got assigned to HRC new email case that was opened......no corruption there right?