His comment might be wrong, but his removal was, at the very least, 100% legitimate.
Rule 3
Clarity: All titles must adequately describe post content and must establish direct relevance to pizzagate.
The title
John Podesta used the word Domino in an email found in the Wilileaks email dump. This is the definition of the word Domino.
What follows is a very cluttered and nearly unreadable 2 monitor's height-worth of definitions, pronunciations, and spellings. Yes, the title adequately described the post content, but... is any word used by Podesta now pizzagate material as long as he said it?
Rule 2
And where's the link to him actually saying it? I see no wikileaks links.
Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link.
More Rule 3, and why it's 100% legitimate to remove:
EACH link in your post must include a description of content and how the link relates to the post
Well it just makes it hard on this virtually one-man mod team when I have to spend 10 minutes to get the upshot of a post, hence why I jumped the gun on this one.
Vindicator generally only does late-night duty. sensitive busy lately. hasn't done much for a while. J's should probably be removed (haven't done jack for a couple months). Except for 1stLantern, who was recently added. so yeah, it's basically been just me, which has been the basic situation for moooonths.
We did have a sticky up recently for mod recruitment. That's where 1stLantern came from. We will be vetting some others, but yeah, it's hard to find people.
You are right about the lack of actual investigation happening. For the most part, the only interesting developments are a few arrests of state-level gov. officials, which may or may not be related to federal investigation.
Yes, I think the whiners are a small minority. I suspect at least 90% are shill accounts, the rest being useful idiots manipulated by the shills. I'm certain at least some of the shills have multiple accounts to sockpuppet and act like there is a groundswell against me (they target me because I'm basically the only one stopping them).
Part of it is that I don't have the time to spare baby-sitting users. If the post breaks a rule, I just delete it. If they PM or ping me, I answer and explain, but I've never got into the habit of checking subverse mail. I worry that the shills may use complaints as a strategy to wear me down (i.e. stress me out and waste my time), so I avoid getting sucked in.
IDK, how many posts of mine you have deleted. You have been clear and obviously are just driving for quality posts, How many times a day do you get accused for working for someone here? I use to always be accused for working for Stratfor or the CIA. I am just a guy trying to help out, just like you. Don't give up!
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Crensch ago
His comment might be wrong, but his removal was, at the very least, 100% legitimate.
Rule 3
The title
What follows is a very cluttered and nearly unreadable 2 monitor's height-worth of definitions, pronunciations, and spellings. Yes, the title adequately described the post content, but... is any word used by Podesta now pizzagate material as long as he said it?
Rule 2
And where's the link to him actually saying it? I see no wikileaks links.
More Rule 3, and why it's 100% legitimate to remove:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/9ca14e7ea6/35514.png
Crensch ago
@Millennial_Falcon Not a grey area at all.
Millennial_Falcon ago
Well it just makes it hard on this virtually one-man mod team when I have to spend 10 minutes to get the upshot of a post, hence why I jumped the gun on this one.
Crensch ago
Kinda figured. I'm not really out to put more burden on you - just trying to keep the plates spinning.
Are the other mods not doing anything?
Millennial_Falcon ago
Vindicator generally only does late-night duty. sensitive busy lately. hasn't done much for a while. J's should probably be removed (haven't done jack for a couple months). Except for 1stLantern, who was recently added. so yeah, it's basically been just me, which has been the basic situation for moooonths.
Crensch ago
I've been pondering a sticky about either switching to submitter permission mode or getting more mods to volunteer.
I really don't even know if there's much here that's actually being legitimately investigated anymore.
Are the whiners just a loud minority of what happens here?
Millennial_Falcon ago
We did have a sticky up recently for mod recruitment. That's where 1stLantern came from. We will be vetting some others, but yeah, it's hard to find people.
You are right about the lack of actual investigation happening. For the most part, the only interesting developments are a few arrests of state-level gov. officials, which may or may not be related to federal investigation.
Yes, I think the whiners are a small minority. I suspect at least 90% are shill accounts, the rest being useful idiots manipulated by the shills. I'm certain at least some of the shills have multiple accounts to sockpuppet and act like there is a groundswell against me (they target me because I'm basically the only one stopping them).
Part of it is that I don't have the time to spare baby-sitting users. If the post breaks a rule, I just delete it. If they PM or ping me, I answer and explain, but I've never got into the habit of checking subverse mail. I worry that the shills may use complaints as a strategy to wear me down (i.e. stress me out and waste my time), so I avoid getting sucked in.
jangles ago
You are devoting lots of time and work here. thanks.
Millennial_Falcon ago
thanks for the appreciation :D
jangles ago
IDK, how many posts of mine you have deleted. You have been clear and obviously are just driving for quality posts, How many times a day do you get accused for working for someone here? I use to always be accused for working for Stratfor or the CIA. I am just a guy trying to help out, just like you. Don't give up!
Crensch ago
@kevdude this is what I was thinking was going on, more or less.
The place is mostly no longer what it was meant to be, and where to go from here, I think is a good discussion to have.
Do we abandon ship and let the shills paid to destroy this place win? Is there anything here to protect?
Do we close this place down?
Go to submitter-only, with very few allowed to submit?
I see maybe one development each week in my most-viewed from here, and I wager it'd gain just as much traction in /v/news.
Maybe keep this place and slowly phase out doing anything, so the shills stay contained here as long as they don't know?