If all you remember off the dossier is pissgate, you haven't read the dossier. The piss "Kompromat" as the Russians call it is one part. There are multiple other parts.
One part that is said to be validated is a Russian diplomat named Kalugin was actually a spy. Russia snatched him home quickly. The US had surveillance on him before he left.
Yet, Buzzfeed felt it worthy for publication, and so did CNN.
CNN did a story without mentioning any claims. BuzzFeed published the dossier. Many media outlets had the dossier, but mentioned it was unverified as did BuzzFeed right up front
A dossier, compiled by a person who has claimed to be a former British intelligence official, alleges Russia has compromising information on Trump. The allegations are unverified, and the report contains errors.
Some of the errors were spelling errors. Alfa bank was referred to as Alpha. The spy's name was misspelled.
The point I'm trying to get at is that 'Pissgate' was likely fabricated and illegally pushed to these two outlets by Team Hillary.
Illegally? What would be illegal? And we know how the dossier got commissioned. It was from a Republican opponent of Trump who hired a group to do opposition reaserch, they subcontracted to Orbis intelligence which is headed by an exMI6 agent Christopher Steele. He went to his Russian sources and put the reports together.
After the Republican primary a Democratic group paid for his work, but not the Hillary campaign. Steele kept working without pay after the election. Steele also sent the dossier to British and US intelligence in 2016. He then tried to get jounalists interested in the story
the fake dossier aimed at Trump right after he took office, was instantly debunked by Trump's administration?
How was it instantly debunked by the Trump Administration? I'm genuined curious as to what you are referring to. Also it was published before Trump took office during the Obama Administration.
guessing diplomats as spies is like shooting fish in a barrel. Chances are when you make the claim you'll get some.
"News outlets" publishing the equivalent of tabloid drivel is the real news here. Unverified claims are not stories. journalism 101. This should red pill anyone that cares and the story being so stupid proves how flippant the whole thing is. This is them broadcasting to the world that their standard of journalism is literally 0. Based on their criteria they could literally publish anything as "unverified news."
At some point ...if you keep believing them... that is on you. Just don't say no one tried to warn you.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were to release the "unverified dossier on pence's time travel collusion conspiracy" next. If you want to write the news make 4chan jokes. If you want to read the news have standards.
guessing diplomats as spies is like shooting fish in a barrel. Chances are when you make the claim you'll get some.
This is not what he did. He described a specific individual and the US government using other sources was able to corroborate this information as correct. For one thing, the US diplomats had not heard of this guy.
"News outlets" publishing the equivalent of tabloid drivel is the real news here. Unverified claims are not stories. journalism 101.
CNN's story is solid and is based on the fact that the US intel agencies found this document substantial enough to brief to the President.
Classified documents presented last week to President Obama and President-elect Trump included allegations that Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump, multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.
The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. The allegations came, in part, from memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative, whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible. The FBI is investigating the credibility and accuracy of these allegations, which are based primarily on information from Russian sources, but has not confirmed many essential details in the memos about Mr. Trump.
The classified briefings last week were presented by four of the senior-most US intelligence chiefs -- Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, FBI Director James Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers.
One reason the nation's intelligence chiefs took the extraordinary step of including the synopsis in the briefing documents was to make the President-elect aware that such allegations involving him are circulating among intelligence agencies, senior members of Congress and other government officials in Washington, multiple sources tell CNN.
These senior intelligence officials also included the synopsis to demonstrate that Russia had compiled information potentially harmful to both political parties, but only released information damaging to Hillary Clinton and Democrats. This synopsis was not an official part of the report from the intelligence community case about Russian hacks, but some officials said it augmented the evidence that Moscow intended to harm Clinton's candidacy and help Trump's, several officials with knowledge of the briefings tell CNN.
>The two-page synopsis also included allegations that there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government, according to two national security officials.
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At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations. But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos.
Russia denies having "Kompromat" on Donald Tump
Some of the memos were circulating as far back as last summer. What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago.
Notice that main point of the document was not Kompromat, but that Russian had mounted an influence campaign against Donald Trump and there was "a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government."
We know that Kushner took several meetings with the Russians and even asked to communicate with them using Russia's own communication gear. Flynn is no longer NSA because he lied about his meetings with the Russian ambassador. After about a week of lies Donald Trump Jr has now admitted to meeting with intermediaries of the Russian government. We know that the Russian ambassador told his superiors he discussed policy with Jeff Sessions. We know that Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation and we know that Trump wants Sessions to quit because of the Russian investigation.
The dossier is about so much more than a night in a hotel room in Moscow. And more and more evidence is propping up the general story it was telling.
I read the entire dossier..did you? Have you read other dossiers? It's clearly a fabrication to the point that its' laughable. ...My 4th grader could make up a more passable dossier during recess.
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RweSure ago
If all you remember off the dossier is pissgate, you haven't read the dossier. The piss "Kompromat" as the Russians call it is one part. There are multiple other parts.
One part that is said to be validated is a Russian diplomat named Kalugin was actually a spy. Russia snatched him home quickly. The US had surveillance on him before he left.
CNN did a story without mentioning any claims. BuzzFeed published the dossier. Many media outlets had the dossier, but mentioned it was unverified as did BuzzFeed right up front
Some of the errors were spelling errors. Alfa bank was referred to as Alpha. The spy's name was misspelled.
Illegally? What would be illegal? And we know how the dossier got commissioned. It was from a Republican opponent of Trump who hired a group to do opposition reaserch, they subcontracted to Orbis intelligence which is headed by an exMI6 agent Christopher Steele. He went to his Russian sources and put the reports together.
After the Republican primary a Democratic group paid for his work, but not the Hillary campaign. Steele kept working without pay after the election. Steele also sent the dossier to British and US intelligence in 2016. He then tried to get jounalists interested in the story
How was it instantly debunked by the Trump Administration? I'm genuined curious as to what you are referring to. Also it was published before Trump took office during the Obama Administration.
notdivided ago
guessing diplomats as spies is like shooting fish in a barrel. Chances are when you make the claim you'll get some.
"News outlets" publishing the equivalent of tabloid drivel is the real news here. Unverified claims are not stories. journalism 101. This should red pill anyone that cares and the story being so stupid proves how flippant the whole thing is. This is them broadcasting to the world that their standard of journalism is literally 0. Based on their criteria they could literally publish anything as "unverified news."
At some point ...if you keep believing them... that is on you. Just don't say no one tried to warn you.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were to release the "unverified dossier on pence's time travel collusion conspiracy" next. If you want to write the news make 4chan jokes. If you want to read the news have standards.
RweSure ago
This is not what he did. He described a specific individual and the US government using other sources was able to corroborate this information as correct. For one thing, the US diplomats had not heard of this guy.
CNN's story is solid and is based on the fact that the US intel agencies found this document substantial enough to brief to the President.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html
Notice that main point of the document was not Kompromat, but that Russian had mounted an influence campaign against Donald Trump and there was "a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government."
We know that Kushner took several meetings with the Russians and even asked to communicate with them using Russia's own communication gear. Flynn is no longer NSA because he lied about his meetings with the Russian ambassador. After about a week of lies Donald Trump Jr has now admitted to meeting with intermediaries of the Russian government. We know that the Russian ambassador told his superiors he discussed policy with Jeff Sessions. We know that Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation and we know that Trump wants Sessions to quit because of the Russian investigation.
The dossier is about so much more than a night in a hotel room in Moscow. And more and more evidence is propping up the general story it was telling.
notdivided ago
I read the entire dossier..did you? Have you read other dossiers? It's clearly a fabrication to the point that its' laughable. ...My 4th grader could make up a more passable dossier during recess.
RweSure ago
Your fourth grader could accurately gather intel on a Soviet diplomat who was actually a spy?
Your fourth grader could nail dates/times/participants of conversations of high Russian officials that would be collaborated by US intel intercepts.
Mazel Tov, that's quite a kid.