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redditsuckz ago

To find out those behind pizzagate look no further than those who furiously wanted to remove the page from Wikipedia altogether...ill give you one example;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:Pizzagate_(conspiracy_theory)

Delete- Creating a mainspace page to give space to an entirely unfounded, false, viciously defamatory and wholly fabricated series of claims about living people is a really, really bad precedent that we should not set here.NorthBySouthBaranof 17:08, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Reluctantly and appallingly, I think I need to withdraw my vote - after what happened with the gunman, this is almost certainly long-term encyclopedic and we need to be a source which clearly rejects and debunks this lunacy.NorthBySouthBaranof17:10, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

I see your point, Drmies. To me the biggest issue pushing toward straight-up "Delete" is the fact that any standalone article will instantly become a permanent honeypot for conspiracy theorists, and that there will be endless, sometimes-civil, off-wiki-organized pressure to expand the article, to add "balance," to add the endless purported details, etc., and experienced editors will have to endlessly stand firm against that pressure. The claims about living people are about as defamatory as they get and thus the article will require permanent, frequent monitoring to prevent misuse and abuse. It's not even in articlespace yet and there's had to be multiple rev-delete actions taken. We've seen this play before and we know how it ends. The encyclopedia doesn't need another one. NorthBySouthBaranof 18:28, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

And here is a perfect demonstration of the problem; we already have users removing descriptions of the defamatory claims as false and debunked on the spurious grounds that it is "editorializing" to clearly reflect the mainstream view of false, defamatory claims about living people. This is the road we're going down again. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 00:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

NorthBySouthBaranof AKA Travis_Mason-Bushman

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Travis_Mason-Bushman

http://i.imgur.com/kHyAeCe.png

Well he is gay and dare I say he looks a bit (((Chinese))).

Edit;

That is the longest nose bone I have ever seen in my life...try to imagine what that would look like on a human skull....

http://i.imgur.com/PH2qYSk.jpg

FuriousYT ago

And here is another Wiki editor named "DreamGuy" complaining that the other editors are trying too hard to unfavorably frame the profile of "Ralph Underwager":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ralph_Underwager

So who is Ralph Underwager? He was a psychologist (now deceased) who ran the Institute for Psychological Therapies: http://www.ipt-forensics.com/staff/index.htm

This is one his more memorable quotes:

"Paedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose ... I am also a theologian and as a theologian, I believe it is God's will that there be closeness and intimacy, unity of flesh, between people ... paedophiles can make the assertion that the pursuit of intimacy and love is what they choose. With boldness, they can say, 'I believe this is in fact part of God's will.'"

He was used as an "expert witness" in various sex abuse cases in order to debunk the testimonies of the children. Among these tasks he also published a "study" that refuted the evidence of the tunnels in the McMartin Preschool sex abuse scandal:

http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume7/j7_2_1_32.htm

He was the founder of VOCAL and also a member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, both of which are highly suspect as propaganda outlets disguised as serious research forums whose purpose is to defend pedophiles and discredit victims.

So Wiki DreamGuy is defending the defenders of pedophiles. Pathetic.

DonKeyhote ago

Brah make a thread