Was reading through this email and something wasn't adding up.Here is a copy of the email. Highlighted area is what i wanted to point out.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/43058
FW: Martha's Vineyard
From:[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Date: 2014-08-11 17:10
Subject: FW: Martha's Vineyard
I have not told him that you and Mary were coming.
From: Hansjoerg Wyss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:48 AM
To: Sandler, Herbert
Subject: RE: Martha's Vineyard
Dear Mr. Sandler:
I did just speak to Mr. Wyss and let him know your arrival and departure dates on Martha's Vineyard. He will arrive back on the Vineyard on August 16 and will depart on August 24 but will be back on the Vineyard at the end of August and would love to get together with you at some point during your visit. His home number on the Vineyard is 508-693-7895.
Best regards,
Debbie
PS: Thought I would send some photo updates on the granddaughters - I now have 4 granddaughters -looks like there will be no grandsons - oldest two are just turning 5 and were in a ballet recital together and the other two are 18 months and youngest just turned 1. Hope you grandchildren are doing well.
From: Sandler, Herbert [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 3:03 PM
To: Hansjoerg Wyss
Subject: Martha's Vineyard
I will be at Martha's Vineyard, arriving August 23, departing September 2. My daughter, Susan, her husband Steve and a family friend will be with me. Will you be at the Vineyard at any time during that period, and, if so, would you like to get together?
So....
This is the section i wanted to discuss.
PS: Thought I would send some photo updates on the granddaughters - I now have 4 granddaughters -looks like there will be no grandsons - oldest two are just turning 5 and were in a ballet recital together and the other two are 18 months and youngest just turned 1. Hope you grandchildren are doing well.
1/ Who says they have 4 granddaughters when they actually have 5!!!! It may be a legitimate mistake but could it be because they are not her grandchildren. Easy to forget when they are not yours.
2/ The oldest two are just turning 5 - THIS MAKES THEM TWINS!!! If they were actually related she would have said the twins are turning 5. I am guessing these are two unrelated little girls who happen to be 5 years old and NOT her granddaughters either.
3/ The other two are 18 months - ANOTHER SET OF TWINS!!
4/ The youngest just turned 1. Doesn't name them. Is that because she doesn't know their names!!?? Oh and she said she had 4 granddaughters yet mentions "5". Does she not know how to count or is it possible they are not her granddaughters AT ALL!!!
5/ Looks like there will be no grandsons - in other words there will be NO BOYS on the menu tonight. Just girls hope that's okay!!
No word about being a grandmother to two sets of twins and a one year old. Just their AGES!!!!! and NO NAMES.
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RweSure ago
You've misread this.
I think you have misread this as well.
3 and 4 are oddly written, but I believe you have misread this as well.
Here's how I read this
The four granddaughters are (5 and 5) + (18 months and 1 year) = 4.
5 and 5 does not equal twins. It doesn't even equal siblings. This easily could be the daughter of her son and the daughter of her daughter. You don't know how many children the grandmother has. The granddaughters could be four separate one child families.
You are misreading the email and the speculating on top of it.
Mammy ago
I will address your points in quotes first and respond in BOLD.
The woman clearly states she has four grandchildren and that they are all girls: > Thought I would send some photo updates on the granddaughters - I now have 4 granddaughters>
Upon a second read of the original lines, I think you may be right about her wording being awkward and your interpretation make sense of the mathematical confusion. However, this email still draws suspicion and is worthy of further investigation, imho.
RweSure ago
What draws suspicion?
Mammy ago
IMO, The mere fact that John Podesta is included in an email correspondence where children are mentioned is reason enough for suspicion. For further thoughts, see my original reply to whatgives in this thread.
RweSure ago
Yeah.
So you have free standing suspicion that has nothing to do with this email and that in turn affects how you read this email.
This is basically original pizzagate sin. I don't like these people, so they must be speaking in code.
Mammy ago
Maybe so, but at least I have the decency to admit where and when I have perhaps been wrong.
Are_we_sure ago
That's an admirable quality to have.
I think most folks in here are simply unaware of the cognitive biases that people have and how easy it is to fall for something that doesn't hold up logically. Basically we are far, far less rational than we think we are and our brains have certain things that make us believe.....not what is objectively true, but what we are telling ourselves.
Two things are brains love is making connections and finding patterns and making up stories/being told stories.
If I give you three random pieces of information, you can easily connect them into a story that feels "right." Even if they have nothing to do with each other.
Look at this. What is this a picture of? Look how fast your brain made connections and filled out the rest of the image.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/98/30/59/9830597bbd6c66354efd3306b6326579--connect-the-dots-exercise.jpg
This one is interesting. https://gdt.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/lavabo.jpg
Mammy ago
Yea, "sometimes a banana is just a banana." But wait, who said that quote? Sigmund Freud, I believe. Ahem. ; )