i call bullshit on hanging with an exercise band- its stretchy for one thing- and none of these accounts mention that he was actually hanging when found.... am i missing that somewhere?? if you are choking yourself, let's just say- for sexual purposes, with a band while sitting, when you go out the band should loosen.... what man could hang in a motel bathroom and not touch the floor?? with a stretchy band??? this sounds super fishy to me- and why the hell didn't the security guard take it off when trying to revive him?? with that short of a time frame as stated, he should not have appeared obviously dead.
Ive seen and attended hangings with exercise elastic and many, many more where people have hanged from a low point (i.e. A door handle) by simply buckling at the knees. It is not difficult to hang oneself if the want is there.
This is not possible. First responder here been to many scenes. For you to make those statements are not true. Anyone that has been to a successful suicide by hanging will never forget and also the many unsuccessful.
First responder here too and no untruths uttered by me. I've seen many 'successful' hangings by various means. My services were not required at the 'unsuccessful'. This is the second time you've questioned my provenance. I don't understand why. It may be possible we did similar work at separate ends of the pond, and I would never choose to attack in this way. (I have forgotten none of them, btw. Not possible).
Not attacking you in anyway. Your end of the pond must be way more creative. It is impossible for the human body to hang to death in almost all circumstances from low points. The details are to gory to go into as you must know. Apologize if you took it as attack it is not. Just stating something is not truthful about this scenario based on coroners testimonies of cases and hanging deaths.
I understand your misgivings but without the details, I've sadly seen examples of low point hanging. I've also seen a case of someone simply leaning into a loop. I guess nothing is impossible if the want is great enough. I'm guessing there would be examples of similar 'creativity' anywhere if we knew where to look.
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star_boi ago
i call bullshit on hanging with an exercise band- its stretchy for one thing- and none of these accounts mention that he was actually hanging when found.... am i missing that somewhere?? if you are choking yourself, let's just say- for sexual purposes, with a band while sitting, when you go out the band should loosen.... what man could hang in a motel bathroom and not touch the floor?? with a stretchy band??? this sounds super fishy to me- and why the hell didn't the security guard take it off when trying to revive him?? with that short of a time frame as stated, he should not have appeared obviously dead.
DerivaUK ago
Ive seen and attended hangings with exercise elastic and many, many more where people have hanged from a low point (i.e. A door handle) by simply buckling at the knees. It is not difficult to hang oneself if the want is there.
Jem777 ago
This is not possible. First responder here been to many scenes. For you to make those statements are not true. Anyone that has been to a successful suicide by hanging will never forget and also the many unsuccessful.
DerivaUK ago
First responder here too and no untruths uttered by me. I've seen many 'successful' hangings by various means. My services were not required at the 'unsuccessful'. This is the second time you've questioned my provenance. I don't understand why. It may be possible we did similar work at separate ends of the pond, and I would never choose to attack in this way. (I have forgotten none of them, btw. Not possible).
Jem777 ago
Not attacking you in anyway. Your end of the pond must be way more creative. It is impossible for the human body to hang to death in almost all circumstances from low points. The details are to gory to go into as you must know. Apologize if you took it as attack it is not. Just stating something is not truthful about this scenario based on coroners testimonies of cases and hanging deaths.
DerivaUK ago
I understand your misgivings but without the details, I've sadly seen examples of low point hanging. I've also seen a case of someone simply leaning into a loop. I guess nothing is impossible if the want is great enough. I'm guessing there would be examples of similar 'creativity' anywhere if we knew where to look.