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carmencita ago

I don't know about the "artwork" behind them, but that Golden Torso takes Center Stage. It says so much about him. It is a copy of the Dahmer Torso. Oh My God, what is it that people just seem to ignore. Wake Up Newbies. Please.

Are_we__sure ago

It's not true that this is a copy of the Dahmer Torso. I have no idea how people would even know about Dahmer's photographs. I certainly didn't before people tried to make this link. Bourgeois was quite clear about what her inspiration was, the origins of psychology. Her Arch of Hysteria work predates Dahmer. From a comment I made previously.

Louis Bourgeois .... did many hanging pieces and multiple Arch of Hysteria pieces.

BTW, it's been proven (by me) that the Arch of Hysteria that Tony Podesta owns has nothing to do with Jeffrey Dahmer. She conceived of her first Arch of Hysteria in 1989 two years before Dahmer was arrested. That pose was inspired by a French neurologist who studied hysteria. here's her first sketch of the first Arch. https://www.moma.org/collection_lb/browse_results.php?object_id=70922

And heres the image that inspired her. It's is from 1824 and depicts, Opisthotonus , a painful spasming of the muscles that victims of tetanus and hysterics get https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdWVo4fWAAEMM_4.jpg

Charcot the neurologist who Bourgeois has cited has her inspiration (and who was a teacher of Freud) talked about the arc de cercle that hysterical patients and epileptics sometimes suffered. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Krzysztof_Owczarek/publication/221926258/figure/fig6/AS:305190860279813@1449774579686/Fig-6-The-circular-arc-arc-de-cercle-Paul-Richer-Etudes-cliniques-sur.png

Commoner ago

I don't see that it matters. It is obviously depiction of a human being in pain! fun, huh?

Are_we__sure ago

I do not see that at all in the Arch of Hysteria that Podesta owns. I see lightness. I see grace. I see an escape from the usual confines of the body. (My back is killing me today.)

It matters as an example of how poor pizzagate "research" is and how slanted it is. That this became a "fact" is just silly. Louise Bourgeois is well known artist, never in her career was she paired with Dahmer. All of a sudden, in 2016 she is directly inspired by him? How did this become a talking point, a fact? It must have come from somehow who is way more familiar with Jeffery Dahmer than Louise Bourgeois. The images of his victims are not well known at all, except among fans of serial killers. It's doubtful that image was even in circulation at the time she created the second sculpture. The first sighting of it that anyone can find is in a forensic textbook on homicide.

Bourgeois is an artist who is well covered. It's super simple to do a search and see what critics said about this piece. When you do that, you find out she talked at length about where her inspiration came from. (Among other things, it's her feminist statement on hysteria.)

The only way you could make this initial connection is if you didn't care what the truth was. This is not an "innocent" mistake. It's part of a calculated effort to use art as weapon against podesta and through podesta to clinton.

Also you can make great art out of horrible events. See any painting of Saint Sebastian or the Crucifixion of Christ.

mooteensy ago

Exactly. How do people justify this sick shit?