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ThePuppetShow ago

Good write up, but I don't think I agree with the title. MS started in LA in the 80's and grew to a massavie gang under Clinton & Bush. Not saying that Obama didn't help them, but to claim they were homegrown by Obama isn't the whole story.

quantokitty ago

Then you give me a plausible reason for nothing being done to stop them and for Pelosi to describe them "as Baby Jesus" when the threat was there.

ThePuppetShow ago

They are another globalist tool for destabilization. I'm only saying that Obama isn't solely responsible for their growth, they were huge when he got in office.

quantokitty ago

Not in America, they weren't ... and that's the point.

I posted the articles to show their progression in the U.S. Note how they went from "the new kid on the block" to the elephant in the room.

It kills me that people laud Obama when he's the scum of the earth.

ThePuppetShow ago

Really?

A 2008 FBI threat assessment put the size of MS-13 between 6,000 and 10,000 members in the US, making it one of the largest criminal enterprises in the country.

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2008/january/ms13_011408

Edit: I dispise Obama BTW

quantokitty ago

You're proving my point. They knew about the threat and did nothing.

Look, you know it's bad. Here's a link of CNN DISMISSING THE THREAT OF MS-13!!! I can't believe CNN ... I can't

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/trump-ms-13-literally-taken-over/index.html

It's a very bipolar article. They're criticizing Trump and insisting thta MS-12 is HOME GROWN. Unfortunately, it is!

ThePuppetShow ago

I just want to clear things up here, we're obviously having a miscommunication. I completly agree with you that Obama made things worse. My only point is he didn't start it and it was already a huge problem when he got into office.

quantokitty ago

We are having a miscommunication. The video of Pelosi highlights the administration's position on this. If anyone thinks that Pelosi is not going to repeat the party narrative and do as told, well, they've got to be out of their minds. Look at the idiocy she's spouting. And the point is that they could have been crushed. When they first arrived in CA, they were the least in terms of numbers. So what happened to propel them up the ranks? Why are they in Petworth? That's what this post is ... a follow-up to someone saying that the MS-13 s running brothels there. Obama and the rest of his goddamn party have made things infinitely worse by doing nothing to top the flow of "Baby Jesuses" across the border. If I'm understanding you, if a president takes office, and he inherits a problem, it's not really his fault? Yes, it is his fault for not doing anything. If you don't agree with that, then you don't. But I ain't changing my mind. There were clearly things that he could have done, and instead, he did nothing but whine about PC correctness, apologize for the U.S.,, and allow the flow of these gang members across our borders.

ThePuppetShow ago

If I'm understanding you, if a president takes office, and he inherits a problem, it's not really his fault?

No.. Not at all saying that. He should have dealt with it, instead he continued the globalist policy and made it worse. I have no problem with the content of your post, it was the title I disagreed with because it makes Obama sound solely responsible and that's easy to dismiss.

quantokitty ago

Let me put it this way: he was solely responsible for it for eight years.

Better?

ThePuppetShow ago

Yep.