Not really though. I've known Jews in my life, and haven't caught a hint of global domination ambitions from them. So it's not very self-evident to me. Do you think it's all of them, and that the whole conspiracy is Jewish, or no?
I see a lot of people here who dismiss literally every Jew as a disinfo agent or whatever the fuck, and it's hard to take that shit seriously, to be honest.
I'm just trying to get acquainted. I see the word "Jew" get thrown around by you guys as if it's all the proof you need for bad intentions, and it gets confusing. I feel like there should be something more specific to describe it. Like how "Islamist" or "Jihadist" describes certain demographics within Islam.
You're white under age 95 I assume and thus have no group solidarity because Jewish media has taught us whites are perennial oppressors but EVERYONE ELSE IS ENCOURAGED TO LOBBY FOR THEIR ETHNIC GROUPS POLITICAL INTERESTS WHICH IS NECESSARILY AT WHITES EXPENSE DUE TO NUMBERS, isn't that revealing? ISRAEL is a foreign state and Jews anywhere in the world can go there for safe haven.
"In the first few pages of Jewish Supremacism, Duke quotes Dr. Richard Steinlight, a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish organization in the United States. Here is the quotation taken from a 2001 magazine article written by Dr. Steinlight:- ‘I’ll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative years… I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colors, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language… and was taught the superiority of my people to the ‘Gentiles’ who oppressed us. ‘We were taught to view non-Jews as… people less sensitive, intelligent and moral than ourselves.’"
I actually appreciate the explanation. I've been avoiding this rabbit hole so far.
I think Islamists have accomplished similar infiltration. (i.e. people like Huma Abedin and Linda Sarsour, and organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, Muslim World League, the World Assembly of Muslim Youth). And "Antisemitism" accusations seem to be about as useful as "Islamophobia" (a word created by the Muslim Brotherhood) for stifling discourse and enforcing the double standard you mentioned regarding self-interest for ethnic groups.
If I ever assumed I knew about it, I'd gladly take it back. I'm trying to be open about my naiveté on this topic. I see you guys around here, and generally just ignore your Jew comments. Call me prejudiced. Fine. I'd like to understand what you think anyway.
Based upon posts and convos via PM, I think it's fair to say that "we" (at least some of us) come at this from different angles.
I have studied this stuff for years. My research is more in medicine (not clinical research), anthropology, and genealogy because of my background. I also spent years studying secret societies, with an emphasis on Freemasonry (many family members are Masons). Others have focused more on the religion of Judaism, which -- because of its transitory nature -- I believe is tangential and secondary or even tertiary. BLOODlines/genes/DNA never change; religions can be converted to.
I know that at least some of us disagree on certain specifics. So it's doubtful you will get a "blanket" answer from any one poster that all of us will concur with.
It's hard to find anybody here who agrees on much with anybody else about the structure of the Deep State. But you all roughly share a common ground that others don't. (I haven't forgotten that you were some of the earliest and strongest George Webb skeptics). I'm curious about your basic terms of agreement.
And more broadly speaking, I feel real concern when the rumor mill starts circling about false flag attacks by supposed "Anti-Semites," and we've already got all these old characters posting heated comments about Jews. So in case we have to decide what's worth defending (meaning comments like yours get publicized), clearing the air can only be a good thing.
My comments will NOT get publicized. I have never, ever advocated violence here, and I would appreciate it if you would cease and desist lumping me in with those posters.
As for the "deep state," that is a term that suddenly got heat after the election. Personally, I suspect it was dropped into the vernacular by CIA officers So, I don't use it. It's a bullshit, catch-all, garbage-can term that never IDs anyone specifically. Which is the intent, I believe -- obfuscation. For purposes of this discussion, "deep state" does not represent the breadth and depth of the J problem since it only relates to the alphabet agencies subset, and we already know that the CIA is 86% Jewish (1968 stat from Eustace Mullins, no doubt higher now).
This is a HUGE multifaceted subject, which is why folks are so confused about it. The Js have done this intentionally. The first order of any discussion is to define terms. What is a Jew? The answer is NOT what most people think. Again, it is about bloodlines, not religion. People who have heard otherwise their entire lives and believe that crap are resistant to embrace the "new" (correct) definition.
The second hurdle is religion. Many are brainwashed with religious beliefs. Christians are the worst since their religion was grafted onto Judaism, hence "Judaeo-Christianity." They will perform every type of mental gymnastics imaginable to defend Jews. The Christians who are aware quote the bible -- of course. The bible tells them they are "not really Jews," which is a lie. There are millions of Jews pretending not to be, and they far outnuimber those who are not Jews and pretending to be. If Jews are so "persecuted," why in hell would anyone PRETEND to be one? That makes no sense.
If you have specific questions I will answer them.
They'll bombard you with all sorts of "facts" and "historical" references, delivered in a circuitous argument which can never be proved or disproved as it is based on crap written on scrolls and sandstone thousands of years ago.
Seriously, are you going to put faith in someone who cites "68 percent of the CIA is Jewish", and then uses a known white supremacist and eugenicist who died in 1968 as a reliable source?
Cite bullshit once and you're a bullshitter for life (@horsefucker)/
Not implying that you did. I'm just saying - take some of the shill rhetoric with a 5 lb grain of salt. Their key is to embed a small amount of truth within a much larger statement, drilling down on the nugget of truth, and then using that truth to apply to the rest of their statement. Watch closely and you will see what I am referring to.
I see these people everywhere on Voat and the chans, so I don't think all of them could be shills. I just think it'd be a good idea to learn the thoughts behind their opinions if I'm gonna keep interacting with them.
I agree with you wholly. You can tell the shills from the believers. I respect their right to their position, but not when it is being used to hijack Pizzagate. I will admit there is a hugely disproportionate amount of Jews in executive positions in entertainment. But if you look at the roots of modern entertainment, much of it goes back to vaudeville, which originated in the Jewish areas of New York. You can argue the evil Jewish Pedo empire, or sometimes you can explain things away with a bit of common sense and facts.
Blaming the world's problems on Jews, or any other minority is just stupid. So far, the only commonality I see is that the vast majority of the PedoState players are white. There may be a higher rate of occurrence of Jewish players not because of a world plot, but because as a "group", they are better educated than almost all other minority groups. Better educated people tend to rise to higher stations in life.
I hear that. Like I said to someone else, throwing the word "Jew" around flippantly as a way of casting doubt on people doesn't do much to convince me that the Jew-conspiracy angle is all that sharp.
As for the "hijacking" of Pizzagate you mentioned, that's been on my mind. Most of the posts I see about Jews seem more intended to provoke people than to deliver information. And I'm certain that these are the exact types of comments a fake news organization would look for if they wanted to discredit us.
Edit: I'm still curious though. I think there could be something to the Zionism stuff, for sure, even if it's a smaller part than people make it out to be.
I kniow as many conservative Jews as I do left-leaning Jews. SOme of them are rabid, foaming at the mouth left (which I do not understand). Some are pretty damn hard right.
Not one acts in a way as if they were part of some great Zionist plot. Sure, the lefty ones spew the same BS as all of the rest of the lefties - anti-gun, pro-Palestine, etc. etc. Not really Jews in my opinion. And the ones on the right can spout party line, point for point.
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HolyMoly0 ago
Not really though. I've known Jews in my life, and haven't caught a hint of global domination ambitions from them. So it's not very self-evident to me. Do you think it's all of them, and that the whole conspiracy is Jewish, or no?
DonKeyhote ago
What kind of conspiracy demands 100% OF THEIR GROUP, MILLIONS OF INDIVIDUALS, BE INVOLVED YOU STUPID FUCKING TWAT
HolyMoly0 ago
Lol. Noted.
DonKeyhote ago
seriously did you attend special classes where the kids wore helmets? What kind of evidentiary standard requires MILLIONS OF COMPLICIT ACTORS
HolyMoly0 ago
See my other reply here:
I'm just trying to get acquainted. I see the word "Jew" get thrown around by you guys as if it's all the proof you need for bad intentions, and it gets confusing. I feel like there should be something more specific to describe it. Like how "Islamist" or "Jihadist" describes certain demographics within Islam.
DonKeyhote ago
You're white under age 95 I assume and thus have no group solidarity because Jewish media has taught us whites are perennial oppressors but EVERYONE ELSE IS ENCOURAGED TO LOBBY FOR THEIR ETHNIC GROUPS POLITICAL INTERESTS WHICH IS NECESSARILY AT WHITES EXPENSE DUE TO NUMBERS, isn't that revealing? ISRAEL is a foreign state and Jews anywhere in the world can go there for safe haven.
"In the first few pages of Jewish Supremacism, Duke quotes Dr. Richard Steinlight, a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish organization in the United States. Here is the quotation taken from a 2001 magazine article written by Dr. Steinlight:- ‘I’ll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative years… I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colors, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language… and was taught the superiority of my people to the ‘Gentiles’ who oppressed us. ‘We were taught to view non-Jews as… people less sensitive, intelligent and moral than ourselves.’"
All Jews of any standing are viewed as potential mossads assets. This typical businessman was asked to photograph Arab ports (US allies) and he was rewarded for never telling his wife and kids. https://d3myrwj42s63no.cloudfront.net/180/155/972/178/2/1559721782.jpg
The worst traitor spies have been Jews https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard
LET ME KNOW WHEN MUSLIMS HAVE ANY SORT OF POWER OR DO ANYTHING REMOTELY SIMILAR
HolyMoly0 ago
I actually appreciate the explanation. I've been avoiding this rabbit hole so far.
I think Islamists have accomplished similar infiltration. (i.e. people like Huma Abedin and Linda Sarsour, and organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, Muslim World League, the World Assembly of Muslim Youth). And "Antisemitism" accusations seem to be about as useful as "Islamophobia" (a word created by the Muslim Brotherhood) for stifling discourse and enforcing the double standard you mentioned regarding self-interest for ethnic groups.
equineluvr ago
"I actually appreciate the explanation. I've been avoiding this rabbit hole so far."
So, you admit you know nothing about the topic?
Then WHY have you been commenting upon it as though you do?
That is the DEFINITION of a FOOL.
HolyMoly0 ago
If I ever assumed I knew about it, I'd gladly take it back. I'm trying to be open about my naiveté on this topic. I see you guys around here, and generally just ignore your Jew comments. Call me prejudiced. Fine. I'd like to understand what you think anyway.
equineluvr ago
Thank you.
Based upon posts and convos via PM, I think it's fair to say that "we" (at least some of us) come at this from different angles.
I have studied this stuff for years. My research is more in medicine (not clinical research), anthropology, and genealogy because of my background. I also spent years studying secret societies, with an emphasis on Freemasonry (many family members are Masons). Others have focused more on the religion of Judaism, which -- because of its transitory nature -- I believe is tangential and secondary or even tertiary. BLOODlines/genes/DNA never change; religions can be converted to.
I know that at least some of us disagree on certain specifics. So it's doubtful you will get a "blanket" answer from any one poster that all of us will concur with.
HolyMoly0 ago
It's hard to find anybody here who agrees on much with anybody else about the structure of the Deep State. But you all roughly share a common ground that others don't. (I haven't forgotten that you were some of the earliest and strongest George Webb skeptics). I'm curious about your basic terms of agreement.
And more broadly speaking, I feel real concern when the rumor mill starts circling about false flag attacks by supposed "Anti-Semites," and we've already got all these old characters posting heated comments about Jews. So in case we have to decide what's worth defending (meaning comments like yours get publicized), clearing the air can only be a good thing.
equineluvr ago
My comments will NOT get publicized. I have never, ever advocated violence here, and I would appreciate it if you would cease and desist lumping me in with those posters.
As for the "deep state," that is a term that suddenly got heat after the election. Personally, I suspect it was dropped into the vernacular by CIA officers So, I don't use it. It's a bullshit, catch-all, garbage-can term that never IDs anyone specifically. Which is the intent, I believe -- obfuscation. For purposes of this discussion, "deep state" does not represent the breadth and depth of the J problem since it only relates to the alphabet agencies subset, and we already know that the CIA is 86% Jewish (1968 stat from Eustace Mullins, no doubt higher now).
This is a HUGE multifaceted subject, which is why folks are so confused about it. The Js have done this intentionally. The first order of any discussion is to define terms. What is a Jew? The answer is NOT what most people think. Again, it is about bloodlines, not religion. People who have heard otherwise their entire lives and believe that crap are resistant to embrace the "new" (correct) definition.
The second hurdle is religion. Many are brainwashed with religious beliefs. Christians are the worst since their religion was grafted onto Judaism, hence "Judaeo-Christianity." They will perform every type of mental gymnastics imaginable to defend Jews. The Christians who are aware quote the bible -- of course. The bible tells them they are "not really Jews," which is a lie. There are millions of Jews pretending not to be, and they far outnuimber those who are not Jews and pretending to be. If Jews are so "persecuted," why in hell would anyone PRETEND to be one? That makes no sense.
If you have specific questions I will answer them.
HolyMoly0 ago
Sorry, didn't mean to lump you in. I apologize. I never thought you were violent.
These questions should be sufficient, whenever you can get to them...
Is there a term you prefer to Deep State?
You say it's more about bloodlines than religion. Are we talking Royal families? American government families?
Someone else posted this. In your mind, is Yossi Gurvitz accurately depicting things?
Do you draw a distinction between Jews and Zionists?
Are there any Jews you trust?
You said, "why in hell would anyone pretend to be" a Jew? What are you referencing?
Blacksmith21 ago
I see you've met Goebbels III aka Horsefucker.
The fact that Horsefucker cites a known eugenicist and white supremacist as "fact" says it all right there.
As I've said before - "68 percent of the CIA is Jewish" - Bullshit. You cannot quantify anything like that, so to say so is intellectually dishonest.
Horsefucker is trying to insert a mythical "Jewish plot" so as to discredit the entire investigation.
HolyMoly0 ago
Just trying to understand the thought process.
Blacksmith21 ago
They'll bombard you with all sorts of "facts" and "historical" references, delivered in a circuitous argument which can never be proved or disproved as it is based on crap written on scrolls and sandstone thousands of years ago.
Seriously, are you going to put faith in someone who cites "68 percent of the CIA is Jewish", and then uses a known white supremacist and eugenicist who died in 1968 as a reliable source?
Cite bullshit once and you're a bullshitter for life (@horsefucker)/
HolyMoly0 ago
When did I put faith in anything?
Blacksmith21 ago
Not implying that you did. I'm just saying - take some of the shill rhetoric with a 5 lb grain of salt. Their key is to embed a small amount of truth within a much larger statement, drilling down on the nugget of truth, and then using that truth to apply to the rest of their statement. Watch closely and you will see what I am referring to.
HolyMoly0 ago
I see these people everywhere on Voat and the chans, so I don't think all of them could be shills. I just think it'd be a good idea to learn the thoughts behind their opinions if I'm gonna keep interacting with them.
Blacksmith21 ago
I agree with you wholly. You can tell the shills from the believers. I respect their right to their position, but not when it is being used to hijack Pizzagate. I will admit there is a hugely disproportionate amount of Jews in executive positions in entertainment. But if you look at the roots of modern entertainment, much of it goes back to vaudeville, which originated in the Jewish areas of New York. You can argue the evil Jewish Pedo empire, or sometimes you can explain things away with a bit of common sense and facts.
Blaming the world's problems on Jews, or any other minority is just stupid. So far, the only commonality I see is that the vast majority of the PedoState players are white. There may be a higher rate of occurrence of Jewish players not because of a world plot, but because as a "group", they are better educated than almost all other minority groups. Better educated people tend to rise to higher stations in life.
HolyMoly0 ago
I hear that. Like I said to someone else, throwing the word "Jew" around flippantly as a way of casting doubt on people doesn't do much to convince me that the Jew-conspiracy angle is all that sharp.
As for the "hijacking" of Pizzagate you mentioned, that's been on my mind. Most of the posts I see about Jews seem more intended to provoke people than to deliver information. And I'm certain that these are the exact types of comments a fake news organization would look for if they wanted to discredit us.
Edit: I'm still curious though. I think there could be something to the Zionism stuff, for sure, even if it's a smaller part than people make it out to be.
Blacksmith21 ago
I kniow as many conservative Jews as I do left-leaning Jews. SOme of them are rabid, foaming at the mouth left (which I do not understand). Some are pretty damn hard right.
Not one acts in a way as if they were part of some great Zionist plot. Sure, the lefty ones spew the same BS as all of the rest of the lefties - anti-gun, pro-Palestine, etc. etc. Not really Jews in my opinion. And the ones on the right can spout party line, point for point.
HolyMoly0 ago
Well that goes without saying, as far as I'm concerned.