Bernie and Jane Sanders are under criminal investigation for a deal which resulted in a 10 million property deal (https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/05/17/burlington-college-campus-purchase-still-coming-back-haunt-jane-sanders)). Jane was in charge of Burlington College. She lied on loan documents to obtain a loan and then used that loan to buy property. The property was bought from the Catholic Church in Vermont and this Church just so happens to be in debt for a sexual abuse scandal.
I have done limited research on this and results on what happened hasn't been easy for me to find. But get this. One of the head priests in this Church was a Kenneth Angell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Angell)). This is from his wikipedia page, 'In 1989 he promised to "take care of it" when a Providence priest was accused of misconduct with boys while working at a Haitian orphanage'.
WTF is that, how is this topic of Haitian orphanages popping up in a Bernie Sanders criminal investigation about loans.
To sum up what happened. The Sanders helped to steal 10 million dollars and then funneled it off to a Church which has a proven record of sexual abuse of children and sexual abuse of children in Haiti.
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syntaxaxe ago
You may be Jewish, and like most Jews, you may not be part of some big secret conspiracy.
But, let's not pretend there isn't Zionist and Talmudic supremacist groups out there that are holding the interests of Israel and Jews up above everyone else, even to the point of conspiring to damage other nations and peoples in their own interests. This is true even if you're offended by it and do not appreciate it. Sure, it's ridiculous to act like all Jews are in on this. But it's also not particularly inaccurate to call it the Jewish conspiracy, since it seems to center around a number of pro-Jewish groups and Jewish individuals, for the sake of advancing the power and resources of Jewish peoples, and denigrating non-Jewish peoples.
Votescam ago
Then call it a Zionist or Talmudic conspiracy.
As you, yourself say ...** "Sure, it's ridiculous to act like all Jews are in on this."**
syntaxaxe ago
Yes, that is what I said, and I've never talked to anyone who says that all Jews are in on this.
Since it is obvious that not all Jews are in on this, I'm not going to call it the more specific "Zionist, Talmudic-fundimentalist, pro-Ashkenazi, anti-Goyim, Jewish-supremacist, Israeli hegemony tactics by a number of Jewish financiers and media moguls and politicians, enabled by traditional Hebrew cultural enclaves and influence within others' host nations" Conspiracy, even though that's what it is and you might feel more comfortable with a more detailed label.
In the end, it is a set of tactics pushed by people who all happen to be Jewish, against people and cultures which aren't Jewish, for the purpose of enriching and empowering Jews and the Jewish nation at non-Jews expense. It is not inaccurate to call it a Jewish conspiracy, and everyone knows what is meant by that. We're not talking about you, Moshe.
Votescam ago
The repetitive comments here of hate speech against Jews certainly seems like an organized campaign here -- and it is certainly overall anti-Jewish.
It isn't necessarily obvious that this hate speech isn't directed at all Jews because it certainly seems to be the case. When you are accusing "Zionists" then say so. If you're debating against the "Talmud" and its religious teachings, then say so, specifically. These are all different issues -- just as the political and foreign policy of Israel's leaders is different, especially in regard to Palestinians/Gaza.
It would be quite sad if anyone in other countries actually thought that the things that Trump says are supported by all of us here. Or if anyone thought that Americans actually support the wars of aggression that our government has been guilty of.
You will often see that I am criticizing the Catholic Church, but this is the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, not its members. Sometimes I will actually call out the members for not standing against the anti-homosexual teachings of the RCC, but I try to make clear who I am criticizing.
Imo, when you are a bit more specific it will aid debate with others.
We are surrounded by conspiracy -- how many of our Founders were Jews? Yet, we had immediate betrayal of the nation in the Constitution which actually created an Elite patriarchy and re-distributed the wealth of the nation to them.
No matter how we add up the millions Stalin killed, or the millions that Hitler killed ... we know that the "invaders" here killed ever more ... in complete genocide of 112 million native people here and in death and oppression of the Africans brought here to increase the wealth of Elites here in the system of Slavery. Again, our Founders protected and saved that system of Slavery for Elites.
Everything that the CIA has done involves conspiracy -- and we are still suffering the consequences of those secret actions today.
The Catholic Church had armies which ran the Crusades and the Inquisition ... and issued Papal Edicts which instructed that the natives here and Africans here ... should be "enslaved or killed." How vast was that conspiracy?
syntaxaxe ago
No matter your problems with the Patriarchy, Hate Speech, and the horrible invaders here that brought all their diseases and advanced weapons to conquer these lands (and while you're muddying the issue here, I may as well preemt your next post by saying that this applies to your feelings about heternormativity and the cishet fatshaming social structures of power as well), it doesn't matter and I don't care.
I'm not going to specify the dozen or so related issues that all fall under the umbrella of some Jews, doing what they do specifically for Jews, against the nations of non-Jews, enabled by the greater community of Jewish culture in those host nations, in such a way that I must avoid saying "Jew". I'm not bothered if it hurts your feelings. We all know what is being spoken about in regards to the Jewish conspiracy. If that doesn't apply to you, then we're not talking about you, Chaim.
Votescam ago
Certainly looks like you care -- at least a whole paragraph worth. :)
Also seems that you would like to cheer for patriarchy and hate speech and those "horrible invaders" ... maybe because you enjoy the results of them; like Global Warming and holocausts, genocide -- and US Empire?
But, back to your real purpose here which seems to be anti-Jewish comments.
However, let me make clear that I certainly do not support the right wing control of Israel which has long suppressed the desire of the people there for peace -- and given at least two attempts at it, both have ended in assassinations to end them.
Nor AIPAC and its efforts to own our politicians here.