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LA_Trump ago

Bernie Sanders IS a pedophile. That's why he's stayed silent on Seth Rich.

Votescam ago

Where is your evidence for this?

LA_Trump ago

He's never made mention of the unsolved murder of Seth Rich, his supporter. Now, he's under investigation by the FBI for bank fraud / laundering from a Catholic Church with ties to sexual abuse of Haitian orphans. He introduced human trafficking laws that gave money to NGOs signed by Bill Clinton before he left office. He's friends with Allen Ginsberg. He wrote fantasy fiction about underage gang rape.

Votescam ago

What you're saying is complete exaggeration as there is no evidence that Bernie Sanders has ever sexually abused a child.

Bernie Sanders has attacked the banking industry in his campaigns so it is not unusual that there would be a return attack, especially by pedophiles like Hillary, Podesta and their Media Matters organization which does it dirty work for it -- Media Matters.

How many others voted for those same human trafficking laws which gave money to NGO's? And how many of those members of the Senate/Congress are you accusing of sexually abusing children?

And this is McCarthy-Era thinking ...

He's friends with Allen Ginsberg>

guilt by association ... with no actual evidence....

Sadly, today, we have to look at suspicion with every individual who rises to political power -- but that means ALL of them and it also means having at least some actual evidence that the person has done something other than having done business with the Catholic Church who are the actual abusers of children ....

Much like the pedophiles Hillary, Podesta, Alefantis and others, including their worker bee David Brock/Media Matters who does their dirty work for them.

LA_Trump ago

Good points, you're right.

Votescam ago

Hi LA --

Well, it's just my personal opinion but we are all learning about all of this together and there is a lot to learn.

From what I see we have CIA/Congress/government and our military involved in MKULTRA and child trafficking over decades ... and we have to keep open minds about how many this operation may have touched.

I do recall recently reading something about how these things proceeded on a more casual basis and an invitation -- but you may be killed if you didn't participate and tried to walk out after having seen it.

There were a lot of threads up here about "The Farm" and it turns out that Allen Dulles actually would regularly go to a place he called "The Farm" either on CIA property or very near it (as I recall) and it's a place where the CIA used to train pedophiles. I have to look for that link, but I believe it is also in "The Devil's Disciple" which I am still reading right now -- with many interruptions. But Dulles used to continue to go there to work even after JFK fired him.

I also recall that for a very long time those who supported Clinton rejected notions that he was a sexual assaulter of women, or that he and Hillary were involved in murders.

:)

LA_Trump ago

I think one of the hardest parts when this all comes into the mainstream is to determine what happens to the adult victims? If a politician was forced to commit horrible atrocities against their will, but then also helped early on to expose it, despite being blackmailed, what happens to them?

Votescam ago

You should take a look at MKULTRA/Monarch -- though Richard Helms had the Monarch records destroyed when he retired from the CIA - but do think that some of the records still exist.

Difficult to answer your question about any adult victim....while there is an amazing amount of info that survivors have given us there is still a lot unknown, I imagine.

Children seem to be killed fairly quickly because their bodies are so damaged. Ironically, we also see this same kind of situation with women appearing in porn because the sexual violence is so brutal that their bodies are too damaged to go on past two or three months.

If you're a politician who is of some value to them over long term I doubt that they let you leave alive.

I was also thinking today about how pedophiles are often murdered by other prisoners and I doubt any of us would spill any tears over that .... but it might also be a case where those people might have supplied some names of higher up's involved in organized human trafficking.