What do people know about Hatch and this guy Tom Ballard? I have read on here before about Utah being involved in a lot of the trafficking and also Mormons. This just does not sit right with me, but I don't know why. It kind of reminds me of John McCain and Ashton Kutcher and Thorne. It makes me feel queasy.
Exactly what I was going to say. Hatch is very right wing and an underwear-wearing Mormon.
It does make me wonder, as well, because this looks like a new "War" on trafficking which could
turn out to be just like the War on Cancer and the War on Drugs ... where the "cures" never come,
the problems are only enlarged and we get more of the Cancer and more of the Drug dealing.
Let's also remember that the US government got a lot of help in its genocide versus the native Americans from the
Mormon Church and Catholic Church who ran "Church schools" for the US government who kidnapped children of
natives in order to destroy their culture and families.
They were herded into these "Church schools" where they were forbidden to speak in their own language,
their braids cut and their clothing changed to Western European. They were beaten and murdered and
of course sexually abused. And it seems that is still going on in both of those churches.
It also concerns me because we see over and again that the heads of organizations are usually corrupt
and there to keep cover ups going.
There is much to come that we will not like. The exposure of the Secret Societies is one. It goes far beyond Soros and his Society. I am no longer believing that they are just sick. They are doing this as you say for a higher purpose. To control us and a certain outcome. Their agenda. That is what I don't like. But we now are becoming aware and that is a good thing.
Terriffic insight. This is not just about perversion and blind evil, its about warring with nature and the great Creator on every level including changing the nature and sex of people.
They do this to these kids to create "walkins'. Playing God. But everything opposite because they feel man and god rejects them for their nature and what they like to do.
They were doing it in the book of Genesis
Follow @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt We must believe what he tells us, for they are THAT evil. People will not want to believe it, but they are. They have been doing this for decades and decades.
Utah here. It is a very conservative state except for salt lake city which is centrist/liberal. The church is a cult and church leaders hold a lot of sway over those who voluntarily subject themselves to that unneccessary power hierarchy. Although the church zealotry and bubble has been dying pretty quickly since the internet became popular. I don't know about the highest levels of the church, or Orrin Hatch (don't trust anyone in government that long), but most Utahns and mormons are generally sex-phobic in general, much less pedophilia. I went on tons of scouting events and what not and never saw anything sketchy. Most mormon utahns are good decent people, just really naieve and way too trusting. They lack the imagination to believe people are capable of truly evil shit. Making them perfect victims. Most of the degenerates in Utah are ex-mormons who swung the pendulum WAY too far the other way. Like when you tell kids marijuana is lethal, than they try it, see that you lied, and assume you lied about heroin and shit, and become H-junkies.
True ... all organized patriarchal religions are cults - yet people surrender their free will to church dictates.
Always amazes me and then they turn their children over to them for another brainwashing.
Yes, I do think the internet has speeded up an end to male-supremacist religions, but it's taken us...
what, 350 years?
(More like 2,000 years because these organized patriarchal religions were put in play through violence:
It was called: "Introducing the cross with the sword" -- and many nations suffered that experience and
saw their countries fall to the "cross."
Good that you've had no negative experience in the Mormon Church, whether physical abuse or sexual, but the Mormon "Church Schools" was the most notorious of the two and both were very physically and sexually abusing of the native children in their care.
Many Catholic children were never abused either, but certainly most were under physical threat in those schools.
It looks very much like the CIA was behind the Jones Town event/mass deaths.
And John Stockwell -- a very interesting ex-CIA agent who has been whistleblowing on them for decades now -- calls the CIA "Catholics In Action."
Keep in mind I am NOT saying that there is any basis to "Satanism" .....
"The Old World Religions were centered in Nature and preceded Judaism, Christianity and Islam by thousands of years.
It was demonized and the old Gods and Goddesses were then co-opted as "Saints" or dehumanized, as well.
"But, of course, there is no devil in the Old Religions and witches certainly do not worship him.
He belongs strictly to the religions of the Bible. He's their demon, their personification of evil,
their shadow, and, it is time for members of the biblical faith to stop projecting their fears onto
others and simply deal with their own darkness."
"Confronting Anti-Semitism" by James Carroll
There's no devil, no satan, no demons in the Old World Religions -
It's strictly the invention of male-supremacist religion which required a "god" to
to anoint them as "superior" and devils, satan and demons to scare the hell out
of those they forced into their religions -- entire nations, actually.
Nor is there a Hell.
That does not mean either that these people do not carry out the violence they
then attribute to these demons.
The evil is within themselves.
"No gods above, no gods below ...
Harm none, do what you will."
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carmencita ago
What do people know about Hatch and this guy Tom Ballard? I have read on here before about Utah being involved in a lot of the trafficking and also Mormons. This just does not sit right with me, but I don't know why. It kind of reminds me of John McCain and Ashton Kutcher and Thorne. It makes me feel queasy.
Votescam ago
Exactly what I was going to say. Hatch is very right wing and an underwear-wearing Mormon.
It does make me wonder, as well, because this looks like a new "War" on trafficking which could turn out to be just like the War on Cancer and the War on Drugs ... where the "cures" never come, the problems are only enlarged and we get more of the Cancer and more of the Drug dealing.
Let's also remember that the US government got a lot of help in its genocide versus the native Americans from the Mormon Church and Catholic Church who ran "Church schools" for the US government who kidnapped children of natives in order to destroy their culture and families.
They were herded into these "Church schools" where they were forbidden to speak in their own language, their braids cut and their clothing changed to Western European. They were beaten and murdered and of course sexually abused. And it seems that is still going on in both of those churches.
It also concerns me because we see over and again that the heads of organizations are usually corrupt and there to keep cover ups going.
Don't like this at all....
carmencita ago
There is much to come that we will not like. The exposure of the Secret Societies is one. It goes far beyond Soros and his Society. I am no longer believing that they are just sick. They are doing this as you say for a higher purpose. To control us and a certain outcome. Their agenda. That is what I don't like. But we now are becoming aware and that is a good thing.
thomccc ago
Terriffic insight. This is not just about perversion and blind evil, its about warring with nature and the great Creator on every level including changing the nature and sex of people. They do this to these kids to create "walkins'. Playing God. But everything opposite because they feel man and god rejects them for their nature and what they like to do. They were doing it in the book of Genesis
carmencita ago
Follow @Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt We must believe what he tells us, for they are THAT evil. People will not want to believe it, but they are. They have been doing this for decades and decades.
Fatsack ago
Utah here. It is a very conservative state except for salt lake city which is centrist/liberal. The church is a cult and church leaders hold a lot of sway over those who voluntarily subject themselves to that unneccessary power hierarchy. Although the church zealotry and bubble has been dying pretty quickly since the internet became popular. I don't know about the highest levels of the church, or Orrin Hatch (don't trust anyone in government that long), but most Utahns and mormons are generally sex-phobic in general, much less pedophilia. I went on tons of scouting events and what not and never saw anything sketchy. Most mormon utahns are good decent people, just really naieve and way too trusting. They lack the imagination to believe people are capable of truly evil shit. Making them perfect victims. Most of the degenerates in Utah are ex-mormons who swung the pendulum WAY too far the other way. Like when you tell kids marijuana is lethal, than they try it, see that you lied, and assume you lied about heroin and shit, and become H-junkies.
Votescam ago
True ... all organized patriarchal religions are cults - yet people surrender their free will to church dictates. Always amazes me and then they turn their children over to them for another brainwashing.
Yes, I do think the internet has speeded up an end to male-supremacist religions, but it's taken us... what, 350 years?
(More like 2,000 years because these organized patriarchal religions were put in play through violence: It was called: "Introducing the cross with the sword" -- and many nations suffered that experience and saw their countries fall to the "cross."
Good that you've had no negative experience in the Mormon Church, whether physical abuse or sexual, but the Mormon "Church Schools" was the most notorious of the two and both were very physically and sexually abusing of the native children in their care.
Many Catholic children were never abused either, but certainly most were under physical threat in those schools.
It looks very much like the CIA was behind the Jones Town event/mass deaths.
And John Stockwell -- a very interesting ex-CIA agent who has been whistleblowing on them for decades now -- calls the CIA "Catholics In Action."
Keep in mind I am NOT saying that there is any basis to "Satanism" .....
"The Old World Religions were centered in Nature and preceded Judaism, Christianity and Islam by thousands of years. It was demonized and the old Gods and Goddesses were then co-opted as "Saints" or dehumanized, as well.
"But, of course, there is no devil in the Old Religions and witches certainly do not worship him. He belongs strictly to the religions of the Bible. He's their demon, their personification of evil, their shadow, and, it is time for members of the biblical faith to stop projecting their fears onto others and simply deal with their own darkness." "Confronting Anti-Semitism" by James Carroll
There's no devil, no satan, no demons in the Old World Religions - It's strictly the invention of male-supremacist religion which required a "god" to to anoint them as "superior" and devils, satan and demons to scare the hell out of those they forced into their religions -- entire nations, actually. Nor is there a Hell. That does not mean either that these people do not carry out the violence they then attribute to these demons. The evil is within themselves.
"No gods above, no gods below ... Harm none, do what you will."
:)